Rob Phillips - What's Next for TE?

RustyBourneHorse

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I would love to trade our 1st this year for multiple picks next draft. Any way you slice it, we are not going to be super bowl contenders in 2021. Be nice if we could play smart for once and get draft assets.

Idk about Super Bowl contenders in 2021, but I think we can position ourselves, if we draft well on defence, to be able to at least get a pretty nice run in 2021. I'd love to get an extra 1st round next year if we can. That would be super helpful! I'd love to get a later 1st, 2nd, and a 1st next year for our 10th. That would be a GOLDEN trade! Especially given the defencive players available in this draft.
 

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I think Schultz has earned the starting job, but I like Jarwin as the more athletic guy. I’d like to see both utilized.
To me..

Neither is a threat to throttle a defense like the top TEs on our competition.

Look at Philly or Washington or the Giants.

Platooning Shultz and Jarwin is not ideal as neither is good at blocking for Zeke and pressuring the defense and hurting the coverages.

They merely act as safety valve choices when Dak is pressured and needs to get rid of the ball.

Moore has never showed he can scheme the TE into the attack in an exploited approach.

He has trouble just using our 3 WRs well. Forget Zeke out of the backfield much less Pollard. Moore is a joke using all the weapons well.

Pitts in this year's draft if we could get him. He will be gone by 10 but worth a trade up if possible.

With the injury to Dak an unknown and the uncertainty with the OL..

Dak is going to be throwing quickly to avoid the coming pressure. Since Dak is going to get his 2nd Tag and a big chunk of the cap..

I think Dallas has little choices if they are going to improve in the won-loss.

I know everybody will want defense in this draft..and that will happen with the rest of the picks.

But as the other teams make trades for
drafting QBs..

offense plums are where we could find a blue chip guy like Pitts. Instant Dak addition.

Will help move the chains..control TOP..revive Zeke as a weapon blocking..attack underneath with CeeDee in the slot..

Just my 2 cents.

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Okay, so, I went ahead and did a mock draft on First-Pick with a trade down to see how to keep the draft defence heavy while drafting Pitts. Below is what I came up with (as is standard for my mock drafts, each will carry a video, height/weight, and a brief explanation). In this draft, I got a trade down with the Jaguars who gave me their 25th, 33rd, and 45th overall picks.

Round 1 Pick 25 (JAX): Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida (A+)
, Kyle Pitts 6'6" and 240 lbs. He is an excellent TE.

Round 2 Pick 1 (JAX): Trevon Moehrig, FS/SS, TCU (A-)
, Trevon Moehrig 6'2" and 203 lbs, one of the best safeties in the draft. He fills one of the 3 biggest needs that our team has.

Round 2 Pick 12: Jay Tufele, DT, USC (A-)
, 6'3 and 305 lbs, Massive DT who I consider to be the best DT in the draft. He fixes another of our 3 biggest needs.

Round 2 Pick 13 (JAX): Joseph Ossai, ILB/OLB, Texas (A-)
, 6'4" and 253 lbs. Joseph Ossai is a top LB, and fixes the third of what I see as our 3 biggest needs in the draft. Massive LB, and he stops the run well. Oh, and he hits hard.

Round 3 Pick 11: Richie Grant, FS/SS, Central Florida (A)
, Richie Grant, 6'0 and 194 lbs. Got an absolute steal here in the simulator. He's one of the other top safeties in the draft. We would go from having safety as one of our biggest weaknesses to one of our biggest strengths with Moehrig and Grant back there along with Wilson. What a safety combo that'd be!

Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Greg Newsome, CB, Northwestern (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqgfF9vhXk, Greg Newsome 6'1 and 190 lbs. Solid CB who would fit well on the other side of Diggs. Builds our CB spot into a potential strength as well.

Round 4 Pick 10: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHWGJjDgd0&t=3s, Alaric Jackson 6'6" and 315 lbs. With Tyron Smith fading with his health and La'el Collins missing last season, Alaric Jackson gives us a powerful OT who would have time to develop while also being capable of starting for us. Heavily underrated OT.

Round 4 Pick 33 (COMP): Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhRmH5OgMwM, Jermar Jefferson 5'10" and 216 lbs. Underrated RB who has the look of a player who would be a nice change of pace back for Zeke and Pollard. Also, if Zeke were to get injured (hopefully he doesn't), Jefferson is a player who could start for us. He played well for Oregon State, and I'd like for him to wear a star on his helmet.

Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Camryn Bynum, CB, California (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjThom4s0gg&t=17s, Camryn Bynum 6'0" and 200 lbs. Underrated CB who gives us excellent depth. He'd give Anthony Brown a battle in camp. Diggs, Newsome, Bynum, and Brown would give us 4 solid CBs.

Round 6 Pick 8: Adetokunbo Ogundeji, DE/OLB, Notre Dame (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJ4PZ-j9H0&t=4s, Adetokunbo Ogundeji 6'4" and 269 lbs. He gives us good DE depth behind DLaw and Randy Gregory.

Round 6 Pick 41 (COMP): Tay Gowan, CB, Central Florida (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgFXD_WNt-U&t=42s, Tay Gowan 6'2" and 185 lbs. A bit more depth at CB. Never can have enough CBs.

Round 7 Pick 10: Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State (A+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B6ps78-_zA&t=112s, Warren Jackson 6'6" and 219 lbs. Massive WR who gives us a player who can handle the jump ball well.

This is how I see we could make Pitts work while still addressing the major needs that we have to address in the draft, but we'd have to basically draft in a very similar order to this imo. NOT my favourite mock draft that I've done, but we'd have to get basically this lucky for drafting Pitts to work imo. Furthermore, if we ARE going to draft Pitts, then we SHOULD trade Jarwin to try to get the best pick we can for him as he'd be redundant.



I really dont think Pitts last that long and he isnt a position of need but man he is a baller. Pitts on talent alone regardless of position is in the top 10. But if we could pull off something like that Id be down for it. The only thing that concerns me is the secondary talent after surtain, Farley maybe marginal.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/cornerbacks/
 

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There aren't. Parsons is an off-ball LB who certainly has flaws to his game and there hasn't been a corner drafted in the top 10 in the last decade who was worth the investment...hardly even any in the top 20. Here's all of the top-20 corners dating back to 2010, bold is top 10.

2010: Joe Haden, Kareem Jackson
2011: Patrick Peterson, Prince Amukamara
2012: Morris Claiborne, Stephon Gilmore, Dre Kirkpatrick
2013: Dee Milliner, DJ Hayden
2014: Justin Gilbert, Kyle Fuller\
2015: Trae Waynes, Kevin Johnson, Marcus Peters
2016: Jalen Ramsey, Eli Apple, Vernon Hargreaves
2017: Marshon Lattimore, Marlon Humphrey, Adoree Jackson
2018: Denzel Ward, Jaire Alexander
2020: Jeff Okudah, CJ Henderson, AJ Terrell, Damon Arnette

The hit rate of a guy being worth a top-10 pick at corner is what, 10%?

I tend to agree with you. I struggle to identify a defensive player who I can feel confident is worth #10. I think the demand for certain players \ positions may provide a good market for us to trade back. If the cards fall right, I think a team could make a lot of hay with multiple picks between say 17 & 55.

Of course, i would love to have the higher pick we could have had to dangle as trade bait and really get a haul.
 
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