Romo on the Fan

[CoCo]

So does Babe Laufenberg, another who likes Romo a lot. He said yesterday he'd be shocked if Romo finished the season.

Of course no one knows for sure -- that goes without saying. But maybe the fact that two of the media people closest to the team who traditionally have been very team-friendly are worried means there's something there and that it's not just fans hating Romo, hating the team, or being blindly pessimistic.

There is definitely something there. He had back surgery. No one disputes that or its potential impact on an athletes career. What is in dispute is what impact it will have on THIS athlete's career. So just what information is it that Fisher and Babe have access to and why don't they just share it with the rest of the beat writers? Or better yet, confront the FO with it?

I'll suggest it's this - pure speculation. Not info the doctor shared with them, or Jerry/Stephen/Jason did or any other inside source. We ALL know there is risk here. That's not new or inside information. Babe & Fisher are free to have their opinions. But I need a little more to go on before I'm going to ratchet up my concern at this early juncture, especially when Romo takes the field and makes NFL QB throws and looks good doing it.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I will feel better when its December and Dallas is in the hunt and nobody is talking about Romo back because it isn't bothering him.

No, they'll be talking about "0-10 in elimination games" or some nonesense like that.

 

[Idgit]

Now you Idgit, leaped on the comment made by Tony that he is 100%. You then gave it value without you having any inkling of what it meant or its context. I quote you here.

Explain to me how you can come to that conclusion when Romo himself said he's tough and would not pull himself out of a game if it were up to him. And then see the trainers holding him back. And the comment by Fisher who has interviewed everyone involved...

I should say that I was unable to access the Fisher interview earlier in the week, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

The point about Tony being 100%, though, is really straightforward. Tony's interview on DC.com from this week makes his interpretation clear: he's able to do 100% of what he normally does. Ie, he has no range of motion restrictions when he's practicing.

He's *not* sure he's able to do it yet with the duration he's had previously, and he doesn't want to push it sooner than he has to because there's little upside to that for him or the team.

All Romo's saying is that he doesn't have the restraint to not overdo things in terms of the reps because all athletes think they're fine until they're not, and so he's trusting the staff to monitor that for him.

Which means he's not back at the level he's played at previously. And he's still rehabbing aggressively and building up his stamina in that regard. But that's what everybody expected, or should have expected at the outset.

Now, I don't discount the possibility that he's not actually as well of as he'd hoped or expected to be at this point and that the team is just hiding that from us. They've got a history of misleading us about that stuff. But we're flying blind on that score, no matter what, so that is what it is.

 

[DFWJC]

So does Babe Laufenberg, another who likes Romo a lot. He said yesterday he'd be shocked if Romo finished the season.

Of course no one knows for sure -- that goes without saying. But maybe the fact that two of the media people closest to the team who traditionally have been very team-friendly are worried means there's something there and that it's not just fans hating Romo, hating the team, or being blindly pessimistic.

Babe said last December when Romo had back surgery that he thought he'd never play another full season. With no data at all.
So all he's doing is sticking to his guns. Nothing new there.

I don't know about Fisher...I've heard him say more than once that Romo is fine. He's just splitting hairs on the 100% thing.

 

[TheDude]

Tony's definition of 100% was pretty enlightening. By 100%, Tony's saying that there's nothing he can't do on the field that he usually does. He distinguishes that from doing the number of reps and volume of work that he'd have done prior to the surgery.

i'll give ground and say vets may not need as much "work" as when they were young and inexperieinced

However, there is merit for concern. While he may not think he isnt limited from what he usually does on the field, the efficacy of that work was born from "doing the number of reps and volume of work". I think it is fair to say if he cant put in that practice (similar to how the Manning reports go), it can be a bad omen

I really hope is ok, but as a having a bad back myself, I worry.

 

[noshame]

I would start evaluating Wheeden a lot, just in the wild instance we need him. While you're at it, find a suitable back-up for him.
I will go on record here, we will be lucky if Tony makes the first game, and I don't see him making it through the first four.

 

[5Stars]

rehab means he had a back issue and is working past it. the fact he's still doing "rehab" now isn't a major OH MY GOD HE'S STILL INJURED! it just means he's being careful, taking it slow, and should be fine.

just like being said. if you have issues with him going this route, then you just have issues.

The point that TD3 was trying to make is that Fisher, a dumb *** desk jockey, says he is 100% healthy and does not rehab 31/2 hours a day. lmao

But Romo has to for 31/2 hours a day because his back is hurt so something must be wrong!! It's just so stupid!

Romo had back surgery. He plays professional football. He is rehabbing 3/1/2 hours a day. Rehab does require working out.

Fisher sits at a desk. He uses a keypad for work. His back is not injured. He does not need to rehab 31/2 hours a day.

Conclusion: Romo needs to rehab 31/2 hours a day because of his back. Fisher does not have a bad back, so he does not have to work out 31/2 hours a day. So, to some, that must mean that Romo is seriously not ready to play football, but Fisher is capable of saying some stupid *** stuff by comparing himself to Romo. smh

 

[5Stars]

I would start evaluating Wheeden a lot, just in the wild instance we need him. While you're at it, find a suitable back-up for him.
I will go on record here, we will be lucky if Tony makes the first game, and I don't see him making it through the first four.

Yeah, that is probably something you are rooting for.

 

[Idgit]

i'll give ground and say vets may not need as much "work" as when they were young and inexperieinced

However, there is merit for concern. While he may not think he isnt limited from what he usually does on the field, the efficacy of that work was born from "doing the number of reps and volume of work". I think it is fair to say if he cant put in that practice (similar to how the Manning reports go), it can be a bad omen

I really hope is ok, but as a having a bad back myself, I worry.

I definitely agree that the limited reps are an issue in and of themselves. I wouldn't say it's a bad omen, because I do think the limited reps were expected, and that team has been operating off if that parsed definition of "100%" all offseason to minimize the potential concern that could hurt ticket sales and the like. I just don't see evidence that we're not in the territory the medical staff expected him to be in at this point of the process. For example, Tony doesn't seem depressed about the circumstances. He seems like he's handling them practically. If he were behind the expected schedule, I don't think it would be that easy for him to fake it.

I've had back troubles myself, so I know how debilitating is is. I'm concerned about it, too. Just not any more concerned about it than I was before camp.

 

[5Stars]

Because lets face it, in a Romo thread about his back, any reference to a discussion on the radio about where he is in his rehab must mean I haste the guy.

Is that your logic here?

Yeah, those radio guys are really in the know. I wonder how many years Fisher went to med school in order to give out all this correct information?

It's pretty well know that you don't like Romo.

 

[5Stars]

So the sky isn't falling?

The sky's always falling for some posters. The media tell them it is.

 

[5Stars]

Do you even realize that the "radio jock" whose comment you're bashing is Mike Fisher, the biggest Cowboys homer in all of the DFW media not employed by the team?

Do you realize that Fisher is not a Medical doctor and does not know a damn thing about what Romo is doing?

 

[noshame]

Yeah, that is probably something you are rooting for.

No, it's more like you'll be one of the first to declare "the season's over" if Romo can't go. I believe the Cowboys will be better with or without him, because my entire life doesn't revolve around Tony, like a handful on here.

 

[5Stars]

No, it's more like you'll be one of the first to declare "the season's over" if Romo can't go. I believe the Cowboys will be better with or without him, because my entire life doesn't revolve around Tony, like a handful on here.

Dude, you cannot even spell the backup QB's name! Wheeden? Really?

I've had your game a long time ago...

Carry on with your bad self, Cowboy fan.

 

[TheDude]

I definitely agree that the limited reps are an issue in and of themselves. I wouldn't say it's a bad omen, because I do think the limited reps were expected, and that team has been operating off if that parsed definition of "100%" all offseason to minimize the potential concern that could hurt ticket sales and the like. I just don't see evidence that we're not in the territory the medical staff expected him to be in at this point of the process. For example, Tony doesn't seem depressed about the circumstances. He seems like he's handling them practically. If he were behind the expected schedule, I don't think it would be that easy for him to fake it.

I've had back troubles myself, so I know how debilitating is is. I'm concerned about it, too. Just not any more concerned about it than I was before camp.

Im not "more concerned" now, but backs and age resemble more of a car than wine. I have a fitness trainer friend who had a 15mm herniation in L4. He got the surgery and was out 2 months form BLT (Bend lift twist). THen 1.5 hours of rehab daily for 1 month and then 1 hour every other day. By month 6, there was no more rehab and he was told to stay away from free weights forever. He still uses free weights to an extent and seems to be ok, but apparently he still tweaks it sometimes.

I'll trust Romo is following a regimen suited for a profootball player, so I dont care about missing half of camp. Im concerned when he torques and throws while getting pulled down down. It might be play #1 or not happen this year, but if it does, I think he's through. I thought I read somewhere where his herniation was 17mm and he was losing feeling in his legs.

Everyone is different, I can only draw on my experience with the issue

 

[5Stars]

No, it's more like you'll be one of the first to declare "the season's over" if Romo can't go. I believe the Cowboys will be better with or without him, because my entire life doesn't revolve around Tony, like a handful on here.

I'll be the first right now! If Romo can't go...the season is over!

Mark down those words.

 

[noshame]

I'll be the first right now! If Romo can't go...the season is over!

Mark down those words.

Don't have too you babble them every other day.

 

[CCBoy]

I'll be the first right now! If Romo can't go...the season is over!

Mark down those words.

Easy fella'...he's going to lead the Cowboys through black 'n blue December and into the playoffs. There, said the truth, first!

 

[5Stars]

Don't have too you babble them every other day.

And you think "Wheeden" will be just as good or better than Romo. That's "babble".

 

[CCBoy]

Don't have too you babble them every other day.

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