Ray told owner he wants to play for big d or nyj

[theebs]

I surely didn't miss 2006 when Bradie James got lit up Kitna, and Kitna said they targetted his butt. I didn't miss 2007 when Bradie James kept talking smack about how he would get Kitna, but didn't do jack squat again, with that pathetic Lions offense that couldn't protect anybody. 2006 was a schooling in how to beat up on the Cowboys by taking advantage of the middle of the field, where James was responible.Bradie James has never been very good without Wade. His best was average.

terrific answer and typical of your nonsense on here.

Bradie was very good in 05. But your usage of the lions game in 06 and what he didnt do to jon kitna as examples of how he wasnt are outstanding.

well done.

 

[khiladi]

The objection to Ray can only stand on two grounds, and one of them is definitely not that Bradie James is anywhere near as good. The three reasons are:1. Age, but Dallas is built to win now, as is evident by the Roy Williams trade. They need an attitude on defense.2. The signing of Ware. And that is the number one priority. 3. While I don't think Bradie James is great on his own, he is damn good when Wade is scheming. As long as Wade can hide him in pass coverage, I don't care. Our need is safety and defensive line, as well as an OC.

 

[RoboQB]

I surely didn't miss 2006 when Bradie James got lit up Kitna, and Kitna said they targetted his butt. I didn't miss 2007 when Bradie James kept talking smack about how he would get Kitna, but didn't do jack squat again, with that pathetic Lions offense that couldn't protect anybody. 2006 was a schooling in how to beat up on the Cowboys by taking advantage of the middle of the field, where James was responible.Bradie James has never been very good without Wade. His best was average.

So James doesn't get credit for learning a scheme? For improving from year to year? And isn't a coach supposed to make a player better? How did this turn from Ray Lewis possibly coming to Dallas to a witch hunt for Bradie James.

 

[khiladi]

terrific answer and typical of your nonsense on here.

Bradie was very good in 05. But your usage of the lions game in 06 and what he didnt do to jon kitna as examples of how he wasnt are outstanding.



well done.

Really... You make a claim he was good in 2005, without proof and then say I give a typical answer of nonsense. His total sack record is 13.5 sakcs, with 8 of them coming last year. That is 4.5 sacks over 3 years when he actually started, withotu Wade and the 4-6. And you call that impressive. That Dallas defense in 2006 was exposed up the middle, specificlaly Bradie James. He was absolutely horrible. He has always sucked in coverage. He wasn't doing anything significant this year as well, until Wade started employing him in 4-6 packages.

 

[Woods]

I guess anything is possible, but I just don't see R Lewis coming to Dallas.

Assuming JJ is serious about extending Ware this off-season, and I think he is, plus we will probably need to sign a couple of other FAs, it is going to be difficult to pay $10mm per year for Lewis.

Not to mention, that's way too much, IMO, for a 34 year old LB.

I don't think we are going to spend much on FAs this year.

 

[khiladi]

So James doesn't get credit for learning a scheme? For improving from year to year? And isn't a coach supposed to make a player better? How did this turn from Ray Lewis possibly coming to Dallas to a witch hunt for Bradie James.

Because one of the arguments is we shouldn't bring Ray Lewis, because that position is taken by Bradie, who had a good year. I stated that the year Bradie had was pramrily because of Wade. Without Wade, Bradie wasn't putting up great numbers at all. DO you think that Wade couldn't get better play out of Ray, who is a much better cover LB then Bradie James, who even with Wade's scheming still gets absued in pass coverage.

 

[khiladi]

Really, it doesn't bother me if we get Ray or not. I'm satisfied with Bradie, as long as Wade is coaching this defense. We have bigger needs.

 

[RoboQB]

I'm on board with whatever shakes out. I just don't think we should bash a player that has come a long way in 2 years.... and yes, he should've been in the Pro Bowl. It would be nice to see him excel further with Lewis alongside him. 10mil a year worries me but hell the Commanders do this crazy stuff every year.

 

[RoboQB]

Really, it doesn't bother me if we get Ray or not. I'm satisfied with Bradie, as long as Wade is coaching this defense. We have bigger needs.

Agreed

 

[khiladi]

I'm speaking negative about Bradie more in the context of him being equivalent to Ray Lewis. It isn't even close. Otherwise, he had a great year when Wade took over. Ray with Wade though, would be a different story, simply because Lewis is a much better coverage LB that Bradie, and he still can get pressure. He has the intangibles of being a leader and has a real nasty edge that this teams needs. He also is an incredibly smart LB.

 

[theebs]

Really... You make a claim he was good in 2005, without proof and then say I give a typical answer of nonsense. His total sack record is 13.5 sakcs, with 8 of them coming last year. That is 4.5 sacks over 3 years when he actually started, withotu Wade and the 4-6. And you call that impressive. That Dallas defense in 2006 was exposed up the middle, specificlaly Bradie James. He was absolutely horrible. He has always sucked in coverage. He wasn't doing anything significant this year as well, until Wade started employing him in 4-6 packages.

lol

bradie james in 2005 led the team in tackles with 109, he was the leading tackler in 7 of 16 games, and was third on the team with 4 tackles for losses, he had 2.5 sacks, He called the defensive signals in the huddle, he also had 4 pass breakups and 2 qb pressures.. All in his first season as a starter, in a new 3-4 defense.

 

[Randy White]

lol

bradie james in 2005 led the team in tackles with 109, he was the leading tackler in 7 of 16 games, and was third on the team with 4 tackles for losses, he had 2.5 sacks, He called the defensive signals in the huddle, he also had 4 pass breakups and 2 qb pressures.. All in his first season as a starter, in a new 3-4 defense.

don't abuse the children.

:laugh2:

 

[Randy White]

very simple, really..

Come this Friday, Ray Lewis will be an unrestricted free agent. Anybody care to guess how many teams are going to go after him ?

Now, on the other hand, make believe James is a free agent as well. 28 years old, coming off his best professional season ever.

anybody want venture a guess at how many teams would go after James ?

and there ends the debate.


People need to stop looking at future HOFs as if they were playing in their prime. Ray Lewis at age 28 is arguably the best player in the NFL. Ray Lewis at age 34 is not as good as Bradie James at age 28.

I know it, NFL GMs know it, and deep down inside most in here know it.

 

[Rampage]

very simple, really..

Come this Friday, Ray Lewis will be an unrestricted free agent. Anybody care to guess how many teams are going to go after him ?

Now, on the other hand, make believe James is a free agent as well. 28 years old, coming off his best professional season ever.

anybody want venture a guess at how many teams would go after James ?

and there ends the debate.


People need to stop looking at future HOFs as if they were playing in their prime. Ray Lewis at age 28 is arguably the best player in the NFL. Ray Lewis at age 34 is not as good as Bradie James at age 28.

I know it, NFL GMs know it, and deep down inside most in here know it.

:laugh2: Bradie James is a one dimensional player. he is terrible in coverage.

 

[BAT]

:laugh2: Bradie James is a one dimensional player. he is terrible in coverage.

Who would have thunk that he is at his best rushing the passer?


But the other guys have a point too, James' value is at its highest its ever been. If Ray is signed (as improbable as that may be), James should be traded.

 

[Teague31]

people have to realize that signing ray lewis is not about his playing ability, it is for his leadership. do i like the fact we have to hire someone for leadershio? no, it is a huge indictment on the current players but that is what it is.

 

[Rampage]

Who would have thunk that he is at his best rushing the passer?


But the other guys have a point too, James' value is at its highest its ever been. If Ray is signed (as improbable as that may be), James should be traded.

why? that makes no sense at all.

 

[BAT]

why? that makes no sense at all.

Seems clear to me.


1) Ray and Bradie play the same position. Sure, Ray could play WILB, but that is not his strength. Why pay someone all that money then put him in a position that does not maximize his success (see Zach Thomas).


2) More importantly, Ray and Bradie not only play the same position, they also hold the same position in the locker room. James is already on record that he doesn't want any more egos (ie superstar vets) brought on to the team. Both believe and talk like they are leaders. But Ray is the PROVEN leader, James is a Brian Stewart leader. He yaps a lot, but no one listens. Plus he is insecure, unwilling to allow another "expert" brought in to improve the team, afraid it would undermine his authority/expose him. Ray and Bradie will not co-exist very well, we all know how much James likes to whine to the media.

 

[JBS]

very simple, really..

Come this Friday, Ray Lewis will be an unrestricted free agent. Anybody care to guess how many teams are going to go after him ?

Now, on the other hand, make believe James is a free agent as well. 28 years old, coming off his best professional season ever.

anybody want venture a guess at how many teams would go after James ?

and there ends the debate.


People need to stop looking at future HOFs as if they were playing in their prime. Ray Lewis at age 28 is arguably the best player in the NFL. Ray Lewis at age 34 is not as good as Bradie James at age 28.

I know it, NFL GMs know it, and deep down inside most in here know it.

Why on earth does it even matter who is better? If we were interested in Ray Lewis it is not because we are looking to replace Bradie James. The reason we would have any interest in Ray Lewis is to fill a hole at the OTHER MLB position. Who cares who is better between the two, we would want both of them to be good.

 

[Rampage]

Seems clear to me.


1) Ray and Bradie play the same position. Sure, Ray could play WILB, but that is not his strength. Why pay someone all that money then put him in a position that does not maximize his success (see Zach Thomas).


2) More importantly, Ray and Bradie not only play the same position, they also hold the same position in the locker room. James is already on record that he doesn't want any more egos (ie superstar vets) brought on to the team. Both believe and talk like they are leaders. But Ray is the PROVEN leader, James is a Brian Stewart leader. He yaps a lot, but no one listens. Plus he is insecure, unwilling to allow another "expert" brought in to improve the team, afraid it would undermine his authority/expose him. Ray and Bradie will not co-exist very well, we all know how much James likes to whine to the media.

if we draft a real NT than both would be maximized. so we should sign a 34 year old ILB and than trade the only other ILB we have? you're acting kinda batty right now.