Romo Thought/Prediction

[sonnyboy]

I posted this in another thread and thought it deserved it's own:

I think people are making to much of the fact that Romo hasn't thrown a regular season pass. I don't see this as a legit reason he can't take over.

He's been learning, watching and performing (all be it in a controlled environment) for four years.
I can assure you we will see very quickly what he's made of. What I mean is that he will be very close to what he'll be long term almost immediately. Look at some other examples of successful guys who kind of came out of nowhere

Warner spent a few years in arena and NFL Europe and I believe one full year on St Louis' bench. He was a seasoned guy who knew the system. He wasn't a rookie. He was exceptional from the first drive. He was no better in week 4 week 8 or week 16. He had "it".

Delhome spent three years with very little to no actual playing experience. He was as good in his first start for Carolina as he is today. Good comparable to Romo. He has "it"

Brady took over for Bledsoe in week 3 or 4 in his second year. He did get better over his first season. There was upward curve for him, but he was only a second year player and still very good from day one. Obviously he has "IT" sqaured.

I think Romo the next guy. He's not a rookie! Including him in this group is not going to sound so silly fairly soon. I believe he has "it". I love the way the ball comes off his hand. He's smooth, accurate, calm, confident. To me he seemed to make alot of quick and good reads, pre-snap and post-snap. Just seemed like he knew where he wanted to throw it quickly and always seemed to be right. Even though he seemed to be so technically precise, he wasn't mechanical he showed the ability to improvise.
I felt like I was watching something special. I see some Montana in his game.

Let me just say this. I was a Henson guy. Believed in him, wanted him to do well. I'm talking to a freind in the third quarter of our second preseaon game. You guys should remember this game, we all wanted Bledsoe to do well to kill any QB debate. Bledsoe was exceptional that first half. Romo comes in the 3rd Quarter and still upstages him! This friend is complaining because Henson wasn't getting in. Coming into that game I wanted to see Henson, but by that time I didn't want Romo to come out! I was converted and not the least bit dissapointed when they cut Henson two days latter.

I like Bledsoe, nice guy had some real nice moments for us last year. I've defended him and still see a lot of positives in his game. But I think Romo is an upgrade, it's his time.

 

[Mansta54]

I posted this in another thread and thought it deserved it's own:

I think people are making to much of the fact that Romo hasn't thrown a regular season pass. I don't see this as a legit reason he can't take over.

He's been learning, watching and performing (all be it in a controlled environment) for four years.
I can assure you we will see very quickly what he's made of. What I mean is that he will be very close to what he'll be long term almost immediately. Look at some other examples of successful guys who kind of came out of nowhere

Warner spent a few years in arena and NFL Europe and I believe one full year on St Louis' bench. He was a seasoned guy who knew the system. He wasn't a rookie. He was exceptional from the first drive. He was no better in week 4 week 8 or week 16. He had "it".

Delhome spent three years with very little to no actual playing experience. He was as good in his first start for Carolina as he is today. Good comparable to Romo. He has "it"

Brady took over for Bledsoe in week 3 or 4 in his second year. He did get better over his first season. There was upward curve for him, but he was only a second year player and still very good from day one. Obviously he has "IT" sqaured.

I think Romo the next guy. He's not a rookie! Including him in this group is not going to sound so silly fairly soon. I believe he has "it". I love the way the ball comes off his hand. He's smooth, accurate, calm, confident. To me he seemed to make alot of quick and good reads, pre-snap and post-snap. Just seemed like he knew where he wanted to throw it quickly and always seemed to be right. Even though he seemed to be so technically precise, he wasn't mechanical he showed the ability to improvise.
I felt like I was watching something special. I see some Montana in his game.

Let me just say this. I was a Henson guy. Believed in him, wanted him to do well. I'm talking to a freind in the third quarter of our third preseaon game. This friend is complaining because Henson wasn't getting in. Coming into that game I wanted to see Henson, but by that time I didn't want Romo to come out! I was converted and not the least bit dissapointed when they cut Henson two days latter.

I like Bledsoe, nice guy had some real nice moments for us last year. I've defended him and still see a lot of positives in his game. But I think Romo is an upgrade, it's his time.

Very well said!!!

 

[Hostile]

For every Warner, Brady, and Delhomme you throw out there I can name 10 guys who watched and waited and got their chance and flopped. Just because those guys have had some success doesn't guarantee a thing for Romo.

Now, I'd rather succeed with him at QB than with Bledsoe at QB, I won't lie about that, but people are prefectly right to be skeptical. The odds of him being a breakthrough story at QB are very slim and the fact that he has never thrown a meaningful pass in the NFL is relevant.

 

[cml750]

For every Warner, Brady, and Delhomme you throw out there I can name 10 guys who watched and waited and got their chance and flopped. Just because those guys have had some success doesn't guarantee a thing for Romo.

Now, I'd rather succeed with him at QB than with Bledsoe at QB, I won't lie about that, but people are prefectly right to be skeptical. The odds of him being a breakthrough story at QB are very slim and the fact that he has never thrown a meaningful pass in the NFL is relevant.

I agree but he still needs to be evaluated this year, so we will know if by some slim chance he is the guy. We will win nothing with Bledsoe. If Romo flops then we need to start from scratch next year with the draft. We do not need any more washed up veterans at the most important position on the team. It's sad that after 3 1/2 years of BP that our QB hopes ride on an undrafted free agent. The truth is we have wasted 2 1/4 years already on washed up has been QB's. We should already know what we have in Romo and Henson should have been given a fair shot.

 

[Reality]

For every Warner, Brady, and Delhomme you throw out there I can name 10 guys who watched and waited and got their chance and flopped. Just because those guys have had some success doesn't guarantee a thing for Romo.

Now, I'd rather succeed with him at QB than with Bledsoe at QB, I won't lie about that, but people are prefectly right to be skeptical. The odds of him being a breakthrough story at QB are very slim and the fact that he has never thrown a meaningful pass in the NFL is relevant.

Actually, the ratio would be much larger than 10 to 1 that have waited and failed. You would need a database server just to keep up with them in fact.

That being said, I really wish Romo would have started this week. Of all weeks, this would be the week to do it. Parcells could have said Bledsoe was still a little woozy from his touchdown run last week for both of them to save face and then he could have seen what Romo could do in a home game against a team the Cowboys should beat.

That way, if Romo struggles, it will end the controversey in the media and with the fans. If he does great, then give him another game to see if it was a fluke. If he does average, Parcells can use that to quiet the "Change QB" people.

While I don't hate Bledsoe and I think when he has time, he's a better than average quarterback. The problem is that the best teams have defenses that will not let him have time. If he can't elude the pass rush even just a little bit whether through the shotgun formation or rollouts, the Cowboys won't win any games in the post-season if they even make it.

I'm not ready to say "It's Romo time" but I do believe the Texans game would be the best game of the year to see what Romo has.

Personally, I believe Romo will start the second half no matter the score ..

-Reality

 

[Hostile]

I agree but he still needs to be evaluated this year, so we will know if by some slim chance he is the guy. We will win nothing with Bledsoe. If Romo flops then we need to start from scratch next year with the draft. We do not need any more washed up veterans at the most important position on the team. It's sad that after 3 1/2 years of BP that our QB hopes ride on an undrafted free agent. The truth is we have wasted 2 1/4 years already on washed up has been QB's. We should already know what we have in Romo and Henson should have been given a fair shot.

For 3 years I have said that we need to play Henson and Romo. Why would I change my tune now? I wouldn't. That's the point. I'm not critical of Romo for not getting a shot, that's on his Coaches. I still have a lot of skepticism because he hasn't shown me a thing. I believe I'm well within my rights to feel that way.

 

[cml750]

For 3 years I have said that we need to play Henson and Romo. Why would I change my tune now? I wouldn't. That's the point. I'm not critical of Romo for not getting a shot, that's on his Coaches. I still have a lot of skepticism because he hasn't shown me a thing. I believe I'm well within my rights to feel that way.

I do agree with you. I have always thought you are one of the few people on this board who actually got it with the QB position. I was just pointing out that it is sad that after 3 1/2 years we have *gulp* Bledsoe and an uproven, undrafted free agent as our QB choices. BP should be ashamed of himself. We need to know about Romo pronto, so we can plan for the next draft and season in regards to the most important position on the field!

 

[Hostile]

Actually, the ratio would be much larger than 10 to 1 that have waited and failed. You would need a database server just to keep up with them in fact.

That being said, I really wish Romo would have started this week. Of all weeks, this would be the week to do it. Parcells could have said Bledsoe was still a little woozy from his touchdown run last week for both of them to save face and then he could have seen what Romo could do in a home game against a team the Cowboys should beat.

That way, if Romo struggles, it will end the controversey in the media and with the fans. If he does great, then give him another game to see if it was a fluke. If he does average, Parcells can use that to quiet the "Change QB" people.

While I don't hate Bledsoe and I think when he has time, he's a better than average quarterback. The problem is that the best teams have defenses that will not let him have time. If he can't elude the pass rush even just a little bit whether through the shotgun formation or rollouts, the Cowboys won't win any games in the post-season if they even make it.

I'm not ready to say "It's Romo time" but I do believe the Texans game would be the best game of the year to see what Romo has.

Personally, I believe Romo will start the second half no matter the score ..

-Reality

I chose 10 as a random number based solely upon my memory, not actual research. I agree, the number would be much, much higher than that.

 

[Hostile]

I do agree with you. I have always thought you are one of the few people on this board who actually got it with the QB position. I was just pointing out that it is sad that after 3 1/2 years we have *gulp* Bledsoe and an uproven, undrafted free agent as our QB choices. BP should be ashamed of himself. We need to know about Romo pronto, so we can plan for the next draft and season in regards to the most important position on the field!

I agree with you, this is my disgust at our coaching staff, not the players. I don't fault the players at all here.

 

[sonnyboy]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I know the odds of him being even a good if not great QB ARE LONG.
The main point of this thread is that I believe we will see right away how good he is. 4 years is enough to step right in and perform, if he can.

The secondary point is that in my opinion.....he's got "it". Call it wishful thinking, call me a glass half full kind of guy, call me delusional.

I don't see starting him as a desperate move. A season ending move. Just an upgrade.

Reading between the Parcells lines, I think he really really likes this kid and is seriuosly considering starting him this year.

What do you guys think of that? Have any of you seen "it" in him?

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I know the odds of him being even a good if not great QB ARE LONG.
The main point of this thread is that I believe we will see right away how good he is. 4 years is enough to step right in and perform, if he can.

The secondary point is that in my opinion.....he's got "it". Call it wishful thinking, call me a glass half full kind of guy, call me delusional.

I don't see starting him as a desperate move. A season ending move. Just an upgrade.

Reading between the Parcells lines, I think he really really likes this kid and is seriuosly considering starting him this year.

What do you guys think of that? Have any of you seen "it" in him?

I saw him live in pre-season last year and I was not impressed. I don't put much stock in the pre-season though. I am rooting for this kid like I can't even describe, but I remain very skeptical.

 

[sonnyboy]

I saw him live in pre-season last year and I was not impressed. I don't put much stock in the pre-season though. I am rooting for this kid like I can't even describe, but I remain very skeptical.

What about this preseason Hos? Don't tell me you missed him this summer.

 

[Derinyar]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I know the odds of him being even a good if not great QB ARE LONG.
The main point of this thread is that I believe we will see right away how good he is. 4 years is enough to step right in and perform, if he can.

The secondary point is that in my opinion.....he's got "it". Call it wishful thinking, call me a glass half full kind of guy, call me delusional.

I don't see starting him as a desperate move. A season ending move. Just an upgrade.

Reading between the Parcells lines, I think he really really likes this kid and is seriuosly considering starting him this year.

What do you guys think of that? Have any of you seen "it" in him?

Any time you replace a vetern player with someone who hasn't thrown any live passes in the NFL you are putting your season on the line. Any time you put in a player with zero passes thrown in the regular season you can't expect him to be better than the worst experienced QB in the NFL, or at least much better, for that first year.

 

[sonnyboy]

Any time you replace a vetern player with someone who hasn't thrown any live passes in the NFL you are putting your season on the line. Any time you put in a player with zero passes thrown in the regular season you can't expect him to be better than the worst experienced QB in the NFL, or at least much better, for that first year.

Have to respectful disagree with you on that. If he's gonna be good he'll be good this year first week.
The only question is how good is he? Is he better than Bledsoe?

Any of you want to critique his play this summer? Anybody have as high an opinion of him as me?

 

[cml750]

Reading between the Parcells lines, I think he really really likes this kid and is seriuosly considering starting him this year.

If BP was serious about starting him then there is NO reason he should not be starting this week!!!!

 

[Silverstar]

The scariest thing about Romo is not just whether he can read a defense and throw a pass to his intended target...it's all the other things he has to deal with.

1. Can he really manage a game under pressure, on the road, in a hostile envronment when he can't even hear himself most of the time?

2. Can he take some vicious hits and get back up, call the next play and continue a drive? Remember, he was never allowed to be hit in preseason.

3. Can he throw the ball away in the redzone, to preserve a FG and not try to needle the ball in coverage?

4. Can he protect the ball when he scrambles up the middle and not fumble it or learn to slide and not dive like a RB?

5. Can he play in adverse weather conditions like rain or snow and throw a wet ball without losing much accuracy?

6. Can he deal with adversity when he loses?...and he WILL lose some games.

7. Can he deal with disgruntled teammates like Owens or the wrath of Parcells when he screws up?....and he WILL screw up.

8. Can he simply handle being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys and all media scrutiny he will have to deal with...day in and day out?

Those are just some of the questions I have for him and I seriously doubt that his biggest trait to date, "MOXIE" can overcome all these things. Look, if you want Romo to have a "real" chance of succeeding, you're better off starting him next year from the get go. If he starts now, he'll be under more pressure than it takes to make a freakin diamond!


JMO

 

[Hostile]

What about this preseason Hos? Don't tell me you missed him this summer.

I only saw him on TV and what I saw this pre season was that Bledsoe clearly outplayed him. As much as I hate to say that.

 

[harkm]

I only saw him on TV and what I saw this pre season was that Bledsoe clearly outplayed him. As much as I hate to say that.

You have absolutely lost your mind.

 

[DBoys]

I only saw him on TV and what I saw this pre season was that Bledsoe clearly outplayed him. As much as I hate to say that.

Oh yeah Bledsoe rocked against the Vikings

 

[Martice]

1. Can he really manage a game under pressure, on the road, in a hostile envronment when he can't even hear himself most of the time?

Only time will tell. In fact, to expect that ability from anyone other than a veteran or gifted individual is really reaching. Hell Drew is questionable in this area as well.

2. Can he take some vicious hits and get back up, call the next play and continue a drive? Remember, he was never allowed to be hit in preseason..

Remember in the preseason when Tony was hit from behind in the backfield. It was a good hit. We were left with 3 and like 25. Romo simply came back and completed the first down with a dart up the middle of the defense. Does this mean that he will be just as good in the regular season? No but it doesn't he won't either. Put him in.

3. Can he throw the ball in the redzone, to preserve a FG and not try to needle the ball in coverage?

Play him and let's find out. Also, something Drew struggles with. In fact, he will throw the ball away even when there is no pressure on him. He see's everyone is covered so he throws it away instead of using the time that he has in the pocket.

4. Can he protect the ball when he scrambles up the middle and not fumble it or learn to slide and not dive like a RB?

Put him in and find out. Once again, Drew sucks in this department.

5. Can he play in adverse weather conditions like rain or snow and throw a wet ball without losing much accuracy?

I'm not sure if he can or not but putting him in the game will sure let us know a lot about him.

6. Can he deal with adversity when he loses?...and he WILL lose some games.

THe first part will only be known once you put him in. The second question is already being handled by Drew and quite well I might add.

7. Can he deal with disgruntled teammates like Owens or the wrath of Parcells when he screws up?....and he WILL screw up.

I don't know if he can deal with TO but he damn sure tried during the Eagles game didn't he? Did you see him on the sideline talking to TO when everyone else but the punter stayed away from him?

8. Can he simply handle being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys and all media scrutiny he will have to deal with...day in and day out?

Put him in to find out.

Those are just some of the questions I have for him and I seriously doubt that his biggest trait to date, "MOXIE" can overcome all these things. Look, if you want Romo to have a "real" chance of succeeding, you're better off starting him next year from the get go. If he starts now, he'll be under more pressure than it takes to make a freakin diamond!

Well it's not as far a reach as you may think. Most of the points you've mentioned cannot be answered from the sidelines. The other points you made, Drew is already terrible at them already so what are we really losing?

Can Drew side step a rush?

Does Drew keep his head down field when he's under pressure?

Can Drew throw the touch pass? When teams are taking away your deep pass routes, you need to do work in the short and medium pass play areas. You need a QB that can get the pass out and quick. You need accuracy and timing is key. Drew can't do neither on a constistent basis and this we know already.

Does Drew look like a rookie while he is in the heat tank? YES!!! If this is the case, then what's the big deal if you have a youngster that looks like a rookie and a veteran that plays like one? The only hope is that the rookie improves his play because Drew is what he is.... A 14 year rookie.

The drop off is not as large as some may think and I honestly believe that.