Randle says "Murray left a lot of meat on the bone"

[zeroburrito]

maybe he means he left a team that is still very good despite losing him?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He's right but should keep his mouth shut.

Why should he? We sit here all day on this forum talking about how MurrAy left yards on the field so what makes Randle any less qualified to do so? To his credit.... He took advantage of his limited amount of carries and didn't leave yards out there.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

How is that? He was specifically talking about Murray.

Randle did not say those exact words, which is what quotation marks signify,,, the misuse of the quotes made it sound more personal and direct.

 

[sideon]

You'll end up leaving a lot of 'meat on the bone' when you're the battering ram that is getting run into the ground. He'll learn that if he takes a Murray-esque role this year.

Has nothing to do with being a battering ram, Murray isn't fast and he has below average vision so he left yards on the field. Go back and look at the preseason game against the Ravens when he catches a check down from Romo, all he has to do is run to Dez's right and he's gone but he turns it inside and get popped.

 

[ohiocowboysfan25]

Demarco's response to Randle

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...randle-can-taste-some-of-that-meat-this-year/

“Hopefully he can taste some of that meat this year,” Murray said, via CSNPhilly.com. “They’re a good team. Hopefully he can get a chance to run behind that line and do some good things. But I’m not worried about it. I didn’t hear about it until now. It’s not a big deal.”

 

[Nightman]

Murray is a class act. And its pretty obvious he still wants to be a Cowboy.

Thing is, as much as people are upset about him leaving, I really think that they only way for Dallas to improve was to let him go. I don't think Murray could have handled another 400 touches this season.

Murray's full response. He stayed classy

“Hopefully he can taste some of that meat this year,” Murray said, via CSNPhilly.com. “They’re a good team. Hopefully he can get a chance to run behind that line and do some good things. But I’m not worried about it. I didn’t hear about it until now. It’s not a big deal.”

 

[Nightman]

Randle did not say those exact words, which is what quotation marks signify,,, the misuse of the quotes made it sound more personal and direct.

It was personal and direct. It was personally directed towards Murray.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

It was personal and direct. It was personally directed towards Murray.

regardless of your opinion on Randle's intent, that punctuation signifies exact quotes, word for word.

 

[revospeed]

Perhaps Murray would have gotten that mean off the bone if he wasn't pining for the Eagles last season.

 

[FLcowboy]

It's true, but Randle wins the bozo of the month award for saying it.

I like players with a chip on their shoulder, or, confidence. Randle had his moments, and if he gets a chance to pick the meat off the bone, we all will be happy.

 

[Clove]

As Mike Tyson used to say, "everybody has a plan, until they get hit in the mouth". It's easy to talk about cut here, cut there, run here, run there until you're in the game. Now I'm expecting Randle to get 2300 + yards this year, since he basically believes he can get 1850, and not leave another 500 or so yards on the field.
My popcorn is ready.

 

[Bleu Star]

Murray's full response. He stayed classy

“Hopefully he can taste some of that meat this year,” Murray said, via CSNPhilly.com. “They’re a good team. Hopefully he can get a chance to run behind that line and do some good things. But I’m not worried about it. I didn’t hear about it until now. It’s not a big deal.”

I would expect nothing less from Demarco. Time to move on from Randle's ridiculous comment.

 

[gmoney112]

Haha Randle's sassy. I like it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Has nothing to do with being a battering ram, Murray isn't fast and he has below average vision so he left yards on the field. Go back and look at the preseason game against the Ravens when he catches a check down from Romo, all he has to do is run to Dez's right and he's gone but he turns it inside and get popped.

That drives me crazy no matter who it is.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

All good points about all types of great backs. But that's the difference. They were all different types of backs.

Peterson is every type of back. Big, strong, fast, elusive, football smart, intensely dedicated.....everything. And he's done it absolutely awful quarterbacks. Tavaris Jackson, Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, Kelly Holcombe, Gus Frerotte, Matt Cassell, Josh Freeman...are you kidding me? He had one decent year from an ancient Farve, and that was it. Peterson has been a one-man offense.

No. AD is very good but he's not the best at every skill. All of these guys were every type of back, to certain degrees. Honestly, the best all around do it all back I ever saw was Walter Payton. He was better then AD from the stand point of being able to do everything you want out of a back and the best QB he ever played with was McMahon, who was not all that great. Lots of these backs never played with great QBs. Barry Sanders never played with a great QB. Eric Dickerson played with guys that would make ADs list look like perennial All Pros. Just awful! OJ never played with great QBs. AD is not unique in that regard.

I get you like him and I understand why. Your an OU guy, he's an OU back and he's really good but he's not the best. At this point, he's not even in the discussion IMO. He will have to do more for a few more years to be in the discussion and it remains to be seen if he can do that.

 

[erod]

No. AD is very good but he's not the best at every skill. All of these guys were every type of back, to certain degrees. Honestly, the best all around do it all back I ever saw was Walter Payton. He was better then AD from the stand point of being able to do everything you want out of a back and the best QB he ever played with was McMahon, who was not all that great. Lots of these backs never played with great QBs. Barry Sanders never played with a great QB. Eric Dickerson played with guys that would make ADs list look like perennial All Pros. Just awful! OJ never played with great QBs. AD is not unique in that regard.

I get you like him and I understand why. Your an OU guy, he's an OU back and he's really good but he's not the best. At this point, he's not even in the discussion IMO. He will have to do more for a few more years to be in the discussion and it remains to be seen if he can do that.

To me, Peterson is just a bigger, stronger version of Walter Payton. Dickerson and OJ aren't even in the conversation because they didn't run with a smidge of the ferocity that Peterson does. And I'd put Ferragamo, Everett, Chander and George WAY above the quarterbacks that Peterson played with.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

To me, Peterson is just a bigger, stronger version of Walter Payton. Dickerson and OJ aren't even in the conversation because they didn't run with a smidge of the ferocity that Peterson does. And I'd put Ferragamo, Everett, Chander and George WAY above the quarterbacks that Peterson played with.

That's fair enough but that's not how I see it. As I see it, Payton was a much better pass blocker and run blocker. A lot of people don't remember that about Payton but he was a heck of a lead blocker as well. Good luck even finding a starting RB who can lead block in todays game. You just don't see it anymore. Dickerson and OJ, IMO, are in the discussion because while they may not have run with the same power, they were both more dangerous backs. Both were faster IMO. OJ had much more ellusiveness. The idea that ferocity is what should drive the discussion is, IMO, only half of the story. You like that in a back but if that's the criteria we are judging on, then Earl Campbell is the greatest back there ever was and it's not even close.

If you feel as if those QBs were better, that's OK with me. I do not. Ferragamo was a one year wonder. He played behind one of the best Offensive Lines in the history of the game that year. They were very good. They had two different backs, rush for over 700 yards on the season (Cullen Bryant 807 w/4.4 YPC and Elvis Peacock 777 w/4.7 YPC). They also had two other guys who rushed for over 400 yards each (Mike Guman 4.1 YPC and Jewerl Thomas 6.3 YPC). I think Vince Ferragamo was a guy who caught lightning in a bottle for one year.

I played with Jim Everett. I think he's a good guy and he was an OK QB but I don't think he was great. Your opinion of him is a bit higher then mine.

Chandler was not great. In fact, he was so not great that in his rookie year, he had a 9-4 record and the very next year, he was benched. He had a record the next year 1-2. He was traded the next season, to Tampa. In 1991, he was with three different teams in the same year. In his 16 seasons in the NFL, he posted 3 winning seasons. He was not great.

Jeff George, he was one of the most talented QBs I've ever seen but he was not good. Played 12 seasons in the NFL, played for 5 different teams, most wins he ever had in the NFL was 9-7 in 1995 with Atlanta. His career record is 46-78. He should have been good but he was not.

 

[Idgit]

No. AD is very good but he's not the best at every skill. All of these guys were every type of back, to certain degrees. Honestly, the best all around do it all back I ever saw was Walter Payton. He was better then AD from the stand point of being able to do everything you want out of a back and the best QB he ever played with was McMahon, who was not all that great. Lots of these backs never played with great QBs. Barry Sanders never played with a great QB. Eric Dickerson played with guys that would make ADs list look like perennial All Pros. Just awful! OJ never played with great QBs. AD is not unique in that regard.

I get you like him and I understand why. Your an OU guy, he's an OU back and he's really good but he's not the best. At this point, he's not even in the discussion IMO. He will have to do more for a few more years to be in the discussion and it remains to be seen if he can do that.

Payton gets my vote, too. Pererson's not in the conversation yet, but he's getting there. Best of his generation, no doubt.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Why should he? We sit here all day on this forum talking about how MurrAy left yards on the field so what makes Randle any less qualified to do so? To his credit.... He took advantage of his limited amount of carries and didn't leave yards out there.

True true and for the record I'm a Randle fan. It's all in the karma and psychology of the matter. I believe in setting up a pyschological edge that's all. If it were me I would be 100% complimentary of Murray and go on about his professionalism and what I learned from him blah blah etc.. This is class and if you go out and actually crush it next year... you allow OTHERS to speculate how much better you than Murray ...NOT YOU!!!! This is how you win coming and going imho.

 

[erod]

That's fair enough but that's not how I see it. As I see it, Payton was a much better pass blocker and run blocker. A lot of people don't remember that about Payton but he was a heck of a lead blocker as well. Good luck even finding a starting RB who can lead block in todays game. You just don't see it anymore. Dickerson and OJ, IMO, are in the discussion because while they may not have run with the same power, they were both more dangerous backs. Both were faster IMO. OJ had much more ellusiveness. The idea that ferocity is what should drive the discussion is, IMO, only half of the story. You like that in a back but if that's the criteria we are judging on, then Earl Campbell is the greatest back there ever was and it's not even close.

If you feel as if those QBs were better, that's OK with me. I do not. Ferragamo was a one year wonder. He played behind one of the best Offensive Lines in the history of the game that year. They were very good. They had two different backs, rush for over 700 yards on the season (Cullen Bryant 807 w/4.4 YPC and Elvis Peacock 777 w/4.7 YPC). They also had two other guys who rushed for over 400 yards each (Mike Guman 4.1 YPC and Jewerl Thomas 6.3 YPC). I think Vince Ferragamo was a guy who caught lightning in a bottle for one year.

I played with Jim Everett. I think he's a good guy and he was an OK QB but I don't think he was great. Your opinion of him is a bit higher then mine.

Chandler was not great. In fact, he was so not great that in his rookie year, he had a 9-4 record and the very next year, he was benched. He had a record the next year 1-2. He was traded the next season, to Tampa. In 1991, he was with three different teams in the same year. In his 16 seasons in the NFL, he posted 3 winning seasons. He was not great.

Jeff George, he was one of the most talented QBs I've ever seen but he was not good. Played 12 seasons in the NFL, played for 5 different teams, most wins he ever had in the NFL was 9-7 in 1995 with Atlanta. His career record is 46-78. He should have been good but he was not.

As far as the quarterbacks, it's not about being great as much as it is about being able to put up passing numbers. Peterson's guys have been just awful. I'm talking 89-yards-passing-in-a-game awful much of the time.

Chandler and Ferragamo started in Super Bowls. Everett was good until he lost his nerve. George was BRILLIANT at times, but he had a lot of Jay Cutler in him, or the other way around. Amazing talent with a bad attitude and the social skills of a doorknob.

Didn't know you played with Everett. That's cool. At Purdue?