"I hope they (offense) do not throw the ball in my direction" Per Roy Williams

[MrMom]

and queue adam with the stats on how roy's dedication to god has made him a far better player than sanders, polamlu, rhodes, etc.

 

[THUMPER]

its odd that he wont put a big clean hit on someone because he "rededicated" his life to god, yet him and god have no problem with a constant dirty play that he cant stop doing that can end the other players career?

odd. Something tells me God has nothing to do with it and preperation, desire and work ethic does. I am not sure how many big hits he can put on anyone when you are consistently out of position.

I hope he has a great year and bounces back. With the corners we have on this roster now, if guys are running wide open all over the field something is really wrong.

I agree and would actually prefer he NOT go for the big hit but learn how to tackle properly. His technique is horrible and he still has not learned how to tackle anyone the right way even after a number of years in the league.

This thing with the "horse-collar" is just ridiculous and shows how little time he puts into learning proper technique or in preparation. To me he appears unteachable and uninterested in being taught.

He was one of my favorite players as a rookie but he has dropped a long ways down since then in my estimation. If he doesn't rededicate himself to his profession this year then I don't want to see him in a Cowboys uniform in 2009.

 

[TheCount]

His point was that in some situations you can't hedge your bet. For example, if you have a linebacker that's in shallow coverage, and you're lined up on a guy in the slot on the defensive left, you can emphasize your coverage to the defensive left because you know that if he goes right, there's a linebacker there to help out.

If you take those comments completely out of context, yeah, they don't make much sense. Thankfully, there's context, so we don't have to do that.

I get it.

I'm just not sure which is worse. A safety making as much money as he does complaining about how difficult coverage is, or our staff for not giving him more help when he's already made up his mind he can't do it before the receiver even lines up.

 

[theogt]

I get it.

I'm just not sure which is worse. A safety making as much money as he does complaining about how difficult coverage is, or our staff for not giving him more help when he's already made up his mind he can't do it before the receiver even lines up.

There's no perfect defense. Like he said, there are cover 2 beaters, there are cover 3 beaters, etc. It's just a chess match. Everyone attempts to get a favorable matchup on a safety or a linebacker.

The only answer is to put 4-6 cover corners on the field at all times, but then you lose run support. That's just football.

 

[TheCount]

There's no perfect defense. Like he said, there are cover 2 beaters, there are cover 3 beaters, etc. It's just a chess match. Everyone attempts to get a favorable matchup on a safety or a linebacker.

The only answer is to put 4-6 cover corners on the field at all times, but then you lose run support. That's just football.

Amazing how ANY safety or linebacker can cover in this league then.

 

[TheKey]

Get off the man's back. Gripe about him all you want for getting burnt, I will even join in, but don't get onto him for changing his playing style after finding God. If that is what he needed to do, then he needed to do it, and im happy for him. Theres more to life (and beyond) than making big hits.

 

[euphoniumfreak]

Man roy is ok he can hit but he cant wrap to save his life. if there is one thing i hate about defenses in the NFL is that a lot of them cant wrap and bring people down. Thats something you get tought in middle school he just needs to work on coverage and wrapping better.

 

[theogt]

Amazing how ANY safety or linebacker can cover in this league then.

They typically can't. That's why their safeties and not corners. Roy's coverage metrics have been just as good or better than other safeties.

Go to a Steelers forum during a game. People call for Troy P. to be cut all the time. The fans there think he's the worst safety in the league.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Get off the man's back. Gripe about him all you want for getting burnt, I will even join in, but don't get onto him for changing his playing style after finding God. If that is what he needed to do, then he needed to do it, and im happy for him. Theres more to life (and beyond) than making big hits.

Would you pay an exterminator if he let all the insects live?



Wait... let me answer....

Uh, No!

 

[TheCount]

They typically can't. That's why their safeties and not corners. Roy's coverage metrics have been just as good or better than other safeties.

Go to a Steelers forum during a game. People call for Troy P. to be cut all the time. The fans there think he's the worst safety in the league.

I'd actually be interested to see how his numbers compare to other safeties, and not the average safeties, but the ones people generally consider good safeties.

 

[TheKey]

Would you pay an exterminator if he let all the insects live?



Wait... let me answer....

Uh, No!

No, but if he picks them up and brings them out of the house, I dont care if he kills them.

 

[Eskimo]

Get off the man's back. Gripe about him all you want for getting burnt, I will even join in, but don't get onto him for changing his playing style after finding God. If that is what he needed to do, then he needed to do it, and im happy for him. Theres more to life (and beyond) than making big hits.

Making big hits and intimidating people was the only good part of his game. We might as well just put him on the bench if he isn't going to play hardnosed football. It is a violent game, that is its nature. You hit the other guy hard in the hopes of intimidating him to drop the ball or fumble.

 

[RainMan]

It's great that Roy has found God. That's obviously a very important thing to him, and through that he has become more charitable. Awesome stuff. That obviously has a much larger real-world significance than his football playing abilities, and the two should never be compared.

With that disclaimer said, as a Cowboys fan, it's sad to hear what many assumed -- by bettering his life with religion, Roy essentially lost the fire in his belly for football. We've all seen it, talked about it, but I think in the back of our minds we hoped those big hits would return.

Unfortunately, that ship looks to have sailed. And so should Roy's time in Dallas.

He's no longer a football player at heart. Again, for him that might be the best thing ever. But for the franchise, it's definitely not helping on the field.

BTW ... props to Michael Irvin. He has been hammering out one great interview after another lately. Be it Pacman, Roy, Josh Howard, he's all over the place with the qutoes he's getting from these guys. He's no longer just an ex-football player with a good personality, he's become much more journalistic. He'll ask the tough question. Again, props to him. Good to see him doing so well in his post-football life.

 

[RainMan]

Based on that snippet from him. I really dont see it happening. Expect a new # and more of the same from last year.

Who was it that smoked in the playoff game? Toomer for a TD?

It seems like the ONLY thing we have as a basis to hope for a renewed Roy is his new jersey number. Not renewed dedication, work ethic, athleticism or fire -- just the shirt on his back.

I'd hold off on buying those No. 38 jerseys, folks.

 

[RainMan]

I agree and would actually prefer he NOT go for the big hit but learn how to tackle properly. His technique is horrible and he still has not learned how to tackle anyone the right way even after a number of years in the league.

This thing with the "horse-collar" is just ridiculous and shows how little time he puts into learning proper technique or in preparation. To me he appears unteachable and uninterested in being taught.

He was one of my favorite players as a rookie but he has dropped a long ways down since then in my estimation. If he doesn't rededicate himself to his profession this year then I don't want to see him in a Cowboys uniform in 2009.

Good post.

I agree the bit hit should not be used at every chance to wraup up. But, I think the big hit was a big part of his game, and one that has been sorely missing. Remember that hit he had on Toomer years back that rejuvenated the D? You could feel it in the building. He used to bring that once a game, seemingly. We're now hoping for once a year.

Again, agree entirely he needs better technique. But I think those big hits, when used at the right time, can change a game emotionally.

 

[RainMan]

Amazing how ANY safety or linebacker can cover in this league then.

Sorry for the fourth-straight reply to this thread ... this topic just has me fired up a tad.

You're entirely right. And it's not like Roy just struggles when one-on-one. He has horrible ball judgment, hip rotation, etc., no matter what situation he's in.

 

[theogt]

I'd actually be interested to see how his numbers compare to other safeties, and not the average safeties, but the ones people generally consider good safeties.

Check out Pro Football Prospectus or Scientific Football.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I don’t believe religion has anything to do with him not making the big hits. It is just ANOTHER excuse. EXCUSE after EXCUSE is made for Roy OVER and OVER again. Maybe just maybe, he is just not the same player anymore. I don’t care about the excuses anymore. Roy, put up or shut up.

 

[Rampage]

religion made him soft. you can be a saint and do your religious stuff when you're off the field Roy, but when you're on the field you need to become the Devil you once were to opposing offenses.

 

[SaMaD_KhARoME]

Sorry for the fourth-straight reply to this thread ... this topic just has me fired up a tad.

Yo u're entirely right. And it's not like Roy just struggles when one-on-one. He has horrible ball judgment, hip rotation, etc., no matter what situation he's in.

You know i dont know if it was the big hits that used to offset his coverage abilities when he was a rookie..but then if u look at those highlight he was incredibly more lean and agile

how much bearings do our personal trainers have in this as well? arent these guys paid to make sure players come in fit and ready for a grinding season? how come no one paid him a off-season visit to show that somebody actually cared? how could we of let this happen