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So, the defense giving up 274 rushing yards had no contribution? Morris with a 6.1 yard per carrier avg. TOP 33 minutes to 26. I really wonder how many teams win when they give up that many rushing yards. Probably not a lot.

Look, I'll be the first to admit he didn't play well in that game. But how in the world can you you not recognize that 274 yards rushing didn't play a role in that game? RG3 was 9 of 18 for a 100 yards, 50% passing and they won the game. And Romo threw it 37 times, more than 3 times than RG3 did. Reading some of these posts are mind boggling.....

He also threw three stupid interceptions. How about you take that into account when estimating the amount of yards the Cowboys gave up? Of course not.. Let's blame everyone but Romo.Romo did the defense no favors. Again... let's go ahead and blame the defense and not Mr. 100 million dollar super duper elite QB Tony Romo

oh.. and of course Commanders won with RG3 having a mediocre game...

ROMO THREW 3 INTERCEPTIONS!

Romo was the biggest reason why we lost that game. Don't try to argue that.
 

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If you want to talk about 2013.
Romo was just as much to blame as the defense and ill explain why.

HE lead the NFL in 3 and outs. I say he because he had an obsurd amount of authority on what was called on the field. He was able to change anything he wanted to. Everybody knew the def wasnt going to stop anybody, Romo knew this. But he continually put the defense in bad spots with back to back 3 and outs for the better part of the middle of every game.

The Dallas defense gave the offense alot of short fields early in the yr with alot of turnovers. Alot of them drives ended up in FGs.

Now you cant say Romo blew games without noting he brought the team back in games eventhough the defense gave up yrds to every QB it saw. But there were times Romo shouldve quit the Audibles and used his running game. Games against the Lions, Packers and Eagles. All 3 of those games wouldve been won if it was shortened. Or the team shouldve taken away his ability to audible so much in them games and told him to just run the play called. Garrett actually publicly threw Romo under the bus after that Packers game. Then retracted. But its clear the team has called running plays and Romo for whatever reason has audibled out of alot of them.

Romo is a very good QB. But he is his own worst enemy. He has ended alot of games over the course of his career with game ending interceptions. I dont see how people ignore this fact in every Romo thread thats ever been on this forum. People can tout all his 4th quarter comebacks, but the only ones that will be remember are the bad games he's had when it meant the most.

There been times like in washinton a couple yrs ago where the team just didnt have WRs to throw to at the end of the game. And theres been games where he just has been bad.

For whatever reason this team just hasnt won with him as QB. And dont blame Garrett for that. Hell Parcells couldnt even win with him.
 

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He also threw three stupid interceptions. How about you take that into account when estimating the amount of yards the Cowboys gave up? Of course not.. Let's blame everyone but Romo.Romo did the defense no favors. Again... let's go ahead and blame the defense and not Mr. 100 million dollar super duper elite QB Tony Romo

oh.. and of course Commanders won with RG3 having a mediocre game...

ROMO THREW 3 INTERCEPTIONS!

Romo was the biggest reason why we lost that game. Don't try to argue that.

Hey look, it's everyone's favorite angry troll. I see you corrected that Romo and 120 million figure you were throwing around. Good job.

You and your buddy/alter ego ufc sure do obsess over that 2 year old Commanders game a lot. I can only imagine you have it playing 24/7 on your DVR. I have never seen a so called fan so obsessed with a game before. I know it's heart-breaking that our 8-8, crippled team couldn't limp into the playoffs and get embarrassed the next week, but it really is time to let it go.
 

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Hey look, it's everyone's favorite angry troll. I see you corrected that Romo and 120 million figure you were throwing around. Good job.

You and your buddy/alter ego ufc sure do obsess over that 2 year old Commanders game a lot. I can only imagine you have it playing 24/7 on your DVR. I have never seen a so called fan so obsessed with a game before. I know it's heart-breaking that our 8-8, crippled team couldn't limp into the playoffs and get embarrassed the next week, but it really is time to let it go.

I would have prefered to see the Cowboy get humiliated by the Seahawks in the playoffs than watch Romo throw that game away.... against the Commanders(of all teams)
 

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If you want to talk about 2013.
Romo was just as much to blame as the defense and ill explain why.

HE lead the NFL in 3 and outs. I say he because he had an obsurd amount of authority on what was called on the field.

Again, that's on the coaching.

Did you see that post about the 2006 playbook yesterday? Way into it, It clearly states that we may "kill" from a run to a run. Garrett doesn't seem to do that.

For whatever reason this team just hasnt won with him as QB. And dont blame Garrett for that. Hell Parcells couldnt even win with him.

He won more with an incredibly green first-time-starter Romo than Garrett has with a very experienced one.
 

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If you want to talk about 2013.
Romo was just as much to blame as the defense and ill explain why.

HE lead the NFL in 3 and outs./quote]

Stopped reading there... if you are going to make up fantasy world stuff can you at least make both of us win Powerball? We can verify outlandish claims, you know.
 

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I would have prefered to see the Cowboy get humiliated by the Seahawks in the playoffs than watch Romo throw that game away.... against the Commanders(of all teams)

I would have too, but again it's time to let it go. Romo played 15 games in 2013. There's plenty of data there so stop living in the past. I'm sorry that your hero Orton played and blew the last game, but you've got to get a grip.
 

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Again, that's on the coaching.

Did you see that post about the 2006 playbook yesterday? Way into it, It clearly states that we may "kill" from a run to a run. Garrett doesn't seem to do that.



He won more with an incredibly green first-time-starter Romo than Garrett has with a very experienced one.

He's a franchise QB right? He's supposed to be able to make them decisions. you cant have it both way. Romo wasnt a franchise QB then. Which is why he was on a leash with Parcells. Which is it? because you cant have it both ways.
 

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He's a franchise QB right? He's supposed to be able to make them decisions. you cant have it both way. Romo wasnt a franchise QB then. Which is why he was on a leash with Parcells. Which is it? because you cant have it both ways.

It's not having it both ways to say that coaching matters, no matter who you are. Tony Dorsett was a HOFer but Landry knew he had to be used properly by having his touches limited. John Elway needed the running game emphasized. There are countless other examples.

Why even have coaching if it's 100% up to the players? They're not wind-up toys that you just send out there.
 

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Dont try to post logic into a Romo thread. He could throw for 600 yrds and throw the game ending INT on a bonehead throw and the 600 yrds will forever be a reason as to why Romo isnt at fault for his game ending INT



No offense but if your QB throws for 600+ yards and multiple TDs, quite frankly there shouldn't be any need for him to be worrying about passing at the end of the game, to still try and win it, because you should have the game won by then.

It's like Denver this last season. Yep he threw a terrible pass at the end of the game. It sucked. No doubt.

But good God almighty in Heaven. The man threw for over 500 yards and 5 TDs. Maybe that freaking defense could get their crap together and help him out a little bit. I'm just saying.
 

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But good God almighty in Heaven. The man threw for over 500 yards and 5 TDs. Maybe that freaking defense could get their crap together and help him out a little bit. I'm just saying.

That is a logical conclusion to come to, .. but nope, some still say it was his fault we lost. Boggles the mind.
 

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It's not having it both ways to say that coaching matters, no matter who you are. Tony Dorsett was a HOFer but Landry knew he had to be used properly by having his touches limited. John Elway needed the running game emphasized. There are countless other examples.

Why even have coaching if it's 100% up to the players? They're not wind-up toys that you just send out there.

well its clear Dallas views Romo as a franchise QB. How would it make them look if they had their 120mil dollar qb on a leash? Dont use Elway because that NFL is no longer alive. Hell Aikman rarely Audibled. IMO todays NFL has made these above average QBs into Elite QBs because of the rules of the game today. And yes i think if the rules of todays NFL didnt involve handicapping the defense I think 3-4 of these QBs in the nfl would be average to bad below average. And Romo would be in that group. there was a reason why before this era of NFL there were so few QBs that people would label Elite.
 

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Why can't you use Elway? He couldn't carry the team all by himself, so why should Romo be expected to? The era doesn't matter on that one. (And yes, audibles go back farther than Elway, much farther.)

And of course the raw numbers have come way up due to rules changes and enforcements, but "average" and "elite" are all relative to your peers.

I never called Romo "elite" anyway. But if you think Romo isn't elite -- which you clearly do -- he probably needs more management, not less.
 

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He also threw three stupid interceptions. How about you take that into account when estimating the amount of yards the Cowboys gave up? Of course not.. Let's blame everyone but Romo.Romo did the defense no favors. Again... let's go ahead and blame the defense and not Mr. 100 million dollar super duper elite QB Tony Romo

oh.. and of course Commanders won with RG3 having a mediocre game...

ROMO THREW 3 INTERCEPTIONS!

Romo was the biggest reason why we lost that game. Don't try to argue that.

Romo is at fault. Its really silly not to see that when your QB has to carry the entire team with a bad defense and a coach that doesn't run the ball and rabid fans that blame him for just about everything, I can see why I believe he deserves that big contract.

Lets blame him for everything. He gets paid the big bucks to take the blame.
 

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Agree, Rich. Like I said, he's a small step below those guys, and he isn't perfect.

But that's also exactly why he needs a coach who understands those limitations. Instead we have a guy who lets him sling it 50+ times a game.

Romo really is a lot like Favre in terms of style. And Favre needed a top coach like Holmgren to win a Superbowl. He'd never have won one under the guy we have.

I do think he would have been a better player if he had a better coach.
 

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I think Romo is easily good enough to take this team to a SB and win it but time is running out. Having said that, stats don't tell the whole story either. A QB can having an amazing game statistically and be the reason they lose. Its just part of playing the position. He can also have an amazing 4th Quarter, throw a game ending pick, and his rating won't drop enough to really tell the whole story. This goes for all QB's, not just Romo. All in all, Romo is asked to do way too much and is put in some terrible positions during games, especially the end of games. I don't know for a fact if Romo is changing the plays and costing us games but if he is, we need more help from the sidelines. Its a tough position to play, that's why there are only a handful in the world that are elite. I think he's good enough but he's not going to get better so the team has to get better...Fast.
 

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Seriously? There's 4 or 5 here that ignorantly blame Romo for Cowboy mediocracy. I don't want to mention posters as the mods may take issue.

And on the flip side there are 4 or 5 posters who think ROMO can do no wrong...the mentality of..."it was the other person's fault"!! And yet here we sit mired in mediocrity. No I am not blaming ROMO for everything, unfortunately the QB is always in the forefront of losses and wins,taking the credit for those wins and losses no matter if it was his total doing or not. To me ROMO helps this team achieve that 8-8 mark which I hate to admit. Could you imagine this team if we didn't have him. But here in lies the problem...2 back surgeries and being 34/35 with a huge contract where do they turn. it's do or die with ROMO at the helm.
 

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The less we have to rely on Tony, the better. Unfortunately, this team isnt good enough so we have to rely on him. And well, sometimes it works out (Washington, broke back game) and sometimes it doesnt(pick one of the end game blunders). It all evens out to....8-8. Rinse. Repeat.
 

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Although that Washington game ending INT was heart breaking, do people realize Romo's #1 and #2 WR's were Kevin Ogletree and Dwayne Harris?

We weren't driving down the field 80 yards with those two as our 1-2 punch.
 

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And on the flip side there are 4 or 5 posters who think ROMO can do no wrong...the mentality of..."it was the other person's fault"!! And yet here we sit mired in mediocrity. No I am not blaming ROMO for everything, unfortunately the QB is always in the forefront of losses and wins,taking the credit for those wins and losses no matter if it was his total doing or not. To me ROMO helps this team achieve that 8-8 mark which I hate to admit. Could you imagine this team if we didn't have him. But here in lies the problem...2 back surgeries and being 34/35 with a huge contract where do they turn. it's do or die with ROMO at the helm.

show me the posters that say Romo can do no wrong. Really. Sure he has made a few bonehead plays. EVERY QB does. But his plays on the positive outnumber the negative at least 10 to 1.
 
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