Question about Ronald Leary and possible franchise tag

[Nightman]

Green has to get on the field before he can beat out anyone.


I also think the value of continuity is being overlooked. They've got one of the top two/three lines in the league and they need to keep it intact.

I remember a time when Jerry thought he could just plug in any 'ol coach and be successful. Watch the Aikman special on ESPN to see how that worked out.

If you need more evidence, ask Mavericks fans what they learned when Cuban let center Tyson Chandler go in free agency after they won the championship.

I would rather have LCollins, CGreen and Chandler Jones or JPP than Leary, Free and Mayowa

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not being mean but it is a terrible idea

13.7m for one year and a 13.7m cap hit is WAAAAAYY too much for a guy who got beat out by Collins to start the year

IF they did want to keep him 13.7m could cover 2+ years worth of guaranteed money

But Leary is gone.....he is being overvalued compared to what Collins brings.....5/35m is probably what he gets as a FA

Next year I see CGreen beating out Free for RT who takes a huge paycut to come back as Swing OT and Collins thrives at LG.......they draft an OG/C and keep spare parts like Looney and Cleary around

Leary was never in position to compete.

That being said we cannot afford to pay 4 OL 8 figures.

 

[Nightman]

Leary was never in position to compete.

That being said we cannot afford to pay 4 OL 8 figures.

He didn't 'compete' last year either

 

[dogunwo]

*IF* at the end of the year, the Cowboys staff grade out Leary really high, the smart play might be to try to resign Leary, and if they do, then trade Collins for a really good draft pick. *IF* they do not grade Leary high enough or they feel Collins is around or above Leary's level, then the smart play would be to not resign Leary and just go with Collins as the future.

The problem with Leary is that he will benefit from being part of the Cowboys offensive line. Any player from the Cowboys OL would likely be heavily valued in free agency, maybe even over-valued due to supply-and-demand of good OL players. Parnell benefited from this. It will probably come down to how bad Leary wants the money versus how much he likes being part of one of the best, if not the best, OL in the NFL. Given he was benched, not for his play, but because they though another player *could* be better than him, and he wasn't happy about it, I suspect he will take the money and go elsewhere.

That said, I really like Leary though and wish we could keep him, but I won't blame him if he does not return.

Especially if we win the Superbowl, he would not have to chase a ring and can cash out.

 

[Bullflop]

I realize that there's plenty of opinions here that Collins should be stationed at RT but the staff is strongly convinced that he's best suited for LG. I've heard this several times from Broaddus and others as well. I do know he was tested at RT early-on in TC and evidently, they concluded that he was far more ideally suited to his current LG spot.

 

[Setackin]

I'd rather franchise Claiborne. Cowboys are pretty deep on the oline and with there history I trust them drafting an oline if needed. CB on the other hand we are not deep and the Cowboys are crap at drafting them.

 

[Silver Surfer]

I would rather have LCollins, CGreen and Chandler Jones or JPP than Leary, Free and Mayowa

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

You'll be replacing 40% of your best unit and gambling that 1) the offensive line play will remain at a high enough level to be effective, 2) Jones or JPP can be signed for the difference and 3) they'll make a significant enough contribution to the defense to make a noticeable improvement.

The logic I'm using is the same one many people (Jerry and several former coaches/analysts included) are using when talking about starting Dak vs Tony.

It goes something like this: "Winning consistently in the NFL is incredibly difficult, so don't change what's working"

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

*IF* at the end of the year, the Cowboys staff grade out Leary really high, the smart play might be to try to resign Leary, and if they do, then trade Collins for a really good draft pick. *IF* they do not grade Leary high enough or they feel Collins is around or above Leary's level, then the smart play would be to not resign Leary and just go with Collins as the future.

The problem with Leary is that he will benefit from being part of the Cowboys offensive line. Any player from the Cowboys OL would likely be heavily valued in free agency, maybe even over-valued due to supply-and-demand of good OL players. Parnell benefited from this. It will probably come down to how bad Leary wants the money versus how much he likes being part of one of the best, if not the best, OL in the NFL. Given he was benched, not for his play, but because they though another player *could* be better than him, and he wasn't happy about it, I suspect he will take the money and go elsewhere.

That said, I really like Leary though and wish we could keep him, but I won't blame him if he does not return.

I wonder what the status of his degenrative knee is? Everyone seemed to forget about that...

 

[Nightman]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

You'll be replacing 40% of your best unit and gambling that 1) Jones or JPP can be signed for the difference and 2) they'll make a significant enough contribution to the defense to make a noticeable improvement.

The logic I'm using is the same one many people (Jerry and several former coaches/analysts included) are using when talking about starting Dak vs Tony.

It goes something like this: "Winning consistently in the NFL is incredibly difficult, so don't change what's working"

It isn't a dollar for dollar comparison....just saying I wouldn't use that many resources on the OL

And it would be replacing 20% of the OL.....Collins was the starter.....replacing Free with Green is an upgrade.....Free is a done as a starter and would make a great cheap swing OT with a paycut

 

[waving monkey]

Green needs to show he can stay healthy before the team can reliably trust him

 

[Silver Surfer]

It isn't a dollar for dollar comparison....just saying I wouldn't use that many resources on the OL

And it would be replacing 20% of the OL.....Collins was the starter.....replacing Free with Green is an upgrade.....Free is a done as a starter and would make a great cheap swing OT with a paycut

I don't think I'm alone in thinking that Collins has the potential to be a better player, but Leary is playing more consistently and therefore better right now.

Given Green's inability to stay healthy in college and with the Cowboys, there's no way I'm counting on him until he can prove he can stay on the field.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

13 million is way to rich for Leary IMO

My god, people can't be serious...keep Romo as a back up making 20 million, franchise tag Leary...

 

[The Quest for Six]

this may be WAY off and if so, then set me straight. Seems to me like he's been playing at a high level for a few years now and has a nasty streak. He's been vastly underpaid and is a key part of the O. Lots of guys are enamored with L.Collins but he's young and been hurt.

So...what about tagging him for a year? I can't think of anyone else on the team we'd want to use it on. I'm sure Ron wants a long term deal but business is business. He'd virtually be set for life if we tagged him and he's good with his money.

Pretty sure it would be around 13 mil which is darn high but it would allow us to keep the best Oline in football in tact for another year AND it would potentially allow us to move L. Collins to Right Tackle and replace Free. It doesn't look like Green will pan out because he's a china doll.

Cowboys will be 17 million over the cap at the end of the year........Leary isn't coming back....younger cheaper Collins will be the starter next year, and Dallas will take the compensatory pick for Leary signing somewhere else

 

[darthseinfeld]

My god, people can't be serious...keep Romo as a back up making 20 million, franchise tag Leary...

We should give Lance Dunbar a 6 year 130 million dollar extention with 100 million guaranteed

 

[lukin2006]

My guess is they'll roll with Collins, some team like Jacksonville will overpay for Leary.

I'm more concerned with right tackle, Free needs to be replaced, not with Green.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Hope Leary doesn't goto the Giants, Eagles, or Commanders

The Skins likely would go after him. They need an upgrade at LG and obviously there is the Callahan connection.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

We should give Lance Dunbar a 6 year 130 million dollar extention with 100 million guaranteed

don't forget to save enough space for Kellen Moore's massive deal

 

[darthseinfeld]

don't forget to save enough space for Kellen Moore's massive deal

Im sure we can create more cap space buy extending Romo and doing a restructure. If we sign Romo to a 10 year, 250 million dollar contract we can create a ton of cap room by pushing the first and second year money into later years. That we we can break the bank for Moore

 

[robbieruff]

Hope Leary doesn't goto the Giants, Eagles, or Commanders

I think if Callahan is still coaching Skins Oline hen that Is a possible destination. Leary developed under his guidance before and there is likely a good relationship there still.

 

[SlammedZero]

I don't get all the Green chatter. Guy hasn't been healthy hardly at all. I'm pretty much losing hope on that one real quick. I get that some players are worth the experiment but how much time do you really want to wrap up into a player before you realize it is probably better to just cut your losses?