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Yakuza Rich

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If Romo is basically not carrying the team on his back, the playcalling is not sound situationally and supporting cast rarely if ever steps up to allow for success. The team goes as he goes and unfortunately, that is an organizational philosophy. It is pretty rare the team wins if Romo has an average statistical day mainly because there is the belief he is what makes or breaks everything.

Take how Aikman was. If he was efficient but not spectacular, the team could win because that was how they were constructed. All you see now are the Joneses talking about explosive offenses, which again puts the weight on Romo's shoulders. It is why he forces things, that is almost how he ends up due to the way the expectations are driven down.

You still didn't explain how Romo having a bad day is 'not on him.'

I think that is the main sticking point with fans that are fed up. With many fans he always seems to avoid the blame. To the point where if he has a bad day, they will blame everybody but him.

And it's not rare that we win when he has an average statistical day.

They beat Washington twice, Philly, NYG at NYG and Oakland all with not-so-great performances from Romo.

That's probably my largest gripe against Romo. When playing on the road in cold weather, his play is rather lethargic.

I have my complaints about how the team is designed and put together. But the absolving Romo of all blame is just silly after a while.






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Casual fans.....yea, keep the pom poms going. Newsflash, most of Romos gafs are Romos. Just like every other QB.

Rothliesberger won a Super Bowl game with a QB rating in the 20's ... 23 or 26 or something.

That will never happen for Romo, even in a regular season game. Let alone a game of importance.
 

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You still didn't explain how Romo having a bad day is 'not on him.'

I think that is the main sticking point with fans that are fed up. With many fans he always seems to avoid the blame. To the point where if he has a bad day, they will blame everybody but him.

And it's not rare that we win when he has an average statistical day.

They beat Washington twice, Philly, NYG at NYG and Oakland all with not-so-great performances from Romo.

That's probably my largest gripe against Romo. When playing on the road in cold weather, his play is rather lethargic.

I have my complaints about how the team is designed and put together. But the absolving Romo of all blame is just silly after a while.
There is a middle ground there, though. A lot of us realize that Romo does have bad days, he isn't a perfect player (who is?), and he isn't on the level of a Brady or Manning or Rodgers or probably Brees.

But that doesn't mean he isn't good enough to win with, or that we aren't lucky to have him.

I do think he needs good coaching and managing, which he hasn't had since Parcells and Payton. I still can't believe he's going to spend his entire prime under one of Jerry's wildcatting experiments. We'll never know what Tony could have done under a proven offensive coach. What a shame.
 

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I half been reading Senica and the early Greek denouncers and this post caught my short attention span.
I dont belief that Romo is the reason why we cannot win. The reality is that we half not won with Romo. Ipso facto desereum untitis that this team, under Romo, struggles to win more than 1 playoff game under Romo's 'leadership."

Romo may not be our albatross under the bridge but he is our albatross: He's good. Good enough to get this team to a mediocre status, which bring mediocre picks in the draft, which keep us perpetually a mediocre team.

Romo stats are great. Anybody who argue this with me I will fight them. But great individual stats suppose to mean something to the team and his stats half not heped us.

So the big question become not is Romo good but are we good with Romo. I am sure that Senica and the ancient Greek choruses would agree with me that Romo the bus driver is not taking us anywhere except to mediocreville.

All this high-tone reading has exhausted me. But i am glad that I could relate history to this Romo epoch that keep me interested but ultimately disappointed ever end of December.
 

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Or put it this way: romo is the best QB to never excel in the playoffs. Or never to win a Super Bowl.

And any invoking the name off Marino, don't. Those two are still not in the same league, figurately speaking that is.
 

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It's funny how a 32nd ranked defense gets a pass while Romo gets blamed for everything from global warming to the stock market crash of 1929


Yeah, pity Romo for this albatross around his wrist. As Jimma Carter once said "Life is not fay-ah" though Romo half millions to help ease the pain. We fans we half only good memories of his great personal stats.
 

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There is a middle ground there, though. A lot of us realize that Romo does have bad days, he isn't a perfect player (who is?), and he isn't on the level of a Brady or Manning or Rodgers or probably Brees.

But that doesn't mean he isn't good enough to win with, or that we aren't lucky to have him.

I do think he needs good coaching and managing, which he hasn't had since Parcells and Payton. I still can't believe he's going to spend his entire prime under one of Jerry's wildcatting experiments. We'll never know what Tony could have done under a proven offensive coach. What a shame.

If you look at his DVOA (footballoutsiders.com's QB rankings) and his pass attempts per game, we see that he becomes *less effective* as he throws the ball more. To me, he's a QB that we don't want to throw more than 32-36 times a game (8-9 passes per quarter). I think somebody like Brees, Brady, Rodgers or Manning probably don't lose their effectiveness until they start throwing more than 40-42 times a game.

That's partially coaching. But, it's also the limitations of Romo's ability as he becomes less effective when he's throwing more.




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Or put it this way: romo is the best QB to never excel in the playoffs. Or never to win a Super Bowl.

And any invoking the name off Marino, don't. Those two are still not in the same league, figurately speaking that is.
In the Lombardi dept they're equal
 

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Agree, Rich. Like I said, he's a small step below those guys, and he isn't perfect.

But that's also exactly why he needs a coach who understands those limitations. Instead we have a guy who lets him sling it 50+ times a game.

Romo really is a lot like Favre in terms of style. And Favre needed a top coach like Holmgren to win a Superbowl. He'd never have won one under the guy we have.
 

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Blaming the failures on Romo is like putting all the blame for a bad economy solely on a president.

It takes no thought, knowledge, or effort.


I agree. Can't blame Romo for the failtures.

I blame the defense. Wait, that took no thought, knowledge, or effort.
 

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If it's not the QB then who was wearing number 9 in his last win and in game against Washington 2012?

But yeah, it's not just the QB. There are bigger problems in Dallas. If we are being honest with ourselves though, we would know the QB hasn't done anything special at the end of the season games/playoffs either. So for me, he gets lumped in with the rest of the mediocrity around here. He isn't above it.

So, the defense giving up 274 rushing yards had no contribution? Morris with a 6.1 yard per carrier avg. TOP 33 minutes to 26. I really wonder how many teams win when they give up that many rushing yards. Probably not a lot.

Look, I'll be the first to admit he didn't play well in that game. But how in the world can you you not recognize that 274 yards rushing didn't play a role in that game? RG3 was 9 of 18 for a 100 yards, 50% passing and they won the game. And Romo threw it 37 times, more than 3 times than RG3 did. Reading some of these posts are mind boggling.....
 

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lol@tony has no help. So we pretty much need to throw everyone under the bus to protect Romo
Romo had 2 1st rounders in the O-line and another 1st rounder as a receiver(Dez Bryant) on the offense for him. 3 of the 4 first rounders in the past 4 years went to offense, and now it's 4 out of 5 this year. Got him Brian Waters to solidify the O-Line even more. He has hall of famer Jason Witten for Tight-End. Demarco Murray was very solid at running back. Terrance Williams was another solid receiver for him. Dwayne Harris was outstanding on returns. Jason Garrett even had play-calling removed and Callahan called the plays. Same results. Romo got more freedom to do his thing on offense. Same results. Romo is not the sole problem, but he's as much of a problem as anyone else. Saying that it's everyone but him and that he has no help is a falsehood. We've traded all the 'problem-childs' to make the team more Romo friendly, and yet same results. Bye bye TO, Bye bye Martellus Bennett, bye bye 'lazy and fat' Felix Jones, and yet the same results. Just from what we invested in offense, we should be making the playoffs on offense alone.

Quick -- how many turnovers did Tony have in the 7 losses where he played? 10? 12? Nope. Four. Three picks and a fumble. Some of those were game enders, yes. However, when your D gives up 51 points and 37 points in two of those games, it is hard to put that on the QB's shoulders.

We lost games where Tony had a passer ratings of 99.1, 108.6, 140.0(!), 102.9, 72.9, 109.2, and 80.0. I see two mediocre passing games there and five games where Tony was near perfect and we still lost.
 

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Fantasy just isn't my thing.

We're not unlucky. Its not the QB. It isn't the casting call of coaches and schemes. Its the one constant all these years.

Whether you like it or not.

No it seems personal. I don't know what you and Jerry have going on, but if my eyes are correct, I didn't see Jerry on the field quitting on Wade Philips or throwing late game int's

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So, the defense giving up 274 rushing yards had no contribution? Morris with a 6.1 yard per carrier avg. TOP 33 minutes to 26. I really wonder how many teams win when they give up that many rushing yards. Probably not a lot.

Look, I'll be the first to admit he didn't play well in that game. But how in the world can you you not recognize that 274 yards rushing didn't play a role in that game? RG3 was 9 of 18 for a 100 yards, 50% passing and they won the game. And Romo threw it 37 times, more than 3 times than RG3 did. Reading some of these posts are mind boggling.....

You can't fix stupid.
 

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Good job...however for some that would be like trying to master physics with a G.E.D.

Please sir. I come from a long line of GEDers. It make us educated and happy without taking gym or silly algebras.
Physics is easy if you keep in mind the iambic parameters and the interaction of matter and energy.
But physics is best learned by example. For instance, a defense with no energy and a offense with too much energy against resistant matter is no way to win.
Sometimes i empress myself wich such thoughts.
 

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So, the defense giving up 274 rushing yards had no contribution? Morris with a 6.1 yard per carrier avg. TOP 33 minutes to 26. I really wonder how many teams win when they give up that many rushing yards. Probably not a lot.

Look, I'll be the first to admit he didn't play well in that game. But how in the world can you you not recognize that 274 yards rushing didn't play a role in that game? RG3 was 9 of 18 for a 100 yards, 50% passing and they won the game. And Romo threw it 37 times, more than 3 times than RG3 did. Reading some of these posts are mind boggling.....

Yes, others played a role but Romo played the biggest role in that loss. It is undeniable. You were close to giving up on him after that loss.. lol
 
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