Rob Ryan On Second Half Adjustments

Hoofbite;4298936 said:
If I'm reading Hos' post right, all of them......or most of them and the one's they did they were few.
I don't think you're reading it right.
 
Hostile;4298674 said:
"You really don't want to make many."

I think it was kind of self explanatory.

Hostile;4298847 said:
I don't feel like he did. It is a salient point that coaches see things differently than fans. Do you disagree with this?

Fans here have been screaming for 2nd half adjustments, but a coach says he doesn't make many of them and prefers not to make any, and somehow fans want to change what is working or suddenly make that a reason for every failure.

Coaching is hard. I speak from experience there. Rob Ryan is doing a good job. I wasn't keen to his hiring, but I will give the man credit.

I don't know if you are intentionally angling it this way or not. I'm hoping you just misinterpreted what he appears to be saying.

IMO, he wasn't saying anything about disliking making adjustments or being opposed to making them. In fact, he said that he usually doesn't wait until half time and makes adjustments all throughout the game.

"You really don't want to make many of them. If you don't make many of them it means you're doing a good job. We're not going to adjust on anything until we have to"

This statement appears to be more about the implications of not adjusting than it does any sort of personal stance on adjustments. I don't know if you intentionally dismissed the context of the quote in the OP or not. Based on the first of your quotes above, I'm guessing you missed it because you omitted the part of the quote that gives his entire statement context.

IMO his statement reads,

"If you're doing a good job you don't have to make adjustments so we would generally like to avoid making adjustments (implying good performance) and won't do so until the offense forces us to"

If you're not making adjustments, it's because you're winning the battle. That's a far cry from saying he flat out doesn't want to make them or prefers not to make them from some sort of inherent philosophical stance independent from what is happening on the field.

Honestly, I doubt he cares about making adjustments and is probably more concerned with why he is or is not making the adjustment. If he sees something in-game he thinks he can take advantage of and it is something that wasn't initially in the gameplan, I'd be willing to bet he'd adjust and attack that weakness. Furthermore, he'd probably get a big tent in his pants to see it work out and produce a big play for his team. OTOH, if the offense comes out and shoves his game plan right down his throat with ease on their first possession I doubt he would avoid adjusting.

"We usually don't wait 'til halftime, we adjust all during the game"

Shortly after talking about not wanting to make adjustments.

I don't think the situation is as clear cut as your quote earlier makes it.

Hostile;4298674 said:
"You really don't want to make many."

I think it was kind of self explanatory.
 
casmith07;4298948 said:
So you think we made NO adjustments in every game?

I'm asking, which game other than the Philadelphia game could a detached observer/fan have a legit argument to say "it didn't look like any adjustments were made."

No, I think they make adjustments regularly.

I was just saying that Hos' stance appears to be that Rob is firmly rooted against making them and going by that its unlikely he didn't make them, or made very few at all.
 
Hoofbite;4299004 said:
No, I think they make adjustments regularly.

I was just saying that Hos' stance appears to be that Rob is firmly rooted against making them and going by that its unlikely he didn't make them, or made very few at all.
That is not my stance.
 
"You don't want to adjust to anything until you really need to."

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Hostile;4299012 said:
That is not my stance.

The stance, as I infer, is Fans want Garret to make adjustments. Rob Ryan states he doesn't like to make adjustments and juxtaposing that people here should be up in arms that Rob Ryan is stating something Garrett detractors say they wish he would do.

Of course the Defense starts out good in the 1st and 3rd quarters and a little shakier in the 2nd and 4th (not much). the offense is better in the 2nd and 4th point wise. Of course slow first quarters and 3rd quarters seem to be the more immediate reaction to game plans and halftime adjustments.

So I don't think the stance actually works
 
Hostile;4298844 said:
I do love the debates. I also respect the opponents who can keep it in the debate and still respect each other. I don't ones who can't.

It's like the Admin of a rival forum who got banned here and comes back making accounts with homosexual usernames or racial usernames. I actually feel pity for our fans who are on that site. I don't condone racism in any fashion, nor do I go seeking controversy on rival forums. I pity them that they choose to associate with an obvious racist and homophobe when here they had better discussions and content without that kind of association at the Staff level.

I stand up for what I preach here. Many can respect it. Why should I care about those who can't?

kind of weird that you would bring this "admin" up if you dont want him to be part of the forum, kind of stirring the put, eh?
 
Conceptually, who cares if there are a bajilion adjustments before or after half time? The team has consistently over the past three games, given up long sustained and late drives to it's opponents.

Just limited to that standard, of why and why not...the Cowboys could then be 10-6 against Indianapolis, and they haven't beat anyone this season. Adjustments?:cool:
 
fifaguy;4298692 said:
Hostile;4298662 said:
"You really don't want to make many of them.
Seems like we often don't make them at all whereas our opponent does and consequently gets the better of us late in the game.
JG also makes few adjustments in my opinion and that is a problem as a whole.
 
Hoofbite;4299004 said:
No, I think they make adjustments regularly.

I was just saying that Hos' stance appears to be that Rob is firmly rooted against making them and going by that its unlikely he didn't make them, or made very few at all.

Hos took something out of context (and misquoted it to boot) to fit his stance

then he spent the rest of the thread trying to back track and building strawmen

funny thread to read:laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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