Replace all the offensive coaches, but keep Garrett?

[cml750]

Well, I didn't know it was possible but the Cowboys future is more bleaker than ever. How many years will Jerry waste on his pet clown project??

 

[ChooChoo73]

Well, I didn't know it was possible but the Cowboys future is more bleaker than ever. How many years will Jerry waste on his pet clown project??

However long Romo plays.

 

[cml750]

However long Romo plays.

Sad that Romo has been saddled with Wade & Garrett throughout most of his tenure as a starter. We were extremely lucky to get a QB as good as Romo especially the way got him. His talent will end up being wasted on piss poor head coaches.

 

[ChooChoo73]

Sad that Romo has been saddled with Wade & Garrett throughout most of his tenure as a starter. We were extremely lucky to get a QB as good as Romo especially the way got him. His talent will end up being wasted on piss poor head coaches.

I agree with you mostly. Garrett has been learning as he goes on Romo's time which sucks. The one thing I feel Romo should have adjusted to is his showing up to camp carrying more pounds than he should. I sense that his disk issue is weight affected and I believe he needs to shed a few as he ages.

This is just the eyeball test for me and easily could be wrong. I would just feel better seeing him lose a few to help his back. Otherwise, I am with you.

 

[khiladi]

you are way over evaluating this. I don't garrett is that smart to pull strings like he is. a lot goes to Jerry the GM. for example the Callahan to OC was purely a Jerry move, Garrett opposed it and its well written about last year with a final meeting in Jerry's airplane....which later didn't work out and garrett took over and brushed it as an organizational change to make things more efficient (to satisfy the media pundits). now, jerry doesn't want to admit so he is leaving Callahan with his title, reduced responsibility. Linehan is a garrett recommended hire, because of their past relationship and as much as garrett may have wanted to give him title of OC, with Callahan there, he couldn't. Jerry is the cause of a lot of this mess.

Houck was also a jerry move, because he signed a bunch of crap told houck to make them into great football players and when he couldn't he assumed its the coaches fault for not turning his shiit to filet mignon. so he brough Callahan in to fix it and that's where Callahan succeeded and should have stayed. when he focused back on the OL, our running game got much better as opposed to when he was the OC.

Your stories trip me up. So Linehan is a Garrett hire, because of the past relationship and Houck isn't, when Houck was coaching in Miami with Garrett in the same offense that Garrett is essentially running now with the Cowboys, just a crappier version.

Not only that Houck runs a power-blocking scheme. And Callahan brought in the zone-blocking scheme, so whose idea was that? You know essentially he best part of the Cowboys improvement on offense.

 

[dcstands4]

All new coaches

It took you 3 months to figure out you didn't like this?

 

[cml750]

I agree with you mostly. Garrett has been learning as he goes on Romo's time which sucks. The one thing I feel Romo should have adjusted to is his showing up to camp carrying more pounds than he should. I sense that his disk issue is weight affected and I believe he needs to shed a few as he ages.

This is just the eyeball test for me and easily could be wrong. I would just feel better seeing him lose a few to help his back. Otherwise, I am with you.

As a person who has had two different ruptured disc that required surgery to repair, I do not believe that weight has a whole lot to do with it. With my first ruptured disc, I was running 3 - 5 miles several times a week. I was in terrific shape and very trim yet I started having back problems. My second back issue, different disc seven years later, I weighed more than I did but was not overweight. My back problems can be traced back to the first real job I had which required a lot of lifting. I did not have any issues while doing the lifting at the time but the repetitive motion ended causing problems that manifested themselves years later. I can see where an extremely obese person could have back problems just carrying their own weight around but Romo is not nor ever has been obese.

BTW- my history with back problems makes me extremely skeptical Romo can return 100%. I can say from experience, I am not near the man I used to be before back problems and I do not get hit by 300 lbs. men for a living. Some people return 100% from back surgeries however I think they are the exception not the rule. I really hope Romo is an exception.

 

[ChooChoo73]

As a person who has had two different ruptured disc that required surgery to repair, I do not believe that weight has a whole lot to do with it. With my first ruptured disc, I was running 3 - 5 miles several times a week. I was in terrific shape and very trim yet I started having back problems. My second back issue, different disc seven years later, I weighed more than I did but was not overweight. My back problems can be traced back to the first real job I had which required a lot of lifting. I did not have any issues while doing the lifting at the time but the repetitive motion ended causing problems that manifested themselves years later. I can see where an extremely obese person could have back problems just carrying their own weight around but Romo is not nor ever has been obese.

BTW- my history with back problems makes me extremely skeptical Romo can return 100%. I can say from experience, I am not near the man I used to be before back problems and I do not get hit by 300 lbs. men for a living. Some people return 100% from back surgeries however I think they are the exception not the rule. I really hope Romo is an exception.

I feel for you bro. I had a herniated disk myself and know too much about these as well. I don't suggest Romo is too heavy personally, just that as he ages in nfl years, and continues to rely on his escapability, his weight and flex. Will need to change a little.

Love the guy. I think we are lucky to have him. I want him doing everything he can to carry this team and he has too. He goes down early and we are staring at a very high pick.

 

[cml750]

I feel for you bro. I had a herniated disk myself and know too much about these as well. I don't suggest Romo is too heavy personally, just that as he ages in nfl years, and continues to rely on his escapability, his weight and flex. Will need to change a little.

Love the guy. I think we are lucky to have him. I want him doing everything he can to carry this team and he has too. He goes down early and we are staring at a very high pick.

I agree!!!!

 

[theSHOW]

In 2013, the Cowboys ranked:

5th in offensive scoring

26th in defensive scoring
32nd in overall defense

That's the telling stat. What I do expect to see more of in 2014 is running the ball on 3rd and 1. I expect to see smart clockmanship. With all these great coaching hires Garrett needs to make sure that the Game is Managed. That is his only concern now.

 

[cml750]

That's the telling stat. What I do expect to see more of in 2014 is running the ball on 3rd and 1. I expect to see smart clockmanship. With all these great coaching hires Garrett needs to make sure that the Game is Managed. That is his only concern now.

I will keep my fingers crossed that Garrett finally figures out how to manage the clock and game but I have serious doubts. I would love nothing more for Garrett to make me look bad for all the complaining I do about him. I will proudly eat a large helping of crow if he finally figures it out!

 

[theSHOW]

I will keep my fingers crossed that Garrett finally figures out how to manage the clock and game but I have serious doubts. I would love nothing more for Garrett to make me look bad for all the complaining I do about him. I will proudly eat a large helping of crow if he finally figures it out!

You certainly have the right to complain. It is a fact that he has mismanaged away a win or two each year as HC. I won't eat crow if he figures out how to do this. I expect him to understand, after all he is a Princeton Man. I like the energy JG brings to the table. I am a fan of him succeeding.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Your stories trip me up. So Linehan is a Garrett hire, because of the past relationship and Houck isn't, when Houck was coaching in Miami with Garrett in the same offense that Garrett is essentially running now with the Cowboys, just a crappier version.

Not only that Houck runs a power-blocking scheme. And Callahan brought in the zone-blocking scheme, so whose idea was that? You know essentially he best part of the Cowboys improvement on offense.

houck was also a Jerry/Garrett hire. Houck was here before garrett with a the previous regimes and had relationships with Jerry.... however, letting houck go (yeah retired!!), was a jerry move because he couldn't turn shiet into filet mignon for jerry.

 

[khiladi]

houck was also a Jerry/Garrett hire. Houck was here before garrett with a the previous regimes and had relationships with Jerry.... however, letting houck go (yeah retired!!), was a jerry move because he couldn't turn shiet into filet mignon for jerry.

So a Garrett hire, right? You do realize that the reason they brought in Linehan was because they don't want to change the whole passing offense, cause Callahan is a West Coast guy. And they only did that once Linehan was scrapped from Detroit, otherwise Callahan was going to retain play-calling duties.

But they also they don't want to have a set back in the OL and running attack which is why Jerry didn't let Callahan interview in Baltimore. Either way , they have totally scrapped Garrett as a play-caller cause he sucks. And Callahan still remains and Garrett is getting pushed farther and farther away from the offense and made to wander the sidelines with no real job.

 

[Wolfpack]

Garrett is getting pushed farther and farther away from the offense and made to wander the sidelines with no real job.

Jason is in charge of clapping, butt slapping and answering the direct line from down from Coach Jones. It's just like Al Davis had it set up.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So a Garrett hire, right? You do realize that the reason they brought in Linehan was because they don't want to change the whole passing offense, cause Callahan is a West Coast guy. And they only did that once Linehan was scrapped from Detroit, otherwise Callahan was going to retain play-calling duties.

But they also they don't want to have a set back in the OL and running attack which is why Jerry didn't let Callahan interview in Baltimore. Either way , they have totally scrapped Garrett as a play-caller cause he sucks. And Callahan still remains and Garrett is getting pushed farther and farther away from the offense and made to wander the sidelines with no real job.

so you came to that conclusion all by yourself? so why is jerry keeping garrett around then? garrett is not part of defense. garrett is not part of offense. but conspiracy theorists say he was the reason wade was fired and that he is manipulating Jerry. yet you say exactly the opposite. could we get the two groups to chat and get back to the rest of us!!!!

 

[Doomsday101]

There are usually around 5 or 6 new head coaches every year, and then you have to figure there are another 5 or 6 who are on the hot seat for the next year. Most coaches get at least 3 years, so basically you have 15-18 coaches who are basically rotated in and out over the course of three years. That's at least half the NFL. The other half of the coaches in the league are usually accomplishing something...

Garrett somehow has managed to come out of that unscathed despite not accomplishing ANYTHING...

Garrett is in his last year under contract and despite the backing and support from jerry he does not have a new or extended on contract. So anything being said today means little in terms of what may or may not happen after the season is done.

 

[khiladi]

so you came to that conclusion all by yourself? so why is jerry keeping garrett around then? garrett is not part of defense. garrett is not part of offense. but conspiracy theorists say he was the reason wade was fired and that he is manipulating Jerry. yet you say exactly the opposite. could we get the two groups to chat and get back to the rest of us!!!!

Maybe because Jason is Jerry's golden boy of proving the doubters wrong. So tell me why are you arguing that Jerry is hamstringing Garrett, despite keeping him around? So now your not blaming Jerry for Garrett's failures and he's keeping him because he thinks he's brilliant? Got to love the Garrett homerism and their lack of consistency.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Maybe because Jason is Jerry's golden boy of proving the doubters wrong. So tell me why are you arguing that Jerry is hamstringing Garrett, despite keeping him around? So now your not blaming Jerry for Garrett's failures and he's keeping him because he thinks he's brilliant? Got to love the Garrett homerism and their lack of consistency.

?? ok, you are confusing matters.

on the one hand, you say garrett sucks and needs replaced.
on the other hand you say garrett is fooling everyone and pulling a fast one on jerry.
then you say garrett is nothing but a puppet because he has no control over offense and no control over defense...


so which is it?

why is garrett jerry's golden boy?

and tell me one coach that Jerry hasn't hamstrung one way or the other? including the great bill parcells and at the end jimmy Johnson.

I am blaming jerry for everything cowboys are experiencing today. he has made a mess of things. we are turning into if not already, the oakland raiders when al davis was in charge.

I am not a garrett fan nor a hater. if you are, then you are going to argue based on emotions and which side you have chosen (yes, there are garrett supporters as well). you have to see the problem for what it is before you can fix it, else, the cast may change, the problems remain the same (oh, doesn't that sound familiar).

 

[khiladi]

I said Garrett was fooling everybody and pulling a fast one on Jerry? Uh, when...

Jerry knows Garrett is in over his head, so in order to save his ego, he's surrounding him by experienced coaches, while moving him away from actual coaching. Jason can't even tough his baby anymore, the offense, which he had full control over for six years.

If Garrett wasn't Jerry's pet project, he would have been fired long ago, like Wade, Bryan Stewart, Skip Peete, Rob Ruan and others were long ago. He is the golden boy, because it was meant to make Jerry look like a genius for seeing in Garrett the next Tom Landry while he also gets to have his hands involved in the whole escapade. Then he can show the world that the SBs were outside the shadow of Jimmy Johnson.

You don't find it ironic that the worst coach of the bunch, John Garrett wasn't given the old firing move, but the "he wants to pursue other opportunities' PR move.