Romo for MVP

[perrykemp]

I'll be interested in seeing how the advanced metrics play out but I think Romo is having the best season of any QB in the league so far. He's 2nd in the traditional QB rating, but that stat is starting to become useless with all of the 3 yard, stat padding TDs that Rodgers and Manning throw. Rodgers attempting to throw a 1 yard TD in a 42-0 game is the most shameless thing I've seen in a long time, and Manning isn't much better.

Agree with you that Rodgers & Manning are more likely to put up eye popping stats in their systems, however, it's hard to say Rodgers is padding the stats when he has sat out nearly two full games after being pulled in early in the 3rd quarter in a number of their blowouts. Add to that Lacy had 9 TDs (vs Murray's 7) and it's not like they aren't giving Lacy opps to score.

Broncos also have 8 TDs rushing.

 

[LandryFan]

As much as i love Romo...Geez he was a little sloppy last night throwing ducks, and holding the ball for 2 long. Even though the giants played really well in coverage,im guessing more because of the familiarity. Anyways back to the op I dont think Imho Romo played well last night certainly not MVP caliber..im a Romo Fan

 

[perrykemp]

I think he should at least be in the discussion along with Rogers, Murray, Manning and Brady. He's showing everyone what he's capable of doing with a good team behind him. Something that intelligent fans knew he was capable of doing all along.

Romo absolutely deserves to be in the MVP consideration. A 110 QB rating is insane. In the end, however, Murray and Romo will split any MVP considerations voters might have had.

 

[blumayne38]

Probably not, he and Murray would split votes. But I do think he would be a dark horse if they somehow finish with the best record in at least the conference. He's not going to catch Rodgers and Manning's totals because (hopefully) Murray is going to start getting the short yard TDs. Last night was kind of interesting, with all of our TDs coming outside of the 10.

And Randle not getting any carries. At least i dont think..

 

[LandryFan]

Look im a Romo Fan but Romo had 7 sec to throw on that last play to Dez.........The Oling won the game for us

You want to deny credit to Romo because he had a lot of time in the pocket to make that throw? He got the ball at his own 20 with 3 minutes to play and down by 4 points. That was a "do or die" situation. He, along with the team, came through. End of story.

 

[blumayne38]

I Never Said HE wasnt in the discussion, I just said i feel like Rodgers is the sure fire MVP

This is a QB driven league.

Murray will have to break 2,000 yards for serious consideration IMO.

He cant?

 

[blumayne38]

Of course Romo isn't going to win MVP. Not unless he goes on a crazy tear the final five games and averages 6 TDs per game. But that's no the question the OP posed. He stated he thinks he should be in the discussion, and I agree. He's #2 in completion percentage, #2 in YPA, and #2 in quarterback rating. His team has the 2nd best record in the NFL, and his last 9 games he's thrown 21 TDs to just 3 INTs. Plus, we saw what the team would be like without him, and he's playing with broken bones (again).

I never said he wasnt in the discussion, just that Rodgers is my sure fire MVP rite now

 

[silver]

Romo was clutch yesterday but I doubt he worries nor should he about personal accolades. His focus is on the lombardi throphy. Let Manning accumulate MVP's, at the end of the day what really matters is the Super Bowl.

 

[Direwolf63]

I Never Said HE wasnt in the discussion, I just said i feel like Rodgers is the sure fire MVP


He cant?

He can't....what? Break 2,000 yards? Of course he can.

I'm just saying that for MVP consideration, that's what Murray will have to do.

 

[VACowboy]

As much as i love Romo...Geez he was a little sloppy last night throwing ducks, and holding the ball for 2 long. Even though the giants played really well in coverage,im guessing more because of the familiarity. Anyways back to the op I dont think Imho Romo played well last night certainly not MVP caliber..im a Romo Fan

Seriously?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Agree with you that Rodgers & Manning are more likely to put up eye popping stats in their systems, however, it's hard to say Rodgers is padding the stats when he has sat out nearly two full games after being pulled in early in the 3rd quarter in a number of their blowouts. Add to that Lacy had 9 TDs (vs Murray's 7) and it's not like they aren't giving Lacy opps to score.

Broncos also have 8 TDs rushing.

It's stat padding because of the excess. When you are stacking TDs against discombobulated, reeling teams it no longer becomes impressive. Rodgers has 10 TDs against the Bears alone. Meanwhile he struggled mightily in New Orleans and Seattle (two places our Boys dominated). If Rodgers had thrown 2 TDs apiece against the Bears (easily all that was needed) his stats would still be fabulous but suddenly look a lot like Romo's, except the Cowboys would actually be 8-2 in games Romo started and he would have the more impressive victories. Rodgers whole case is built on stat padding against worthless teams in which we would just hand the ball to Murray and get the game over with already.

 

[gimmesix]

As much as i love Romo...Geez he was a little sloppy last night throwing ducks, and holding the ball for 2 long. Even though the giants played really well in coverage,im guessing more because of the familiarity. Anyways back to the op I dont think Imho Romo played well last night certainly not MVP caliber..im a Romo Fan

He said he's still not all the way back to normal, so I think we'll probably see a few more of those passes Thursday and possibly the next Thursday.

I also wonder if the flak jacket affects throws ... because no QB wears one as a normal part of their protection.

That being said, Romo still played real well last night. There were only a handful of throws at most that weren't where they should have been.

 

[Crown Royal]

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[Super_Kazuya]

I ran across this tweet yesterday as well... keep in mind those two guys won the MVP that year.

 

[perrykemp]

It's stat padding because of the excess. When you are stacking TDs against discombobulated, reeling teams it no longer becomes impressive. Rodgers has 10 TDs against the Bears alone. Meanwhile he struggled mightily in New Orleans and Seattle (two places our Boys dominated). If Rodgers had thrown 2 TDs apiece against the Bears (easily all that was needed) his stats would still be fabulous but suddenly look a lot like Romo's, except the Cowboys would actually be 8-2 in games Romo started and he would have the more impressive victories. Rodgers whole case is built on stat padding against worthless teams in which we would just hand the ball to Murray and get the game over with already.

I guess we can agree to disagree.

Against the Bears and Eagles, Rodgers threw a total of 16 TDs this season -- 14 of which came in the 1st half. I don't know how you can call it stat padding when Rodgers keeps getting pulled in the 3rd quarter of blowouts.

Is your beef that Rodgers is throwing too many TDs in the 1st half of games? Maybe they should pull him after the 1st quarter...

 

[perrykemp]

I ran across this tweet yesterday as well... keep in mind those two guys won the MVP that year.

4 games of 135+ QB rating? Wow. I think he has a shot at the record.

 

[etw926]

Look im a Romo Fan but Romo had 7 sec to throw on that last play to Dez.........The Oling won the game for us

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I guess we can agree to disagree.

Against the Bears and Eagles, Rodgers threw a total of 16 TDs this season -- 14 of which came in the 1st half. I don't know how you can call it stat padding when Rodgers keeps getting pulled in the 3rd quarter of blowouts.

Is your beef that Rodgers is throwing too many TDs in the 1st half of games? Maybe they should pull him after the 1st quarter...

The point is that a few games against ridiculous defenses are padding his stats out to the stratosphere and making him look better than he is. Same with Big Ben and 12 TDs in 2(!) games. On a scale of 1/10, sure give them a 10 score for that game, they were great. The problem is that when you compare their numbers for the season they are getting 20 and 30 scores for those games. QBR, for all its flaws does at least attempt to address things like this. Rodgers is #1 in QBR as well, but it's a close race and up for grabs right now.

 

[DFWJC]

I'd love to see him be in the conversation just because he does deserve some recognition.

But with Murray doing what he's doing and 2-3 other QBs In the league playing lights out, I honestly wouldn't vote for Romo if I was unbiased.

Of course, he can have 6-7 straight good games, but one bad one and the haters will erase all the good as if that one game should wipe it out. He'll never really get his due because of established narrative. Just a little credit and that's fine. I sure know he doesn't care that much personally, so why should we.
Just win.

 

[KJJ]

This is a QB driven league.

Murray will have to break 2,000 yards for serious consideration IMO.

I think Murray has an excellent shot for MVP. The fact it's a QB driven league has made what he's done this season even more impressive. He set an NFL record with 8 straight 100 yard games to open the season. He's rushed for at least 100 yards in 10 of his 11 games. He's led a Cowboys team that some predicted would be the worst team in the league this season to an 8-3 record tied for first in the NFC East.

The Cowboys being able to run the ball efficiently is a big reason Romo has had the season he's had despite an ailing back. A big part of winning the MVP is team success and the Cowboys have been a huge surprise this season and Murray's consistent running has been the main reason.