Question for all you Mav's fans......

[ABQCOWBOY]

Now that Kidd has announced his retirement, do you think that the team should retire his number?

 

[bounce]

Not a Mavs fan, but absolutely not. The major part of his career and accolades was as a New Jersey Net or a Phoenix Sun.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not a Mavs fan, but absolutely not. The major part of his career and accolades was as a New Jersey Net or a Phoenix Sun.

Actually, and I could be wrong, the Mav's were the team he spent the longest with. 8 Seasons? He was drafted by the Mavs and his only championship was with the Mavs so I don't know that I agree with you there. However, it's really none of my business because I'm not a Mav's fan.

 

[DFWJC]

I think evenutally, they will consider it.

Kidd considers himself a Mav, the Mavs drafted him, and he won his (and the Mavs') only title in Dallas.
But he did go back on his word with Cuban when he bolted last year. Until then, I would have said it's a lock. Eventually, the two will patch things up (they've always gotten along great) and Cuban will consider letting Kidd retire his number in Dallas.

He's not the ideal candidate becasue he spent so much time (and so much success) elsewhere. But he is a Hall of Fame player, so Dallas could do worse than having J Kidd's number retired there.

 

[TheCowboy]

When he left Dallas for New York I don't think he deserves it. Plus most of his career was in New Jersey.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think evenutally, they will consider it.

Kidd considers himself a Mav, the Mavs drafted him, and he won his (and the Mavs') only title in Dallas.
But he did go back on his word with Cuban when he bolted last year. Until then, I would have said it's a lock. Eventually, the two will patch things up (they've always gotten along great) and Cuban will consider letting Kidd retire his number in Dallas.

Yeah, but I thought that the speculation was that Kidd went back on his word because of the interview Cuban had where he said he would not hang Kidd's Jersey?

Maybe I'm missing some pieces here.

 

[DFWJC]

Yeah, but I thought that the speculation was that Kidd went back on his word because of the interview Cuban had where he said he would not hang Kidd's Jersey?

Maybe I'm missing some pieces here.

The other way around.

Cuban said he wouldn't hang his Jersey because he was so upset that Kidd went back on his word.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When he left Dallas for New York I don't think he deserves it. Plus most of his career was in New Jersey.

Why do I keep hearing this? He was in Dallas longer then he was in New Jersey.

 

[DFWJC]

Why do I keep hearing this? He was in Dallas longer then he was in New Jersey.

That's right.

8 to 7

 

[TheCowboy]

Why do I keep hearing this? He was in Dallas longer then he was in New Jersey.

LOL my bad didn't read the other posts. Still nonetheless I don't think his number should be retired.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The other way around.

Cuban said he wouldn't hang his Jersey because he was so upset that Kidd went back on his word.

Auhh.... OK. Well, I wonder if Cuban will reconsider now that Kidd has retired? He would probably be the 1st Maverick player in the HOF. Cuban would look pretty stupid if he didn't have him retired and the guy was the only player in the Hall.

 

[DFWJC]

Auhh.... OK. Well, I wonder if Cuban will reconsider now that Kidd has retired? He would probably be the 1st Maverick player in the HOF. Cuban would look pretty stupid if he didn't have him retired and the guy was the only player in the Hall.

:laugh2: I can see by a couple of your comments that you aren't much of a fan of Cuban as an owner?

Anyway. It'll happen.
Because he went back on his word, I suspect he will have to wait a very short time. But Kidd already is buttering his bread--as he said today he thought Cuban was one of, if not the, best owner in all of sports.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....r-relationship-while-feuding-with-jason-kidd/

Then Dirk will be up there too and also in the HOF.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

:laugh2: I can see by a couple of your comments that you aren't much of a fan of Cuban as an owner?

Anyway. It'll happen.
Because he went back on his word, I suspect he will have to wait a very short time. But Kidd already is buttering his bread--as he said today he thought Cuban was one of, if not the, best owner in all of sports.

Then Dirk will be up there too and also in the HOF.

No, I think you would definitely be wide of the mark there. I don't love the guy, he has done some bone head things over the years but I don't hate him either. For the most part, he's pretty straight up in his opinions, right or wrong, so I can respect that from him.

It's not a personal thing for me. He is what he is.

 

[DFWJC]

No, I think you would definitely be wide of the mark there. I don't love the guy, he has done some bone head things over the years but I don't hate him either. For the most part, he's pretty straight up in his opinions, right or wrong, so I can respect that from him.

It's not a personal thing for me. He is what he is.

Fair enough.

 

[RastaRocket]

No, the prime of his career was not in Dallas. I can see where you are coming from because we drafted him and he won a ring here; but I just don't think he was the face of this franchise. 41 is the only number from this era that shall go in the rafters.

 

[bounce]

Actually, and I could be wrong, the Mav's were the team he spent the longest with. 8 Seasons? He was drafted by the Mavs and his only championship was with the Mavs so I don't know that I agree with you there. However, it's really none of my business because I'm not a Mav's fan.

I didn't say he wasn't with Dallas the longest of any one team, I just mean that Jason Kidd's accomplishments as a Net or a Sun will be far more remembered than anything he did as a Mav. Championship with Dallas aside, the 12 year span in-between Dallas stints were what made Jason Kidd great. He was with Dallas longer than any one team, but he accomplished more individually, and built his HOF resume, in other uniforms.

 

[joseephuss]

I didn't say he wasn't with Dallas the longest of any one team, I just mean that Jason Kidd's accomplishments as a Net or a Sun will be far more remembered than anything he did as a Mav. Championship with Dallas aside, the 12 year span in-between Dallas stints were what made Jason Kidd great. He was with Dallas longer than any one team, but he accomplished more individually, and built his HOF resume, in other uniforms.

For example, he made 2 All-star games as a Maverick while going to 3 as a Sun and 5 with the Nets.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

For example, he made 2 All-star games as a Maverick while going to 3 as a Sun and 5 with the Nets.

On the other hand, he won 1 NBA championship as a Mav while winning zero as a Sun or a Net.


I think it's all in how you measure accomplishments. I would not have a problem with anybody who said his career was at it's height while playing for other teams but I can also see where a person can make an argument to say that his career reached it's zenith, while playing in Dallas and winning his only championship.

 

[joseephuss]

On the other hand, he won 1 NBA championship as a Mav while winning zero as a Sun or a Net.


I think it's all in how you measure accomplishments. I would not have a problem with anybody who said his career was at it's height while playing for other teams but I can also see where a person can make an argument to say that his career reached it's zenith, while playing in Dallas and winning his only championship.

Championships are still dependent on the strength of the entire team, not just the individual. If Kidd was in his prime or at his best the last few years he was in Dallas they perhaps would have won more than 1 championship. It is clear his best days were when he played for other teams even though his greatest accomplishment is winning a championship with the Mavs.

 

[RastaRocket]

Kidd was a bus driver for that championship run.