Romo has a 94.6 QB rating. Good right?

[Super_Kazuya]

Cant put any stock in that when it had Peyton at like 7th in week 1.

Actually that's what gives it more credibility with me, because it doesn't overrate things like touchdowns and interceptions. I thought it was a good game but blown out of proportion. Kinda like when Parcells said about Romo's 5TD game in 2006, "I could have thrown the first two myself".

The only thing I don't like about QBR is that it tries to factor in "clutch", which is inherently stupid.

 

[Future]

Actually that's what gives it more credibility with me, because it doesn't overrate things like touchdowns and interceptions. I thought it was a good game but blown out of proportion. Kinda like when Parcells said about Romo's 5TD game in 2006, "I could have thrown the first two myself".

The only thing I don't like about QBR is that it tries to factor in "clutch", which is inherently stupid.

Well, we have different perspectives then. There is no way you are going to be able to convince me that a QB played better than Peyton in week 1.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Well, we have different perspectives then. There is no way you are going to be able to convince me that a QB played better than Peyton in week 1.

Exactly.

That system is flawed like every other QB rating system they've used. Any system that has even 1 QB with a better opening week than Manning, let alone six, is stupid beyond belief.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Well, we have different perspectives then. There is no way you are going to be able to convince me that a QB played better than Peyton in week 1.

I wouldn't try. A guy throws a 5 yard pass and then he runs 70 yards past a winded defense and you think that's a great play by the QB. I don't, and neither does QBR.

 

[iceman117]

Interesting factoid. Romo has a 94.6 QB rating which on the surface sounds pretty good.

Romo's 94.6 QB rating puts him as the 17th ranked QB in the NFL after two weeks -- ie in the bottom half (barely) of the league.

I think (or thought) that a 94.6 QB rating is good. It sure seems like it until you start looking around and looking at the overall level of QB play in possibly at all an all time high -- probably due to pro-offense NFL rules changes.

Food for thought anyway.

It's 2 weeks a lot of those guys will level out while Romo is right at his career QB rating and probably will play better once the offense clicks.... Plus QB rating isn't a great stat to support your anti romo thread because he has the 4th highest QB rating in NFL history so does that make him the 4th best QB in the history of the game? If it doesn't than him being 17th this season shouldn't matter either. You should have thought this threw a little better.

 

[Future]

I wouldn't try. A guy throws a 5 yard pass and then he runs 70 yards past a winded defense and you think that's a great play by the QB. I don't, and neither does QBR.

That's one of 7 TDs. 7. Thats the most ever, in case you didnt know.

Its not like he threw 7 dumpoffs that went the distance, you're just trying to find a flaw Peyton's game for whatever reason.

And did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, Peyton knew the defense was gassed adn tried to take advantage of it. Or when plays are designed that get guys good matchups and open, he has something to do with that? Its not like he's been doing that for more than a decade or anything...

 

[jobberone]

wins are good, stats are to kill time and have something to talk about. If stats mattered, Dan Marino would be the Ring King, hes not, so they dont matter.

I'm not a huge stat guy either but you can't ignore them. Not at all.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

That's one of 7 TDs. 7. Thats the most ever, in case you didnt know.

Its not like he threw 7 dumpoffs that went the distance, you're just trying to find a flaw Peyton's game for whatever reason.

And did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, Peyton knew the defense was gassed adn tried to take advantage of it. Or when plays are designed that get guys good matchups and open, he has something to do with that? Its not like he's been doing that for more than a decade or anything...

No, I never thought that because that's ridiculous.

He also had a 5 yard TD and a 2 yard TD pass, one in which Welker was so wide open your Dad could have thrown it underhand. Not that you watched the game apparently.

But you miss the point... Peyton had a good game and it would have been just as good if the receiver was tackled at the 1 and they ran it in on the next play. There's nothing magical about a routine touchdown pass. By my count he did have four outstanding TD throws, but he also had 15 incompletions as well, many on 3rd down.

 

[Future]

No, I never thought that because that's ridiculous.

He also had a 5 yard TD and a 2 yard TD pass, one in which Welker was so wide open your Dad could have thrown it underhand. Not that you watched the game apparently.

But you miss the point... Peyton had a good game and it would have been just as good if the receiver was tackled at the 1 and they ran it in on the next play. There's nothing magical about a routine touchdown pass. By my count he did have four outstanding TD throws, but he also had 15 incompletions as well, many on 3rd down.

So then touchdown passes should never count? I dont understand this line of thinking...sure there is something to be said for YAC and WRs making plays, but to downplay a QB b/c of that is a mistake. By that line of thinking, the only TDs that matter are the ones completed in the endzone? I just dont really understand how you are discrediting touchdowns so easily.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

So then touchdown passes should never count? I dont understand this line of thinking...sure there is something to be said for YAC and WRs making plays, but to downplay a QB b/c of that is a mistake. By that line of thinking, the only TDs that matter are the ones completed in the endzone? I just dont really understand how you are discrediting touchdowns so easily.

I am not the creator of QBR. If I made a stat, maybe Peyton would have been #1 that week. I just don't think that just because a guy threw 7 TDs it means he necessarily had the best performance because not all TDs are created equal. I don't think it's outrageous for you to say Peyton should have been #1, just that you would blow off QBR because it said otherwise.

From what I know of QBR, yes distance traveled in the air does count big for them. Also third down performance and avoiding sacks, especially in the "clutch".