Rams get #1 overall

Plankton said:
So did a good amount of people.

However, you had people on this site insisting that these QBs were not as highly regarded as Griffin, or Winston, or Mariota.

Then, the Rams traded a Brinks truck for the 1st pick to take a QB.

There goes the theory.
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Highly regarded or as good?
 
My gut says this is a blessing in disguise. I'm not now, nor have I ever been, sold on Wentz. I know he's highly rated, but my instincts tell me his the next RG3, someone who will make a big splash in his first season and then quickly fade. Of course, I could be wrong. There's no way to know for sure, but I was having the same doubts about RG3 when they paid a King's ransom to move up and draft him.
I felt like that puke team would end up regretting it.
 
silver said:
I also think it's Goff who they want.
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I don't, I think Goff would have been available at #7 so they could have saved picks and traded with Dallas
to get him. The pick has to be Wentz since that is who Cleveland has been wooing over most of the season.
Cleveland may leave Goff on the table now though for someone else to come up for.
 
erod said:
Well, I think Wentz and Goff are now set to go 1 and 2, so they're off the board.

You're right about the desperation for quarterbacks. These guys are mere projections, not hardly worthy of the top two picks by pedigree or resume.
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I have to ask, what is it about Goff's resume that looks bad to you?

But all the Aaron Donalds in the world can't win without a good QB. Houston is a prime example. So is Buffalo.
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You either have one, hope you have one, or desperately pay the price to try to get one.

Look at all of the playoff teams to reinforce the fact. All of them had top quarterbacks, most of whom were first round draft picks who provided very good, if not great quarterback play to get them there. A few teams like Houston and Minnesota made it with great defense and average quarterback play, but they were quickly exposed and bounced out.
 
aikemirv said:
That is a great question. While I like Wentz and Goff, neither of them is rated like a Andrew Luck. I could see it if seemed more like a sure thing but Goff and Wentz are really a bit more of question marks than your average1st pick QB
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It seems like NFL teams don't buy that. All the posters that have bashed these QBs need to take notice.
 
Alexander said:
I doubt it. I think he is in play in the top 10 for sure. Just too gifted to slide down that far. Usually by this point there would have been more negatives out there about him, like it was for Bridgewater.

I don't see any other than he needs development, but he checks all the other boxes.
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Mayock said on NFL Network that Jets at 20 would probably take him, if not Cards or Broncos. It would be something if he makes it to the Broncos, they lose all their QBs after their SB season and then have Lynch fall to them.
 
Carharris2 said:
Highly regarded or as good?
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I think that either Goff or Wentz could be as good as any of those three.

The Rams must think so as well, otherwise they wouldn't have given up their draft capital for the next two years.
 
This is so confusing because I was assured by 'knowledgeable' football experts on CZ who are renowned 'YouTube scouts' that none of the QBs this year are franchise QBs. Yet an NFL team is not willing to accept that. How can it be?

Also, we better not take Ramsey or Tunsil or Bosa at 4. Goff or trade down are the only options
 
LittleD said:
I don't, I think Goff would have been available at #7 so they could have saved picks and traded with Dallas
to get him. The pick has to be Wentz since that is who Cleveland has been wooing over most of the season.
Cleveland may leave Goff on the table now though for someone else to come up for.
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Or a smart team like the Cowboys to see what's happening around this league to draft Goff at #4.
 
TheCount said:
Okay, clearly you're a little emotional about this for whatever reason, we're literally just talking through draft scenarios, so relax.

Rams are jumping up to take a QB, for a lot of reasons that I'm sure you're capable of reasoning out. A lot of people have already talked about some of those reasons in this thread.

Believe it or not, even without Tunsil, we may still not resign Frederick. Martin is a higher priority to retain, Tyron isn't going anywhere and Collin's will need to be resigned in 2017, if not earlier. This isn't an indictment against Frederick, it's the problem with playing in the cap era.

I'm not arguing BPA, because BPA isn't a realistic draft strategy, it just sounds great on a bumper sticker. Team's always mix need with talent when they make their decisions.
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thanks for the counseling, i feel better already...now with all that aside, back to your point, taking Tunsil would probably make Frederick expenable for salary reasons, and no matter what anyone thinks, I believe Collins should be kicked out to RT, as I feel he is out of position at LG. with Leary moving back to LG. but that's just me. as for the draft....if Wentz or Goff are there at #4 that's a no brainer, if not, i would seriously entertain a trade down to #6 or #7 and getting Elliott. and that's a wrap.
 
If I was the Rams, I would've worked out a trade with the Chargers. Why would you want to pick a QB BEFORE the Browns picked? The Browns are masters of drafting terrible QB's, so why would you think this year will be different? You let the Browns pick the QB that is sure to suck, then you draft the guy that they didn't want. That's the guy that's gonna be a superstar. Duh.
 
1- Wentz
2- Goff
3- Tunsil or Ramsey

This is shaping up very well indeed. Not going to lie, it's not the biggest need but the idea of adding Tunsil to this line makes me giddy
 
Sydla said:
Well that was a nice dream while it lasted.

Can't wait 3 years from now when we are scrambling to find a franchise QB.
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Yeah, all that dreaming by LA fans will turn into a nightmare shortly when they are looking for a franchise QB 3 years later. Tough trying to find a franchise QB when you don't have picks and a lot of holes.

I doubt Wentz will even be active this year, let alone the starter. Romo even said he wasn't ready for his first three years. Wentz might be ready in 2018 but by that time the Rams will be likely be awful. I'd be surprised if Wentz is not another player like the Chiefs' OT Fisher who is a monumental bust as the top pick from a small school.
 
Plankton said:
The Rams need a QB. Period. They obviously thought highly enough of one of these guys that they wanted to ensure that they got their QB.

Stash said it best - you either have a QB, or you'll move heaven and earth to get one. They think one of these guys is worth it. We'll see. They certainly traded enough to make it happen.

But, there were some on here who said that the QBs weren't thought that highly of. This trade alone blows that theory to smithereens.
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And yet the same idiots who were banging the drums for a running back or linebacker with a bum knee will continue to overlook it.
 
erod said:
I obviously don't know better. If these seasoned GMs can't pick quarterbacks, I sure as heck can't.

But I don't see Andrew Luck in any of these guys coming out of college. Maybe they do.
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oh no, you didn't just say that. some here beleive Wentz is the best qb prospect ever.
 
stasheroo said:
Or a smart team like the Cowboys to see what's happening around this league to draft Goff at #4.
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Whoever said the Cowboys FO was smart? I don't think Goff will be there but, if he is, the chum effect will take over and you know
Jerry likes to wheel and deal. Tradedown for Elliott looks to be brighter this morning.
 
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