Romo on the Fan

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i got no hate man. but i do see in almost every post of yours *anything* said about romo will be turned bad. i seldom see any objectivity in what you say, just a direction you refuse to deviate from, or explore other possibilities. xyz said 123, so 123 means abc is bad. there are times you say some really cool stuff i can totally agree with, but that doesn't mean it's every time.

but you seem to go out of your way to turn romo commentary into romo=bad.

read your own posting history and tell me i'm wrong w/o trying to prove you're right.

You don't read enough here to make an informed assumption about my thoughts on Romo. And the hater comment was not about you hating, but what you always claim about me. If you can't get even that small sentence correct, anything I have to say will surely confuse you. As it does.
 
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What I took from the Ticket interview was that his back's endurance has been compromised, it cannot perform as much work or take as much abuse. They believe that his back can handle 2 real practices and 1 game per week. If it can, and he doesn't take any major beatings, then all should be well.
 

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You don't read enough here to make an informed assumption about my thoughts on Romo. And the hater comment was not about you hating, but what you always claim about me. If you can't get even that small sentence correct, anything I have to say will surely confuse you. As it does.

yea, that must be it.

not sure how you know how much i read in here, but hey, you're the man and all and are never wrong and your base assumptions over minimal data can't be questioned.

so let me ask this - how many hours a week am i in here reading? you seem to know this stuff.
 

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What I took from the Ticket interview was that his back's endurance has been compromised, it cannot perform as much work or take as much abuse. They believe that his back can handle 2 real practices and 1 game per week. If it can, and he doesn't take any major beatings, then all should be well.

Yeah, the endurance thing is his status as of today.
That should be better next week, even better next month, and theoretically much better in one year.
For example, Peyton Manning's arm is better this year than last, after another full year of special training for his particular issue.
 

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Romo feels good about where he is at in terms of recovery as do the Cowboys. Ill informed fans really do not factor into any of that. Romo is being brought around slowly and as they have said that will increase as time goes on in camp. Mean time Romo says he is feeling fine. Any opinion different from that is just that an opinion based on very limited knowledge and information.
 

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Neither a refutation, or clouding anything. I'm saying rehab was 100% expected and so should not be a surprise in any way. That's not refuting anything you're saying, as far as I can tell.

The entire conversation on the radio was about Romo and his back. They used an entire block and a partial for this discussion.

They pulled up an interview with Romo from the day before. They brought in a comment by Stephen Jones. Fisher made an analogy as well.

His first words were these by Fisher. "They should have stated up front they were working for the 9ers game to get him back to 100 percent. Had they done that, all this discussion about his back wouldn't have taken place."

Then they pieced together all the parts which indicated he was still rehabbing and Romo's comments he was ready to play in a game was the usual tough guy Romo is. Because Romo said, "Players want to be on the field. I don't know of any player that doesn't want to play. I can think of little which would cause me not to play or want to be off the field."

Then they followed with the comments that Romo wanted to start taking first string snaps the first day of training camp and the head trainer said no.

Do you see the bolded part where Fisher stated they should have made an announcement up front?

Because Romo is workiing to 100%.

That was my point, has been my only point, and is still my point.

There is no underlying subversion of the Romo mystique here. Just stating the facts, he is not 100% and is working toward that goal.

Then Fisher made a last point which seems to have confounded people here. He said, "I (meaning Fisher) am 100% and I don't rehab three and a half hours a day."

People got their nose out of joint but they did not take time to understand the comment. Fisher doesn't have a back issue and therefor doesn't rehab for three and a half hours a day. Romo does and does. That is just a fact and the three and a half hours suggests things may be getting back to 100%, but they are not there as yet. Regardless of his "Put me in, coach," comments.

The attack on Fisher for saying this was really stupid. And I used the word stupid in this context because it was illustrative of how a guy is rehabbing and the amount of time a day has meaning. It means he hasn't arrived, and compared to someone who does not have the same injury or surgery, the comparison was valid in its example.

What makes it obtuse is ignoring the logic of the conclusion and jumping on Fisher for making it.

There cannot be a more substantive exemplar of the bias and hurt feelings of some on this board in regard to this player.

Now you Idgit, leaped on the comment made by Tony that he is 100%. You then gave it value without you having any inkling of what it meant or its context. I quote you here.

Tony's definition of 100% was pretty enlightening. By 100%, Tony's saying that there's nothing he can't do on the field that he usually does. He distinguishes that from doing the number of reps and volume of work that he'd have done prior to the surgery.

Explain to me how you can come to that conclusion when Romo himself said he's tough and would not pull himself out of a game if it were up to him. And then see the trainers holding him back. And the comment by Fisher who has interviewed everyone involved.

So choose your verb as you will, clouding, refuting, rewriting, the facts are you made a claim there that you cannot support with facts.

You guys go to any length for this one player. Nothing can be said without you jumping on it and tossing out the spin to fit your agenda.

I merely reported what was said. Frankly, they talked about 12 minutes on the subject because they went through a commercial in the middle.

Not once did I claim he was never coming back, or that this is life threatening with this team. Just reported what was said.

And yet, the usual suspects come out of the wood work and start their usual spin. And that includes you, Idgit.

Because now I have to write a tome to explain the illogic of the responses in comparison to the facts.

He is rehabbing and not at 100%.
 

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yea, that must be it.

not sure how you know how much i read in here, but hey, you're the man and all and are never wrong and your base assumptions over minimal data can't be questioned.

so let me ask this - how many hours a week am i in here reading? you seem to know this stuff.

I know by how many times you tell me I never say anything positive about Romo. Because if you read here enough, you would know how silly that comment really is.
 

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You guys go to any length for this one player. Nothing can be said without you jumping on it and tossing out the spin to fit your agenda.

you mean like a comment from a radio host getting this much attention to fit your "romo isn't 100%" mantra?

damn people for doing that.

and good to see you're doing doing any usual spinning yourself.
 

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I know by how many times you tell me I never say anything positive about Romo. Because if you read here enough, you would know how silly that comment really is.

if *everything* you said was negative and WAH WAH WAH then you'd be on ignore as i am told i like to flaunt around. since you're not on ignore then i must not put you in that category. but lately it seems you're hellbent on bagging on romo and making up facts out of random comments and i can see no reason why other than *you* sir, have an agenda.

you take something snarky and negative said about romo and run with it. if someone tries to say something positive about romo, you use the "logic" drawn from random comments such as fisher to prove your point.

i have NO IDEA if romo is 100% or not but i'm not about to go fishing for random comments to prove things one way or the other when in they end all they happen to be are random comments.
 

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you mean like a comment from a radio host getting this much attention to fit your "romo isn't 100%" mantra?

damn people for doing that.

Because lets face it, in a Romo thread about his back, any reference to a discussion on the radio about where he is in his rehab must mean I haste the guy.

Is that your logic here?
 

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rehab means he had a back issue and is working past it. the fact he's still doing "rehab" now isn't a major OH MY GOD HE'S STILL INJURED! it just means he's being careful, taking it slow, and should be fine.
So the sky isn't falling?
 

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Because lets face it, in a Romo thread about his back, any reference to a discussion on the radio about where he is in his rehab must mean I haste the guy.

Is that your logic here?

not at all. maybe you should read the board more.

my "logic" is that taking what some radio jock said and running with it as fact and proof of any point YOU are trying to make is just kinda silly. to me, that means YOU feel that romo isn't at 100% so when YOU hear someone agree with it, you "report it" so bolster how YOU feel about it.
 

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my "logic" is that taking what some radio jock said and running with it as fact and proof of any point YOU are trying to make is just kinda silly
Do you even realize that the "radio jock" whose comment you're bashing is Mike Fisher, the biggest Cowboys homer in all of the DFW media not employed by the team?
 

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Sums up this thread?
 

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not at all. maybe you should read the board more.

my "logic" is that taking what some radio jock said and running with it as fact and proof of any point YOU are trying to make is just kinda silly. to me, that means YOU feel that romo isn't at 100% so when YOU hear someone agree with it, you "report it" so bolster how YOU feel about it.

You assume something you cannot know here. I had no opinion one way or the other. You want to make this an agenda, but it clearly was me reporting a radio conversation like so many others do here.

You assigned your value to this.

But there's more. And by the way, I have no clue what you do with ignore. I have never laid claim to anything you do with that feature on this board.

But we continue here.

but lately it seems you're hellbent on bagging on romo and making up facts out of random comments and i can see no reason why other than *you* sir, have an agenda.

And that looks like you just called me a liar. Did you? Yes or no?
 

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Do you even realize that the "radio jock" whose comment you're bashing is Mike Fisher, the biggest Cowboys homer in all of the DFW media not employed by the team?

I like listening to Fisher though admittedly I don't actively seek out his take unless someone brings it to me. Homer or not he seems to be really trying to fan the flames of Romo's back. I think he's the one who tried to make a big deal out of Romo skipping practice last week (was it Saturday?). I think he called it definitely a "red flag."

Overall I think this arguing equates to an insistence on making a definitive call on this uncertain situation right NOW. Not unlike most things Cowboy I guess but it still strikes me kind of odd.

For me, it seems apparent the guy is doing everything he can to get healthy and extend his career as long as possible. The FO is apparently convinced its a reasonable bet that Romo has multiple years left. Hence, no drafting of a QB. Romo seems to be productive on the practice field thus far confirming the belief he isn't DONE as yet. But no one KNOWS the future health of his back. We're just going to have let it play out.
 

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You assume something you cannot know here. I had no opinion one way or the other. You want to make this an agenda, but it clearly was me reporting a radio conversation like so many others do here.

You assigned your value to this.

But there's more. And by the way, I have no clue what you do with ignore. I have never laid claim to anything you do with that feature on this board.

But we continue here.



And that looks like you just called me a liar. Did you? Yes or no?

Did you or did you not use his comment to say romo was still in rehab?
 

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I like listening to Fisher though admittedly I don't actively seek out his take unless someone brings it to me. Homer or not he seems to be really trying to fan the flames of Romo's back.
So does Babe Laufenberg, another who likes Romo a lot. He said yesterday he'd be shocked if Romo finished the season.

Of course no one knows for sure -- that goes without saying. But maybe the fact that two of the media people closest to the team who traditionally have been very team-friendly are worried means there's something there and that it's not just fans hating Romo, hating the team, or being blindly pessimistic.
 

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So does Babe Laufenberg, another who likes Romo a lot. He said yesterday he'd be shocked if Romo finished the season.

Of course no one knows for sure -- that goes without saying. But maybe the fact that two of the media people closest to the team are worried means there's something there and that it's not just fans hating Romo, hating the team, or being blindly pessimistic.

Fans are worried. If Romo is not alright then the season is over before it even starts. Nobody knows for sure until the games starts. You aren't going to be able to tell much in practice.
 
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