Romo and Garrett have to trust Roy and Miles more and give them shots downfield!

[21Savage]

If you look at the top offensive teams in the league this year (Saints, Colts, Chargers and Vikings... to a lesser extent the Cards), we have comparable talent at the skill positions.

But their OCs have been more adept and getting their WRs in favorable matchups. Even their RBs. But the WRs are my focus right now.

Somebody made a thread about this last week but he was absolutely right. How many times do we throw bombs to our WRs and let them try to make plays. Austin made one in Kansas city and Roy is plenty capable.

How many times did Rivers throw deep last week with Jenkins all over his man? Just take a shot and you can get a PI or your WR can make a play. And it also threatens the D and keeps them from being as aggressive in the middle of the field.

How many times do QBs like Rivers and Brees throw the ball to their guys when it seems like they might be covered? I think that's one of the main things holding us back now.

And a huge part of this falls on Romo too. He has a tendency for trying to force balls into tight spaces on 3rd downs instead of just taking the one on one matchup with a shot downfield. 3rd downs are the down where you'll get the most one on one matchups downfield and when we have to take shots. 2 of the Charger's biggest plays last week came on 3rd downs.

 

[CF74]

He has a tendency for trying to force balls into tight spaces on 3rd downs instead of just taking the one on one matchup with a shot downfield. 3rd downs are the down where you'll get the most one on one matchups downfield and when we have to take shots.

We never get one on one matchups downfield anymore because we pass so much. If we started to run more we'd see the safeties brought up and then play action can open up for that one on one...

 

[adamc91115]

We never get one on one matchups downfield anymore because we pass so much. If we started to run more we'd see the safeties brought up and then play action can open up for that one on one...

Uh, what about San Diego? One of the worst rushing teams in the league and yet most of their pass plays were 30+ yards down the field... Constant lobs to their receivers all day long.

 

[ddh33]

A couple of reasons.

1. No one is scared of the run. Felix could probably change that, but Marion Barber doesn't really scare anybody. He's a grinder, not someone who kills you with his explosive plays. So safeties are always playing deep to help against the pass because that is where this team is best...

2. Fans wanted to see Romo reign it in, and they wanted to see if Garrett could calll shorter routes. Well, they have. Many of you got what you wanted.

 

[casmith07]

Uh, what about San Diego? One of the worst rushing teams in the league and yet most of their pass plays were 30+ yards down the field... Constant lobs to their receivers all day long.

That's Norv Turner. He's always been a downfield guy. Remember the Cowboys in the early 90s?

It doesn't hurt that their receivers are trees.

 

[CF74]

Uh, what about San Diego? One of the worst rushing teams in the league and yet most of their pass plays were 30+ yards down the field... Constant lobs to their receivers all day long.

We aren't San Diego...

 

[utrunner07]

I think our lack of deep balls has to do more with Romo's ability than anything else [ducks].

 

[21Savage]

That's Norv Turner. He's always been a downfield guy. Remember the Cowboys in the early 90s?

It doesn't hurt that their receivers are trees.

We have one tree and one burner. Toss it up there and give them a chance.

The Saints have just one tree, yet they do the same. The Vikes with Rice and the rookie. We gotta give them chance to make plays.


For the guy who asked if it's Romo or Garrett. I think it's on both. Because I've seen Romo pass up on the deep guy open or not wait as long for it to develop, instead forcing something underneath.

There was a play in the first Commanders game when Roy was open deep but Romo threw short to John Phillips and they didn't connect. I'm sure Roy's been dissapointed a bit but has stayed with it none the less. The guy is the kind of WR who can make specatacular catches. Give them the chance to.

 

[21Savage]

I think our lack of deep balls has to do more with Romo's ability than anything else [ducks].

Don't duck. Just explain your stance and I'll debate that with you if you will.

 

[utrunner07]

Don't duck. Just explain your stance and I'll debate that with you if you will.

Romo's deep balls tend to hang A LOT and are slow getting there. Most of the time he goes deep it is a true jump ball. I think Garrett has decided that its just not worth the risk. It is also a BIG reason his INTs are down this year, and I'll take it. (Add to that our O line is not consistent (except Flozell) and it just is not a good idea).

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I would like to see us throw some more balls deep. It would help out some but I don't want to see them forcing them out there just to be forcing deep balls.

 

[Idgit]

God. Save us all from the opinions of Cowboys fans. Please.

 

[21Savage]

You don't think we should take more shots downfield?

This isn't a Tnew is the worst CB ever or Shannahan is a pilot thread. It's just the way I and some others feel.

 

[CF74]

If we changed our style the deep ball would open up. Who doesn't like the bomb???

 

[theebs]

God. Save us all from the opinions of Cowboys fans. Please.

lol

the obvious answer here is romos hands are too small.

Now if we were playing with a mini ball...bombs away.

 

[craig71]

If you look at the top offensive teams in the league this year (Saints, Colts, Chargers and Vikings... to a lesser extent the Cards), we have comparable talent at the skill positions.

But their OCs have been more adept and getting their WRs in favorable matchups. Even their RBs. But the WRs are my focus right now.

Somebody made a thread about this last week but he was absolutely right. How many times do we throw bombs to our WRs and let them try to make plays. Austin made one in Kansas city and Roy is plenty capable.

How many times did Rivers throw deep last week with Jenkins all over his man? Just take a shot and you can get a PI or your WR can make a play. And it also threatens the D and keeps them from being as aggressive in the middle of the field.

How many times do QBs like Rivers and Brees throw the ball to their guys when it seems like they might be covered? I think that's one of the main things holding us back now.

And a huge part of this falls on Romo too. He has a tendency for trying to force balls into tight spaces on 3rd downs instead of just taking the one on one matchup with a shot downfield. 3rd downs are the down where you'll get the most one on one matchups downfield and when we have to take shots. 2 of the Charger's biggest plays last week came on 3rd downs.

I think the line needs to be more consistent before they can start taking any shots downfield.If the line can play consistent football that will open up things in the vertical passing game.If the line can't buy time bad things can happen when the qb is under duress.

I also think the players need to clean up the procedure penalties that put you in bad situations.The 2nd and 10 that turns into a 2nd and 15 is uncalled for and limits your playbook.Those penalties also break up any rhythym you may have established.Whats up with Witten this year and procedure penalties?

I also worry about Romo forcing some throws downfield.It seems as if he locks onto a receiver at times regardless of the coverage and situation.He just needs to play with some control when going deep.Another thing I worry about is Romo hitting the big play,I've seen him miss on a few occasions where the receivers were open.

Now if they can get everybody on the same page where there hitting on all cylinders they should be able to take some shots downfield.I like the play action I've seen near the goal line,but i'd like to see some play action called between the fourties.But in order to use play action effectively their going to have to get the line to run block on a consistent basis.Play action is hard to sell if your not breaking off chunks off yardage in the run game.

I also think they better figure out how to do some of these things by Saturday.If the Saints get hot they're going to have to put up some points to have a chance.


Craig

 

[21Savage]

Romo's deep balls tend to hang A LOT and are slow getting there. Most of the time he goes deep it is a true jump ball. I think Garrett has decided that its just not worth the risk. It is also a BIG reason his INTs are down this year, and I'll take it. (Add to that our O line is not consistent (except Flozell) and it just is not a good idea).

As far as protection goes, we hit Rivers a few times as he threw and he didn't get better protection than we usually do. And all you really need is a 3 step drop and to put some more air under the ball for a deep shot along the sideline.


And I don't believe most of Romo's ints came from deep shots. And he throws the deep ball just fine in IMO. If they are 50-50, then that's basically what I'm looking for.