Romo best All-Time in TDs per game

jazzcat22

Staff member
Messages
81,310
Reaction score
102,239
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
THUMPER;2723678 said:
I just made an interesting discovery... While working on my QB stats I realized that Tony Romo is the only QB in NFL history who has averaged 2.02 TDs per game (including playoff games) for his career, at least of guys with over 10,000 career passing yards anyway. He has 83 TDs in 41 games!

The next highest is Kurt Warner with 208 TDs in 112 games (1.86 per game).

Peyton Manning is at 1.83, Steve Young, Daryle Lamonica, and Sonny Jurgensen are at 1.80.

For comparison sake, Tom Brady is at 1.76, and Brett Favre is at 1.73.

When talking about Tony Romo's faults let's not forget to take into consideration his assets, which are considerable.

how many pass attempts? QB's aren't considered for career leaders / records until a minimum of 1500 attempts. At least for completion pct. Or use to be anyway.
 

THUMPER

Papa
Messages
9,522
Reaction score
61
jazzcat22;2723776 said:
how many pass attempts? QB's aren't considered for career leaders / records until a minimum of 1500 attempts. At least for completion pct. Or use to be anyway.

That's for "Official" records, these are my records, but the stats are accurate.

Romo has 1307 pass attempts right now so by the end of next season he will be "qualified" for the official records.

In my stats I include playoff stats since they are real games that count and should be included. People say that it isn't fair to older layers who played under a different playoff system and didn't have the chance to play in as many but they didn't play 16 game regular seasons either so what's the difference?

I like to see how a player did per game or per attempt, so that's what all my comparisons and ratings are based on. What did they do with the opportunities they had.

Some say that you can't compare a guy with only 3 years but if I compare them every year then again, what difference does it make? Is it fair to compare Aikman or Staubach, who both played only 11 seasons, with Unitas, Jurgensen, Tarkenton, or Favre, who all played 18 years? Again, it is game by game or play by play to me.
 

jazzcat22

Staff member
Messages
81,310
Reaction score
102,239
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
THUMPER;2723790 said:
That's for "Official" records, these are my records, but the stats are accurate.

Romo has 1307 pass attempts right now so by the end of next season he will be "qualified" for the official records.

In my stats I include playoff stats since they are real games that count and should be included. People say that it isn't fair to older layers who played under a different playoff system and didn't have the chance to play in as many but they didn't play 16 game regular seasons either so what's the difference?

I like to see how a player did per game or per attempt, so that's what all my comparisons and ratings are based on. What did they do with the opportunities they had.

Some say that you can't compare a guy with only 3 years but if I compare them every year then again, what difference does it make? Is it fair to compare Aikman or Staubach, who both played only 11 seasons, with Unitas, Jurgensen, Tarkenton, or Favre, who all played 18 years? Again, it is game by game or play by play to me.

Thanks for the stats, those are great and say alot. Great research and observations. I agree, a game is a game, playoff, 12 games, 14 games or 16 game season. Different eras as the game changes, but it's all in the records, can't have separate record books. Look at baseball and all those stats.

Not taking anything away from Romo. I was just wondering how many pass attempts. And there is every reason he will keep that up this next year for when he does reach 1500. It's not like when he gets to 1499 he will become a bum.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
THUMPER;2723790 said:
That's for "Official" records, these are my records, but the stats are accurate.

Romo has 1307 pass attempts right now so by the end of next season he will be "qualified" for the official records.

In my stats I include playoff stats since they are real games that count and should be included. People say that it isn't fair to older layers who played under a different playoff system and didn't have the chance to play in as many but they didn't play 16 game regular seasons either so what's the difference?

I like to see how a player did per game or per attempt, so that's what all my comparisons and ratings are based on. What did they do with the opportunities they had.

Some say that you can't compare a guy with only 3 years but if I compare them every year then again, what difference does it make? Is it fair to compare Aikman or Staubach, who both played only 11 seasons, with Unitas, Jurgensen, Tarkenton, or Favre, who all played 18 years? Again, it is game by game or play by play to me.
I think the "small sample" argument is only good to root out players that haven't had to play through injury. Romo's done that.
 

THUMPER

Papa
Messages
9,522
Reaction score
61
theogt;2723801 said:
I think the "small sample" argument is only good to root out players that haven't had to play through injury. Romo's done that.

Right now, Romo doesn't qualify for my all-time QB rankings (I only rank those with 20,000 yards or more) but his per game averages are what they are so they count as far as I'm concerned. Plus I like to compare them and see where he would rank.

In a few years Romo will be seen very differently than he is now. After 2007 he was talked about with manning and Brady but after last year he is suddenly a big question mark to the media. They are quick to anoint a guy as the greatest ever after one good year and just as quick to write them off as mediocre after a bad season.

Give Romo a couple more years and he will be recognized as a truly elite QB.
 

THUMPER

Papa
Messages
9,522
Reaction score
61
jazzcat22;2723796 said:
Thanks for the stats, those are great and say alot. Great research and observations. I agree, a game is a game, playoff, 12 games, 14 games or 16 game season. Different eras as the game changes, but it's all in the records, can't have separate record books. Look at baseball and all those stats.

Not taking anything away from Romo. I was just wondering how many pass attempts. And there is every reason he will keep that up this next year for when he does reach 1500. It's not like when he gets to 1499 he will become a bum.

Thanks, I love doing this stuff, especially during the offseason. I hate baseball and don't watch hockey so my only sports interests at this time of year are the NBA (if the Lakers are doing well, which they are :D ) and football stats.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
THUMPER;2723812 said:
Right now, Romo doesn't qualify for my all-time QB rankings (I only rank those with 20,000 yards or more) but his per game averages are what they are so they count as far as I'm concerned. Plus I like to compare them and see where he would rank.

In a few years Romo will be seen very differently than he is now. After 2007 he was talked about with manning and Brady but after last year he is suddenly a big question mark to the media. They are quick to anoint a guy as the greatest ever after one good year and just as quick to write them off as mediocre after a bad season.

Give Romo a couple more years and he will be recognized as a truly elite QB.
And yet a "bad year" for Peyton and Brady are QB ratings in the mid 80s. Romo's "bad year" saw a 91.4 QB rating, which is something that a QB like Donovan McNabb has topped only twice in his 10 year career. Hell, Brady's only had better than a 91.4 QB rating in 3 of his 9 seasons.

It's really quite crazy how good Romo is.
 

AsthmaField

Outta bounds
Messages
26,489
Reaction score
44,544
jazzcat22;2723796 said:
And there is every reason he will keep that up this next year for when he does reach 1500.

Yes he will. By all accounts, Romo had a bad (for him) season last year. He broke a finger on his throwing hand, missed three games and wasn't right in several others. On top of that, I think Garrett was still learning to be an offensive coordinator. I think Jason will call a much better gameplan this year... he learned a lot going through '08.

I think Tony is going to come back this year and have an even better season than last year. If he stays healthy, I think he'll add a lot of yard's and TD's and cut down on turnovers (that is going to be stressed this year). If that happens, he's going to only add to the outstanding stats he's already produced.
 

THUMPER

Papa
Messages
9,522
Reaction score
61
theogt;2723821 said:
And yet a "bad year" for Peyton and Brady are QB ratings in the mid 80s. Romo's "bad year" saw a 91.4 QB rating, which is something that a QB like Donovan McNabb has topped only twice in his 10 year career. Hell, Brady's only had better than a 91.4 QB rating in 3 of his 9 seasons.

It's really quite crazy how good Romo is.

What's even crazier is how so many people can't see it!
 

Boyzmamacita

CowBabe Up!!!
Messages
29,047
Reaction score
64,100
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
There are those who believe that Romo won't be successful without TO. I so hope he proves them wrong. He still has plenty of weapons.
 

AdamJT13

Salary Cap Analyst
Messages
16,583
Reaction score
4,529
THUMPER;2723678 said:
I just made an interesting discovery... While working on my QB stats I realized that Tony Romo is the only QB in NFL history who has averaged 2.02 TDs per game (including playoff games) for his career, at least of guys with over 10,000 career passing yards anyway. He has 83 TDs in 41 games!

It looks like you counted only his games started as "games" but included his touchdowns from other games in the stat.

Romo still might rank No. 1 if every other quarterback's numbers were corrected, but his average would drop to 1.95 TDs per start.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
Boyzmamacita;2723859 said:
There are those who believe that Romo won't be successful without TO. I so hope he proves them wrong. He still has plenty of weapons.
I think losing TO will prevent him from putting up numbers like in 2007. That was an amazing year that was overshadowed by Brady's otherworldly performance.

But TO actually pulled down his YPA in 2008. TO was a major TD target for Romo, but I think Roy and Tony will actually have better chemistry in the red zone.
 

Rampage

Benched
Messages
24,117
Reaction score
2
every one of those guys mentioned has played more than twice as long as Romo. I'm not impressed with another worthless stat.
 

The Panch

New Member
Messages
4,184
Reaction score
0
theogt;2723821 said:
And yet a "bad year" for Peyton and Brady are QB ratings in the mid 80s. Romo's "bad year" saw a 91.4 QB rating, which is something that a QB like Donovan McNabb has topped only twice in his 10 year career. Hell, Brady's only had better than a 91.4 QB rating in 3 of his 9 seasons.

It's really quite crazy how good Romo is.
And the most fumbles Peyton ever had in a season was 7, losing 3 of them. Romo had 13 fumbles in 13 games last year, losing 7 of em. That's not included in a passer rating, so what's your point?
 

sonnyboy

Benched
Messages
7,357
Reaction score
0
Rampage;2723912 said:
every one of those guys mentioned has played more than twice as long as Romo. I'm not impressed with another worthless stat.


Are you impressed with any stat? How do you judge QB's?
 
Top