Replacing Allen more pressing than replacing Pettiti

[fortdick]

I have read a lot here about our most pressing need is to upgrade at RT, but I vehemently disagree! Larry Allen is probably one of the best linemen to ever play the game. That being said, he is at the end of his career and we have no replacement should he retire, get cut, or go down to injury. Pettiti struggled this year, and as a rookie, he should have. He was no where near as much a liability as Tucker on the left side, however (Remember the Skins game!). Rob has room to grow at the RT position and I for one would like to see him get the chance.

With Flo coming back next year, Tucker can switch to the right side and compete with Pettiti for RT. Columbo might be in the mix after an off season of strength and conditioning. But as far as LG goes, we don't have any prospect right now of filling that hole. Peterman and Gurode are not going to make it there.

Everyone talking about taking a tackle in the first round has to stop and look at the situation. Pettiti has a brighter future than Allen. Not that Allen isn't better at this time, but year after next, will that be the case?

If we don't address LG this off season, we will be hurting real bad in 2007.

 

[canters]

I agree, LA ain't the player he was, but he is serviceable,,,certainly better than any guard we have. That being said, he might have to renegoitate his deal to come back. If he is cut, or leaves, he will have a problem that I doubt we can overcome this year. I think we will draft a RT either first or second, and a inside LB or FS with the other pick. Maybe we can find someone in FA, or in later rounds, but we have had mixed results withn FA, and NO luck drafting OL lately.

I bet he signs a cap friendly deal and plays this year.

 

[Hiero]

just by the title, i really gotta say you are out of your mind.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Well if you take a OT in the draft...what is preventing you from looking at the other linemen on your team (if you have Flozell, Rob, Tucker and draft pick) and seeing if one of those guys can be moved to compete with Peterson at Guard.

I would think it would be easier to move an OT to Guard then the other way around.

 

[silver]

pettiti and or tucker can both compete at guard where they may be better suited at since neither one has the quick feet to play outside

 

[DLCassidy]

Well if you take a OT in the draft...what is preventing you from looking at the other linemen on your team (if you have Flozell, Rob, Tucker and draft pick) and seeing if one of those guys can be moved to compete with Peterson at Guard.

I would think it would be easier to move an OT to Guard then the other way around.

That's true- Tucker hasn't failed at guard yet and he did play guard in college. That's a gr....er......no. He still sucks.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

pettiti and or tucker can both compete at guard where they may be better suited at since neither one has the quick feet to play outside

Tucker seems to be a bit quicker than Pettiti. It's not like Guard doesn't require some mobility, just less agility in space. Pettiti looks pretty slow, do you really want him to be pulling?

 

[silver]

Pettiti looks pretty slow, do you really want him to be pulling?

i think of him as a new version of kevin gogan who was able to survive a number of years playing guard after breaking in as a tackle. you can always use other guys like al johnson or gurode to pull.

 

[TheHustler]

Peterman and Gurode would be fine at LG.

 

[silver]

I don't think Peterman has a future here, he's been inactive for 2 years now.

 

[Fletch]

just by the title, i really gotta say you are out of your mind.

I don't think so Hiero. Just watching Larry Allen walk looks painful enough. He is about as mobile as a 3-legged Rhino. Nuff said.

He's long in the tooth and making way too much money. He made the last two Pro Bowls on name alone. And that's sad.

 

[Sarge]

just by the title, i really gotta say you are out of your mind.

It's all about the $. They are paying Larry Allen T money to begin with which is outrageous.

From a $ standpoint, the original post makes a lot of sense.

LA is a better blocker than Pettiti, but when it comes to getting what you are paying for, perhaps replacing LA is a more pressing need that replacing Petitti.

 

[fortdick]

Sarge and Fletch, thanks for defending me against a charge of idiocy!

 

[Hiero]

heh. just my opinion of course. If Peterman had ever played a snap and showed he can be a good starter, i'd be singing a different tune. but the guy has had some injury problems in the past, and still has never played. If we were to draft a guy like Deuce Lutui or Max Jean-Gillesin the 2nd rd. I would not mind clearing a space for him. The bigger concern imo is actually Rivera. Rivera can't do a damn thing, at least Larry doesnt get pushed back.

 

[Bluefin]

Pettiti struggled this year, and as a rookie, he should have. He was no where near as much a liability as Tucker on the left side, however (Remember the Skins game!).

I don't remember any apposing players or anyone from our organization coming out after games and praising Rob Petitti for his performance.

Both happened for Torrin Tucker and he was playing the hardest position on the line with no prior experience at the position.

No, Tuck isn't ready to be a full-time starter at left tackle and he may never be, but he at least proved he can be a good back-up to Hotel Adams.

Petitti, despite playing left tackle in college at Pittsburgh, was a complete liability whenever asked to block typically slower strongside ends by himself.

He should and had better improve with an off-season of training at the Ranch because he should be in a fight to make the Cowboys as a back-up right tackle.

A known starter should be signed via free agency or the collegiate draft, IMO.

I don't think Peterman has a future here, he's been inactive for 2 years now.

Honestly.

If the Cowboys were at all impressed with Stephen Peterman, why did they get into a bidding war to sign an over 30 veteran guard last off-season?

The word is Peterman just hasn't picked up on the pass protection.

And it isn't like the Cowboys' line was all-world in this department last season.

If Peterman can't get onto the field when the line is at best described as shaky, where will that leave him if the unit is finally improved over the spring?

It's all about the $. They are paying Larry Allen T money to begin with which is outrageous.

And that's the bottom line.

I expect the Joneses will attempt to keep LA by asking him to restructure his contract, but I've no idea if his pride will allow him to do that.

And as much as I respect what Allen's done for us, it may simply be time to part company and get younger at left guard.

Not a fun spot for Jerry to be in.

 

[Ashwynn]

Tucker seems to be a bit quicker than Pettiti. It's not like Guard doesn't require some mobility, just less agility in space. Pettiti looks pretty slow, do you really want him to be pulling?

I could see JJ stopping before a linebacker and saying "Hang on a sec, my guard will be right here to block you, 1 sec." that would work, I suppose JJ could even say please!

I dunno, just created a funny image in my head of a slow petteti trying to pull and JJ getting their befoe his guard. That would be funny and sad at the same time.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't think Peterman has a future here, he's been inactive for 2 years now.

Well, concerning 2004........Peterman tore the ACL and MCL in his right knee in the final preseason game against Kansas City (9/2) and was placed on injured reserve the next day. He underwent surgery on Sept. 7 to repair the injury and spent the entire season rehabilitating the knee.
So 2005 was basically his rookie year.

 

[AmericasTeam]

I don't think Peterman has a future here, he's been inactive for 2 years now.

I do not understand all the Peterman talk. I do not get to watch all the Cowboys games because of where I live, but in preseason he seemed to do very well. Parcells has commented that Peterman's only problem is that he is not versatile when Rivera went down with the injury. Therefore he has not played, should we expect him to push Allen out of a starting job already? Maybe next year?

 

[eduncan22]

I agree, LA ain't the player he was, but he is serviceable,,,certainly better than any guard we have. That being said, he might have to renegoitate his deal to come back. If he is cut, or leaves, he will have a problem that I doubt we can overcome this year. I think we will draft a RT either first or second, and a inside LB or FS with the other pick. Maybe we can find someone in FA, or in later rounds, but we have had mixed results withn FA, and NO luck drafting OL lately.

I bet he signs a cap friendly deal and plays this year.

That, my friend, is a ridiculous statement to make. Serviceable? Allen is the best player we have on our line. Has been, and will be next season.

Just who do you think we should replace him with? How may 10 time Pro Bowl, All Pro, First Ballot Hall of Famer, OG's are we gonna be able to find this offseason?

7 Million is cheap.

 

[ddh33]

I'm surprised at the venom spewed at Peterman. He might be awful, but I don't see how any fans know that yet. I thought he was solid in preseason. I wouldn't hold it against him too much that Larry Allen was above him.

A lot of fans seem to hold it against him that Peterman isn't "versatile". But we just found out that Peterman was struggling with an ankle at the end of the season. And I've got to think that if he was that bad Bill would have cut him. Instead, Parcells cuts Noll. That may not sound like much, but at least Noll was versatile and was basically the backup tackle. At the least, that tells me that Parcells isn't ready to give up on him.