Question regarding Zeke and his suspension

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I am not saying he is not guilty, or he is guilty. but his drama happened before he was an NFL employee. why and how can NFL punish him for his past discretion? can they legally do that? what if a player hit a girl in high school (and truth comes out few years later). can NFL punish the player for his past disgression?

 

[CowboyStar88]

I am not saying he is not guilty, or he is guilty. but his drama happened before he was an NFL employee. why and how can NFL punish him for his past discretion? can they legally do that? what if a player hit a girl in high school (and truth comes out few years later). can NFL punish the player for his past disgression?

He signed his contract before the incident in July 2016

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I am not saying he is not guilty, or he is guilty. but his drama happened before he was an NFL employee. why and how can NFL punish him for his past discretion? can they legally do that? what if a player hit a girl in high school (and truth comes out few years later). can NFL punish the player for his past disgression?

You are incorrect. What he was suspended for allegedly happened after he was drafted. I say allegedly because the NFL has no clue if it actually happened - nobody does except Zeke and the woman involved.

 

[Kaiser]

You are incorrect. What he was suspended for allegedly happened after he was drafted. I say allegedly because the NFL has no clue if it actually happened - nobody does except Zeke and the woman involved.

That's false, the NFL has a clue what happened because four witnesses gave statements to police that Zeke did nothing wrong. One of the four was the accusers friend who gave police a sworn statement that nothing happened and the accuser asked her to lie about Zeke.

This isn't "he said, she said". This is "she said and every shred of evidence says the opposite".

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

That's false, the NFL has a clue what happened because four witnesses gave statements to police that Zeke did nothing wrong. One of the four was the accusers friend who gave police a sworn statement that nothing happened and the accuser asked her to lie about Zeke.

This isn't "he said, she said". This is "she said and every shred of evidence says the opposite".

My point was that the NFL made this ruling despite a lack of evidence to support such ruling.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You are incorrect. What he was suspended for allegedly happened after he was drafted. I say allegedly because the NFL has no clue if it actually happened - nobody does except Zeke and the woman involved.

drafted but not under contract. he had not signed, got paid, or guaranteed any money. he could have said, no thank you, I am playing baseball....his official employment was when he signed contract. but I am not a lawyer, so they probably know better.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

My point was that the NFL made this ruling despite a lack of evidence to support such ruling.

I agree. Jerry is right. they went light on Rice. got slammed. they went light on brown (giants kicker I believe) for same accusations last year and gave him one game suspension. now, they wanted to show how serious they are about domestic violence. so they used zeke as example. the NFL lead investigator suggested no suspension, but goodell decided not to listen.

the next CBA is going to be a tough one for NFL. there is plenty of owners now that are not on side of goodell, led by Jerry and several of the bigger ownership groups. I heard 17.... the NFL rating down trend is not helping goodell, even though in his tenure revenue went up by 8 Billion.....

 

[Alexander]

My point was that the NFL made this ruling despite a lack of evidence to support such ruling.

Oh yeah? So what?

 

[Nightman]

drafted but not under contract. he had not signed, got paid, or guaranteed any money. he could have said, no thank you, I am playing baseball....his official employment was when he signed contract. but I am not a lawyer, so they probably know better.

Players agree to and are bound by the rules of the NFL when they go to the Combine

And your initial premise is wrong anyways...... Elliott signed his deal May 18th and the incident happened in late July

Joe Mixon, Frank Clark, Tyreek Hill and others in the NFL had prior DV charges that weren't punished because they happened before they entered the Draft

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Players agree to and are bound by the rules of the NFL when they go to the Combine

And your initial premise is wrong anyways...... Elliott signed his deal May 18th and the incident happened in late July

Joe Mixon, Frank Clark, Tyreek Hill and others in the NFL had prior DV charges that weren't punished because they happened before they entered the Draft

thanks for clarification. I didn't know all the details and rules.

 

[xwalker]

That's false, the NFL has a clue what happened because four witnesses gave statements to police that Zeke did nothing wrong. One of the four was the accusers friend who gave police a sworn statement that nothing happened and the accuser asked her to lie about Zeke.

This isn't "he said, she said". This is "she said and every shred of evidence says the opposite".

 

[xwalker]

drafted but not under contract. he had not signed, got paid, or guaranteed any money. he could have said, no thank you, I am playing baseball....his official employment was when he signed contract. but I am not a lawyer, so they probably know better.

The NFL makes up the rules as they go and their is no judge thatand will call them on it.

There are many things that would fall apart in a jury type trial but no judge will let it get to that point.

 

[TWOK11]

That's false, the NFL has a clue what happened because four witnesses gave statements to police that Zeke did nothing wrong. One of the four was the accusers friend who gave police a sworn statement that nothing happened and the accuser asked her to lie about Zeke.

This isn't "he said, she said". This is "she said and every shred of evidence says the opposite".

Well that's not ENTIRELY true. The women still had documented bruises not explained by the altercation with the woman she tried to get blamed on Zeke.

We know for a fact SOME of her story was fabricated, and we know she actively collides with friends to railroad Zeke. We do not know where he ever struck her or not, and in fact prosecutors said they highly suspected he had there just wasn't sufficient evidence to try him on.

All that being said, the NFL has no business labeling him an abuser based on the current circumstances. Unfirtunateky they can suspend him for whatever they want however.

 

[Beast_from_East]

My point was that the NFL made this ruling despite a lack of evidence to support such ruling.

The NFL says the pictures the girl took of her bruises on her cell phone were approximately at the same time she was dating Zeke.

So Zeke obviously is the only person who could have inflicted these injuries


Case closed.

 

[Kaiser]

The NFL makes up the rules as they go and their is no judge thatand will call them on it.

There are many things that would fall apart in a jury type trial but no judge will let it get to that point.

I disagree, the Judges that granted TROs saw this situation for what it was. This Judge may or may not be influenced by her Husband's efforts for the CBA, but IMO there is no question the NFL went to her because they knew what answer she would deliver.

Also Zeke gets boned on the suspension but he will clean the NFL's clock when this actually goes to trial.

 

[Kaiser]

All that being said, the NFL has no business labeling him an abuser based on the current circumstances. Unfirtunateky they can suspend him for whatever they want however.

In the short term they can. In the long run this situation could be a tipping point and it is definitely going to cost Goodell his job. Jerry is the loudest voice, but a majority of the owners have to see that if the NFL turns into a middle school version of who is teacher's pet most of them will be on the outside looking in.