Romo Contract vs. Dak Contract

[blueblood70]

Yeah, Romo is better than Dak. I will grant you that.

Here is the main issue with people who are hell bent on comparing the two...why the double standard of expectations between the 2 QBs? There is an excuse for Romo for every season’s failure that doesn’t involve Romo, while the finger gets pointed at Dak because he isn’t as good as Romo?

An example, Dak’s defense can give up 34 points in a playoff game and it’s Dak’s fault they lose. After all, Dak threw an interception. No mention of Witten blowing a block leading to a sack, TWill dropping a wide open pass, Butler had a stupid penalty and dropped a TD pass, the refs didn’t call pass interference against Witten at the end of the first half, interception called back due to a ticky-tack penalty, defense getting absolutely shredded early in the game and then twice giving up the lead late in the 4th after Dallas tied the game?

None of that that seems to matter, Romo is better than Dak so Dak is to blame for loss because he made one mistake.

Why doesn’t Dak get the same courtesy extended to him that Romo got even though he isn’t as good?

I dont do that the of comparison I simply think Romo was a better QB as far as pocket presence and awareness and just looked more natural..

Now I for one havent blamed Dak for any of the playoff losses, he and zeke has played pretty well in all the playoff games.. Defense ultimately has been our downfall plus individuals making mistakes for sure..its no different then Murray fumbling, bailey missing two FGs, and the Dez no catch..the DC have been jinxed many times in these big games..

we should feel a bit snakebite like NO has recently, always something unusual or crazy happens at the worst possible moments..LA Rams get gifted a SB when they didnt deserve it and left NO licking their wounds wondering not agin..

whatever it has been in the playoffs daks not been bad in those moments..

However I lost most of the faith I had in Dak I the way he played down the stretch in 5 of the 6 last games.. I dont care the reason but he regressed and looked BAD..real BAD imo its why I am down on him right now..he withered in the big moments , I realize players cant step up every big moment but we only needed IONE game maybe two for Dak to prove he can lift a team from a loss and turn it into a win..its what I have seen from mahomes 3 times this playoff run , ive seen it from Rogers and others like RW..noones perfect but Dak to me juts fell on his face the last 5 weeks of the season.. he had opotrtunitys..

its less about ability and more about decision making on where to go with the ball presnap, when to ignore playcalls and FEEL the game and juts call a play or go rouge every now and then to flat out win a game like the end of the MN game.. IMO we can blame the play calling but really an RPO leave the decsions in the QBs hand he can run, he can hand off or he can throw, DAk made the wrong decsions in those 2 plays and the throw to zeke on the short tight side of the feel at the sideline with no room for error because it was his first primary but never looked to the middle and right for a better option..

that drives me crazy all the bad playcall and coaching narratives when Dak is the field general , the leader, and had the ball and made the wrong decisions..he did this a lot in those games in NE, BUFF, CHI, PHIlly , he just seem when under the most pressure made the wrong choices..that concerns me , not his throwing motion or accuracy or deep ball touch..its the pocket awareness and where to throw the ball, when to change the play, when to wink at a WR to just go off script and burn a defense.. I feel Daks a coach robot and most of the time just does exactly as the play was drawn up and doesnt recognize when to change it, he typically has his mind made up to go to his first primary read and forces it there..

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

It was easier for Romo to take a team friendly deal with the money he had already made. He had made around 61m, Dak has made 4m

Dak has made a reported 50m+ from his endorsement deals his first 4 seasons in the league. What did Romo make in endorsements sitting on the bench 3 of his 1st 4 seasons. Educate yourself a little

 

[blueblood70]

I made no argument comparing the value of Romo vs. the value of Dak. Others seem to want to use this thread to fight about that. I don't really care because by the time Dak took over, Romo's body was shot. It didn't matter if Romo might have been better in sports, because the Cowboys couldn't rely on him, and Dak was having the single best rookie QB season in the entire history of the NFL.

Also, I am not arguing that Dak is being greedy by trying to negotiate the best possible deal for himself. What I have a problem with is those who think, for politically correct reasons, that the Cowboys treated Romo better than they are treating Dak. I pointed out that the Cowboys offered BOTH Romo AND Dak discounted deals. Romo agreed to the discount, and so far, Dak has rejected it - as is his right. I'm also NOT suggesting that Dak should accept the discounted deal just because Romo did. Dak is his own man, and can choose his own path.

I just absolutely despise false accusations. And the accusation that the Cowboys and/or the Jones family is treating Dak less respectively than they treated Romo is simply false. I hate that.

thats true ill give you that, they speak highly of Dak and are simply trying too get deal done that favors both sides and gives them some slack in the event he doesnt grow anymore and Daks Agents are playing hardball and want it all or nothing..its their job to get lal they can but at some point its detrimental to their client as Dak has a lot more opportunitys playing here and this is obviously in the back of Daks mind a lot his year like not risking running and getting hurt because he wasn't singed long-term.

this offseason the offense is changing somewhat and if hes not there day one learning, is setting him back, at some point Dak and his agents need to come to the middle, if Daks as good as he think shes going to be , bring us a SB and Jerry will rip this team friendly deal up and back the brinks truck up to his bank.. that I know...

Unlike Zeke , Dak has many more opprtunitys at bigger deals.. just take the 32 or less and get this off your back and go show the DC you are worth more..its as if they all know he wont get much better and won tget another deal so are fighting for more now..who knows im tired of the saga..

 

[Ranched]

Dak has made a reported 50m+ from his endorsement deals his first 4 seasons in the league. What did Romo make in endorsements sitting on the bench 3 of his 1st 4 seasons. Educate yourself a little

Well, he certainly made up for it sitting in the CBS booth once a week.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Well, he certainly made up for it sitting in the CBS booth once a week.

Can't argue with that! but it wasn't in his 1st 4 years

 

[jujoboys]

In Romo's final contract, the headline was that the Cowboys were giving Romo a 6 -year contract extension for $108M, $18M per season. Combined with his 2013 salary, his total deal was 7 years, 119.5M - just over $17M per season. That same offseason, Joe Flacco signed a 6 year deal for $120.6M, $20.1M per season. Ultimately, just based on the raw averages, Romo was giving the Cowboys a 15% discount off the price of the top QB contract in the league.

But the truth is actually that over the first 4 seasons of Romo's deal, he was actually paid only $16.375M per season. He never cashed in on the final 3 years of his deal, and thus was only paid 65.5M, and he never received the last $54M of his back-loaded deal. That means the Cowboys paid Romo 18.3% less than the Ravens paid Flacco.

Compare that to today, when the top QB is making $35M per season. If the Cowboys treat Dak the same way that they treated Romo, then they would offer him a back-loaded contract for 7 years that pays him 84.93% of what Russell Wilson is making. That is a 7 year deal for $208M, an average $29.7M per season. And his first 4 seasons under that contract, Dak would make $28.5M per season.

Along comes Stephen A. Smith, who claims that Jerry would NEVER treat Romo the way he's treating Dak.



The implication is that Dak is being treated worse than Romo. But the truth is Romo was willing to take a discount to be the QB of the Cowboys, and Dak is not. It is certainly Dak's right to negotiate as hard as he can to get the best deal he can from the Cowboys. But can we please dispense with the notion that Jerry would gladly pay Romo, but refuses to pay Dak. That is simply not true. The Jones want a discount from Dak - just like they got a discount from Romo. They are treating Dak with the exact same amount of respect as they treated Romo.

You are comparing apples to oranges. The Dak contract compared to Romo contract makes sense if Dallas signed Dak to a contract last year when Dak had a year left on his contract like Romo did. Lets just say Dallas signed him to a 4 year extension last year that paid out $35 million a year. You would have his $35 million times 4 plus 2019 at $2 million. A 5 year contract at $142 million or $28.4 million a year. Since he does not have a contract then Dallas will not be doing an extension but a new contract. We still got the benefit of only paying him $2 million last year and were able to roll the CAP savings over to 2020 by not signing him to a contract in 2019.

 

[Kevinicus]

This post is not factual at all.

Romo did not play out his rookie deal and actually got paid before he won the starting job. He got an extension to his rookie contract in 2006 2 year deal to 2007 collecting about $27M. Romo made more than Dak in the 4th year of his career by over $1M and he only played as starter 1 season with 0 playoff wins (that was more than 10 years ago). Stephen A Smith who I can not stand is absolutely right.

Tony Romo Estimated Career Earnings
YEAR TEAM SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUCTURE BONUS OPTION BONUS INCENTIVE TOTAL CASH
2003

$225,000 $10,000 - - - - - $235,000
2004

$305,000 - - - - - - $305,000
2005

$380,000 $300,000 $20,000 - - - - $700,000
2006

$900,000 $2,000,000 $280,000 - - - - $3,180,000
2007

$6,000,000 $11,500,000 - - - - - $17,500,000
2008

$605,000 - - - $5,895,000 - - $6,500,000
2009

$620,000 - - - $6,380,000 - - $7,000,000
2010

$8,500,000 - - - - - - $8,500,000
2011

$810,000 - - - $8,190,000 - - $9,000,000
2012

$825,000 - - - - $8,175,000 - $9,000,000
2013

$1,500,000 $25,000,000 - - - - - $26,500,000
2014

$1,000,000 - - - $12,500,000 - - $13,500,000
2015

$1,000,000 - - - $16,000,000 - $2,458 $17,002,458
2016

$8,500,000 - - - - - - $8,500,000
14 seasons $31,170,000 $38,810,000 $300,000 - $48,965,000 $8,175,000 $2,458 $127,422,458

Your numbers don't match up with your words.

 

[Little Jr]

Dak has made a reported 50m+ from his endorsement deals his first 4 seasons in the league. What did Romo make in endorsements sitting on the bench 3 of his 1st 4 seasons. Educate yourself a little

Educate yourself, Dak does not make 50m in endorsements. He has a insurance police and endorsements WORTH 50m, doesnt make or have made 50m. If you own a business worth 50m, doesnt meant you make 50m, it means if you sell that business thats what you can sell it for. Cowboys are worth 5B but they dont make 5b a year lol.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Educate yourself, Dak does not make 50m in endorsements. He has a insurance police and endorsements WORTH 50m, doesnt make or have made 50m. If you own a business worth 50m, doesnt meant you make 50m, it means if you sell that business thats what you can sell it for. Cowboys are worth 5B but they dont make 5b a year lol.

your a very confused person but for the sake of argument lets just say he made 10m the last 4 years in endorsements, thats way more than Romo made his 1st 4 seasons plus Dak was also the benificary of the NFL program that pays player more money at the end of the season if they exceed their draft status and playing time. Dak has received a large cheque from the NFL after each of his seasons

These are just some of his endorsement deals since 2017
AT&T, Adidas, Beats by Dre, Campbell’s Chunky Soup, Direct TV, Keurig, Pepsi, 7-Eleven, Panini, Tostitos, Panini America, New Era Caps, Nicholas Air and Dannon. That's 11 deals and i'm sure there are more. If he just making 500kK a year with all these deals it sure adds up quick

 

[Hennessy_King]

Didn’t Romo get franchised a time or 2?

It was never even discussed with Romo

 

[Little Jr]

your a very confused person but for the sake of argument lets just say he made 10m the last 4 years in endorsements, thats way more than Romo made his 1st 4 seasons plus Dak was also the benificary of the NFL program that pays player more money at the end of the season if they exceed their draft status and playing time. Dak has received a large cheque from the NFL after each of his seasons

These are just some of his endorsement deals since 2017
AT&T, Adidas, Beats by Dre, Campbell’s Chunky Soup, Direct TV, Keurig, Pepsi, 7-Eleven, Panini, Tostitos, Panini America, New Era Caps, Nicholas Air and Dannon. That's 11 deals and i'm sure there are more. If he just making 500kK a year with all these deals it sure adds up quick

Lol Im not confused, I know the difference between worth and what someone actually makes.Its been reported is 7m in endorsements, but thats not what you said lol. Im only correcting you on what you claimed. You told me to get educated on a subject you obviously wasnt educated in.

Even with the program you speak of, Dak has only made 4.7m and Romo made 4m his 1st 4 years. From that program Dak has made $744,000. I wouldnt call 16% a large cheque.

Lets go with 7m a year in endorsements for 3 years now. That would be 21m and 4m in salary. That would 25m he has made compared to Romos 61m before is 1st big contract. Its easier to take a team friendly deal when you had made 36m more than Dak. And that 61m is what romo made from the team, thats not including any endorsements he had at the time.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Lol Im not confused, I know the difference between worth and what someone actually makes.Its been reported is 7m in endorsements, but thats not what you said lol. Im only correcting you on what you claimed. You told me to get educated on a subject you obviously wasnt educated in.

Even with the program you speak of, Dak has only made 4.7m and Romo made 4m his 1st 4 years. From that program Dak has made $744,000. I wouldnt call 16% a large cheque.

Lets go with 7m a year in endorsements for 3 years now. That would be 21m and 4m in salary. That would 25m he has made compared to Romos 61m before is 1st big contract. Its easier to take a team friendly deal when you had made 36m more than Dak. And that 61m is what romo made from the team, thats not including any endorsements he had at the time.

So your now your moving the goal post lol. Dak made much more money his 1st 4 years in the NFL (including endorsements) than Romo did. By the time Romo signed his big deal he was in the NFL 10 years, that is how long it took him to make 60m. If Dak gets tagged this season he will have made about as much money as Romo in just 5 years

 

[Little Jr]

So your now your moving the goal post lol. Dak made much more money his 1st 4 years in the NFL (including endorsements) than Romo did. By the time Romo signed his big deal he was in the NFL 10 years, that is how long it took him to make 60m. If Dak gets tagged this season he will have made about as much money as Romo in just 5 years

You moved the goal post lol. You told me to get educated and you were shown to be wrong. Then you moved to the new NFL rules and incentives that he has made from that program. Im just moving along with you, buddy.

I could care less how many years each has/had played. Going into Romos big contract he had made 61m. Dak going into his has made 25m. 4 years or 10 years, really doesnt matter. Plus, like I said, the 61m Romo had made was ALL from the cowboys and no endorsements was counted into that 61m so it was more than 61m. The year before Romo signed his deal he had just made 9m, thas more than Dak has in 4 years. 9m the year before that too. 8.5m the year before and 7m the year before. So 33.5m in 4 years he made before he signed his deal and again, thats not including what he made in endorsements. He made more just from the cowboys in 4 years than dak did from the cowboys + endorsements. Hell, Romo made 3.1m in 2006 and didnt even start until the 7th game of the year. Only 1.5m less than Dak has in 4 years.

Remember, this whole conversation started with you claiming that Dak has made 50m in endorsements and told me to get educated in a reply to me for saying it was easier for Romo to take a team friendly deal because the money he had made.You were shown to be wrong and started moving the goal post. My statement still stands true, Romo had made more money than Dak at the time he signed his contract. We can go off Romos whole 10 yrs before he signed, we can go off just the 4 years prior, either way, he made more than Dak just from the Cowboys than Dak has from the Cowboys and endorsements.