Report: Titans DONE with Vince Young, Ready to Move On

[Nav22]

(Got this from the scout.com board... thanks to "CowboysarebetterthanPC")

The Nashville Tennessean reports Vince Young on Monday "indicated to those around him he didn't want to play football any more." The Titans may be planning to move on without him.

This isn't the first time we've heard this from Young. And "there are indications" the team is ready to move forward with Kerry Collins, even when Young gets healthy. And that assumes Young even wants his job back. Young's mother, rightly concerned, pleaded for people to give her son "space" and "love." But it won't be so simple. A psychologist reported Young was "extremely depressed" and one wonders when he'll see the field again. Sep. 9 - 10:43 pm et

Source: Nashville Tennessean

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I knew the "explanation" about his whereabouts the other night were BS. The guy's never had what it takes mentally to make it at this level, on or off the field.

From the 6 score on the Wonderlic to his ridiculously thin skin (contemplating retirement after his rookie year, hurt deeply by his critics last year, etc.), I figured it was just a matter of time before his career as an NFL starting QB flamed out.

He had a nice W/L record as a starter, but even the worst QBs can beat mediocre opponents when they have a terrific D and run game to support them. His lack of ability as a passer was always going to hold the Titans back from being a real contender, and I truly believe they're better off without him.

The most points the Titans scored in any game last season... came in the 1 game that Kerry Collins was the starter. The only downside is that Kerry won't sell tickets and jerseys like Vince did.

 

[Jake0]

hmm.. wow.. pretty crazy stuff..

Always wanted to see what vince young would be like in an offense built like ours, go to receiver, elite TE safety net, good running game, beastly OL, (they only have the last 2) but I guess we won't get to see that... anytime soon at least.

 

[theebs]

Somewhere merril Hodge is running around yelling I told you so.

If vince young goes crazy hodge may need to join the witness protection program.

and finally if this is true the titans have blown another top 10 pick.

 

[Kangaroo]

(Got this from the scout.com board... thanks to "CowboysarebetterthanPC")

The Nashville Tennessean reports Vince Young on Monday "indicated to those around him he didn't want to play football any more." The Titans may be planning to move on without him.

This isn't the first time we've heard this from Young. And "there are indications" the team is ready to move forward with Kerry Collins, even when Young gets healthy. And that assumes Young even wants his job back. Young's mother, rightly concerned, pleaded for people to give her son "space" and "love." But it won't be so simple. A psychologist reported Young was "extremely depressed" and one wonders when he'll see the field again. Sep. 9 - 10:43 pm et

Source: Nashville Tennessean

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I knew the "explanation" about his whereabouts the other night were BS. The guy's never had what it takes mentally to make it at this level, on or off the field.

From the 6 score on the Wonderlic to his ridiculously thin skin (contemplating retirement after his rookie year, hurt deeply by his critics last year, etc.), I figured it was just a matter of time before his career as an NFL starting QB flamed out.

He had a nice W/L record as a starter, but even the worst QBs can beat mediocre opponents when they have a terrific D and run game to support them. His lack of ability as a passer was always going to hold the Titans back from being a real contender, and I truly believe they're better off without him.

The most points the Titans scored in any game last season... came in the 1 game that Kerry Collins was the starter. The only downside is that Kerry won't sell tickets and jerseys like Vince did.

He was just as overated as Vick coming out funny how the guys like that struggle in a more structure offense. I am not surprised he is turning into a big bust his throwing was a major concern funny how Houston looks so much smarter for taking Mario over VY

 

[Kangaroo]

hmm.. wow.. pretty crazy stuff..

Always wanted to see what vince young would be like in an offense built like ours, go to receiver, elite TE safety net, good running game, beastly OL, (they only have the last 2) but I guess we won't get to see that... anytime soon at least.

You realize the Head Coach did not want VY drafted Floyd Reecse (who is now gone) and Bud Adams who had a lot to do with VY being drafted. Bud is a cheap sob and saw dollar signs

 

[WoodysGirl]

(I really hate excerpts)

Young’s mother says Titans QB needs ‘love and support’

By JIM WYATT • Staff Writer • September 9, 2008

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Felicia Young has seen her son experience the ups and downs that go with being a football star.

On Monday night, she saw 25-year-old Vince Young sink to his lowest point. It ended with Coach Jeff Fisher calling Metro Police to search for her son for over four hours, and opened the biggest window yet into the emotional and troubled side of the Titans quarterback.


A psychologist was among those who met with Young at his Brentwood home on Monday, and what she concluded and told team officials led to a bizarre, 24-hour period that ended just after midnight Tuesday morning. That’s when Fisher met with Young and police at Baptist Sports Park.

Felicia Young said her son has grown weary of all the negativity he faces as an NFL star. On Monday, he indicated to those around him he didn’t want to play football any more.

“Vince has gone through a whole lot as a young person,’’ Felicia Young said. “And I think he has done pretty well up to this point. But it is hard, all he is going through right now. He’s hurting inside and out.

“But he will be fine if people are prayerful and help my baby boy out. He is a young man. He just needs a lot of love and support.’’

When the frantic search for Young ended, Fisher and the Titans said the incident had been blown out of proportion. So did some of Young’s friends and family.

But the events that led up to it all — and the fact Fisher called police — showed just how much concern the team has regarding the mental state of Young, who suffered a left knee injury in Sunday’s season opening win over the Jaguars. Young opted not to get an MRI of the knee on Monday; an MRI on Tuesday revealed he has a sprained MCL that could keep him out anywhere from 2-4 weeks.

The Titans, meanwhile, were making plans to go on without him.

“In a major city police department we have calls like this all the time about people who fear for their loved ones … the difference here being Vince Young’s notoriety,’’ Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron said. “When the police department gets such calls, you have to take them seriously. You never know how these issues will ultimately turn out. The concerns of (Monday) night appear to be unfounded.’’



Call for help

The Titans had concerns about Young even before late Monday night.

After Young balked at having the MRI on Monday, Fisher went out and talked to him at his Brentwood home, spending over an hour with him. The Titans also sent a psychologist, Dr. Sheila Peters, and Tina Tuggle, the team’s Director of Player Development, to meet with Young to try and encourage him.

The psychologist said Young was extremely depressed and expressed concerns to the team about Young’s safety. Later, Young left the house and sped off in his Mercedes Benz without his cell phone. He couldn’t be found for some time, which prompted a phone call to Fisher.

Fisher then called police, who began searching for Young. When Young was finally tracked down, he met with Fisher and police at Baptist Sports Park and eventually went home.

“The people that are closest to Vince inform(ed) us that he had left his house in a state of mind that had them concerned; and that he was unreachable, having left his cell phone at the house,’’ Fisher said in a statement. “(Later) it was determined that those initial concerns by his friends and family were unfounded and he returned home without incident.’’

According to police, Young had a handgun in the glove compartment of his vehicle, but it was not loaded and Aaron said officers had no concerns about Young trying to harm himself. Young was not charged with any crime because it’s not a violation of the law in Tennessee to transport an unloaded firearm with no ammunition in a motor vehicle.

“The fact the gun was in the glove compartment and was unloaded did not present an issue for the officers,’’ Aaron said. “There was no ammunition in the car. The gun was unloaded. The slide was back in a safe position, and it was in the glove box.’’



Young’s whereabouts

A friend of Young’s said on Tuesday the quarterback was with him watching Monday Night Football in Steve McNair’s office in Nashville when police were searching for Young, and neither had any idea anyone was looking for him. Earlier, the two had stopped by Nuttin’ but Wings on Jefferson Street and exchanged autographs for free wings, Raymond White said.

“We sat around watching football and eating chicken wings,’’ said White “Everything was fine. There was no problem.’’

Agent Major Adams, who represents Young, said on Tuesday the quarterback was shocked at all the attention the story generated on Tuesday.

“He understands that people care about him and all that; that is the good part of it,’’ Adams said. “But to have it all blow up like it was … Vince feels like he can’t go anywhere without people knowing where he is 24 hours a day. That’s the only negative part of it. He’s fine.’’



Point of no return?

The events of the last 48 hours, however, have clearly left a lasting mark on both Young and the Titans.

On Sunday, before Young was injured against the Jaguars, he initially refused to re-enter the game after throwing an interception and getting booed by fans. His decision to ignore the team’s request for him to have the MRI created even more friction between the player and the team, and indications last night were the Titans have turned the team over to back-up quarterback Kerry Collins.

Even when Young returns from his injury, he might not get his job back.

The Titans believe Young’s injury is one that will keep him out anywhere from 2-4 weeks.

Then there’s the question about whether Young is interested in returning, something he mentioned to those who were with him on Monday.

“What would you think, if you were tired of being ridiculed and persecuted and talked about and not being treated very well, what would you do? What kind of decision would you make?’’ Felicia Young asked. “He may not want to deal with it (all), but you have to get to that point before you make that decision first.

“But we’re not talking about football right now. We’re talking about what would make him happy, and that is the most important thing.

“… You don’t want people to be hurting like he is. But it is a growing-up process, and he will eventually come out like gold no matter what. But Vince is going to be OK. We are just going to try and give him some space.”

Reach Jim Wyatt at 259-8015 or jwyatt@tennessean.com

 

[Hypnotoad]

This is a sad turn of events.

The blame lies completely on Merril Hoge.

 

[ZeroClub]

I'm sorry to hear that he's in such distress.

 

[stealth]

Vince has it, he just does. I am glad he doesn't play here but he has it. Only a football "it" though, vince can't do a damn thing else. If he is stupid enough to think he can make it outside of football, let him try.


Good athletes have all the desired skills in a good manual laborer, and I need some holes dug.

 

[Walker]

Many people forget that even football players can go thru depression. Playing football making millions does not immune anyone from being people like the rest of us. He may have lost some passion of the game and it just makes it that more difficult to play when you don't want too anymore. He did take classes this past offseason, so he may have just missed being one of the kids etc. It does not help to have the weapons the Titans provide at WR either . Nevertheless I wish him the best of luck on what he decides to do and stay out of trouble. I hear the Texans calling, they sure can't get any worse :.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I was wrong about Romo, but I had him and Leinart right from the start.



-Would he be happier at WR

 

[ZB9]

LMAO "done" with him? Talk about blowing a cut and paste opinion or editorial article out of proportion.

OP, dont be a sheep believing everything the sensationalized media says. Have the ability to read between the lines yourself. Just because an opinion appears in a newspaper article or on TV doesnt necessarily mean that opinion is fact. Do you know the difference between opinion and fact?

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

The Titans should have just had him ride the bench for 3 years or so first. I've heard it from numerous QBs who had to go in their rookie year that it's handling the downs that makes it so hard and that in hindsight, it might have been better to wait.

 

[bbgun]

Excuse the pun, but he's too young to be done with football. I hope this is just an immaturity issue and not "substance" related.

 

[alby]

I'm a HUGE Longhorns fan... but what are they feeding these kids in Austin?

 

[Nav22]

OP, dont be a sheep believing everything the sensationalized media says. Have the ability to read between the lines yourself. Just because an opinion appears in a newspaper article or on TV doesnt necessarily mean that opinion is fact. Do you know the difference between opinion and fact?

I copied and pasted everything excluding my editorializing underneath the article. Even the thread title was copied and pasted.

I'm assuming since you're from Austin, the reality that Vince isn't cut out for the NFL is hard to handle for you.

It's year 3, the "show me somethin'" year, and the bum has shown zero growth as an NFL passer. On top of that, it's painfully obvious he doesn't have what it takes upstairs to make it as a starting NFL QB.

PM me your home address and I'll send you a box of tissues. You'll especially need them when you see how much more productive the Titans offense becomes with Kerry Collins behind center.

 

[ZB9]

I copied and pasted everything excluding my editorializing underneath the article. Even the thread title was copied and pasted.

I'm assuming since you're from Austin, the reality that Vince isn't cut out for the NFL is hard to handle for you.

It's year 3, the "show me somethin'" year, and the bum has shown zero growth as an NFL passer. On top of that, it's painfully obvious he doesn't have what it takes upstairs to make it as a starting NFL QB.

PM me your home address and I'll send you a box of tissues. You'll especially need them when you see how much more productive the Titans offense becomes with Kerry Collins behind center.

he certainly has a lot of maturing to do. No doubt about that

and like most 3rd year QBs, he has a lot of improving to do on the field as a QB

but I was responding to your assertion that "Tennessee is done with him because of this situation". That is a ridiculous overreaction at this point regardless of what some writer stated in an article.

 

[dmq]

First Pacman, now Vince Young.

 

[ZB9]

First Pacman, now Vince Young.

LMAO what? Young hasnt broken any laws

yea I think my previous comment about overreaction was pretty accurate

 

[Nav22]

I was responding to your assertion that "Tennessee is done with him because of this situation".

Substitute "because of this situation" and insert "because of his lack of progress as a passer, and lack of the mental makeup to succeed as a franchise QB" and revisit the statement. Doesn't sound so outrageous anymore, does it?

Whether or not they're 100% done with him NOW is pretty irrelevant. As in, if they're not 100% done with him now, they will be sooner than later. It's clear that they're running out of patience.

It's year 3 and he's shown no growth as a passer and no maturation as an NFL starting QB. He's not making a quantum leap anytime soon. They've tried to build a contender around an immature thin-skinned kid who happens to be one of the very worst passers in the NFL (among non-rookie starters) and it's not working... not even with an outstanding defense and run game. He'll hold them back for as long as he is their starting QB, and I'm sure the coaching staff realizes this.

But he's a high-priced high draft pick who sells tickets and jersey sales... so therein lies the quandary. They didn't call Michael Vick a "coach killer" for nothing.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Titans offense will be in better hands with Kerry Collins behind center. None.