Romo using Flacco's big contract as leverage

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weaver21;5016418 said:
Can't wait until Romo leaves and we're stuck looking for our next quarterback for the next 5-7 years ... all your haters will be eating your words and then you'll truly understand how important and vital Romo was to this team.

These threads always succeed in showing who's a Dallas Cowboys fan and who's a Tony Romo fan.

Why the heck would you want to see our team lose?! To prove some kind of point that Romo's the best thing we ever had? Good lord, never seen anything like it... The gushing over a player who's brought nothing to a franchise. Lets start another Romo>Aikman thread while we're at it.
 

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weaver21;5016418 said:
Can't wait until Romo leaves and we're stuck looking for our next quarterback for the next 5-7 years ... all your haters will be eating your words and then you'll truly understand how important and vital Romo was to this team.

So you're actually wishing for a bad 5-7 years just to prove Romo was important? That's not being a Cowboys fan! Answer this, what has the team done thats makes Romo so important? One playoff win? Oh yeah, without Romo the team would be even worse. Maybe true, but's it's also possible they would have drafted a real QB at some point over the past five years and we would be much better off.
 

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One thing I'm fuzzy on.

Since Romo has voidable years after next year, does that make him un-franchiseable in 2014?
 

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erod;5016436 said:
One thing I'm fuzzy on.

Since Romo has voidable years after next year, does that make him un-franchiseable in 2014?

It just makes the amount a ridiculously prohibitive number (more than 20M)
 

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TheFinisher;5016427 said:
These threads always succeed in showing who's a Dallas Cowboys fan and who's a Tony Romo fan.

Why the heck would you want to see our team lose?! To prove some kind of point that Romo's the best thing we ever had? Good lord, never seen anything like it... The gushing over a player who's brought nothing to a franchise. Lets start another Romo>Aikman thread while we're at it.

When the hell did I ever say I wanted to Cowboys to lose? I'm pointing out that the fact that these Romo haters think some rookie quarterback can come in here and do better than him and that's just not the case. Risen Star has said it multiple times ... there is no quarterback in the league that can win this offensive line ... not Brady, not Brees, Manning ... no one. Some damn rookie quarterback is not gonna come in here and change things for the better. Fans here are impatient like crazy and are desperate for playoff success, but then some suggest we get rid of our quarterback who is a top 10 player at his position? That makes no sense. If you can add pieces around Romo, like some offensive lineman, he can get us deep into the playoffs and Super Bowl. I guarantee that.

Look what the guy has constantly gone through ... terrible offensive lines year after year, terrible defenses, an impotent offensive coordinator and a delusional owner who has refused to build around him. Romo may be a choker and may not have that killer instinct, but that's not because he ain't talented ... it's because he thinks he has to everything by himself. I can guarantee you everytime Romo drops back in that pocket, he has no confidence his offensive line can proect him. Do you think Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning have those doubts behind their offensive lines?

The only person I can think of that plays behind a similar offensive line is Aaron Rodgers, but come on Rodgers is arguably the most talented quarterback in the league. Add to the fact he was helped by a defense that created 30+ takeaways for him the year he won the Super Bowl ... when has Romo had that help from his defense? Never.
 

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TheFinisher;5016427 said:
These threads always succeed in showing who's a Dallas Cowboys fan and who's a Tony Romo fan.

Why the heck would you want to see our team lose?! To prove some kind of point that Romo's the best thing we ever had? Good lord, never seen anything like it... The gushing over a player who's brought nothing to a franchise. Lets start another Romo>Aikman thread while we're at it.

I think most Romo fans are Danny White fans, too. Just Cowboys fans, that's all.
 

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weaver21;5016459 said:
When the hell did I ever say I wanted to Cowboys to lose? I'm pointing out that the fact that these Romo haters think some rookie quarterback can come in here and do better than him and that's just not the case. Risen Star has said it multiple times ... there is no quarterback in the league that can win this offensive line... not Brady, not Brees, Manning ... no one. Some damn rookie quarterback is not gonna come in here and change things for the better.Fans here are impatient like crazy and are desperate for playoff success, but then some suggest we get rid of our quarterback who is a top 10 player at his position? That makes no sense. If you can add pieces around Romo, like some offensive lineman, he can get us deep into the playoffs and Super Bowl. I guarantee that.

Look what the guy has constantly gone through ... terrible offensive lines year after year, terrible defenses, an impotent offensive coordinator and a delusional owner who has refused to build around him. Romo may be a choker and may not have that killer instinct, but that's not because he ain't talented ... it's because he thinks he has to everything by himself. I can guarantee you everytime Romo drops back in that pocket, he has no confidence his offensive line can proect him. Do you think Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning have those doubts behind their offensive lines?

The only person I can think of that plays behind a similar offensive line is Aaron Rodgers, but come on Rodgers is arguably the most talented quarterback in the league. Add to the fact he was helped by a defense that created 30+ takeaways for him the year he won the Super Bowl ... when has Romo had that help from his defense? Never.

40 year old Jon Kitna went 5-5 behind the same line Romo went 1-5 behind and posted similar numbers. He actually had the best year of his career. How does that happen if what you're saying is true?
 

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Tony Romo is living proof that a quarterback doesn't have to have a sterling postseason record to land an enormous contract. That's what happens when you work for Jerry Jones, a man whose blind loyalty to players has given many of them generational wealth.

Romo has the Cowboys completely over the barrel because of his unique talent to play the most important position on the field, and the organization's refusal to attempt to draft his successor. The Cowboys hit the lottery by signing Romo as an undrafted rookie out of Eastern Illinois in 2003, although they've never quite reaped any significant rewards from his prolific numbers.

On the surface, it seemed ludicrous to hear that Romo and his agent were waiting to see Joe Flacco's money come in before to attempting to strike a deal with the Cowboys. Flacco rolled the dice by playing into his contract year — and probably made himself an extra $20 million or so. The Ravens didn't mind paying a premium because they have another Lombardi to stare at every day.

But none other than Jerry Jones admitted that Romo was likely waiting to see what happened with Flacco. Romo might only have one playoff win since taking over the starting job six games into the '06 season, but he still has a tremendous amount of leverage.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/0...obile_landing.html?blockID=873975&feedID=4680

that would be idiotic. flacco has won as many playoff games as montana and now a superbowl. romo can't compare any of this stats to that....
 

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weaver21;5016459 said:
When the hell did I ever say I wanted to Cowboys to lose? I'm pointing out that the fact that these Romo haters think some rookie quarterback can come in here and do better than him and that's just not the case. Risen Star has said it multiple times ... there is no quarterback in the league that can win this offensive line ... not Brady, not Brees, Manning ... no one. Some damn rookie quarterback is not gonna come in here and change things for the better. Fans here are impatient like crazy and are desperate for playoff success, but then some suggest we get rid of our quarterback who is a top 10 player at his position? That makes no sense. If you can add pieces around Romo, like some offensive lineman, he can get us deep into the playoffs and Super Bowl. I guarantee that.

Look what the guy has constantly gone through ... terrible offensive lines year after year, terrible defenses, an impotent offensive coordinator and a delusional owner who has refused to build around him. Romo may be a choker and may not have that killer instinct, but that's not because he ain't talented ... it's because he thinks he has to everything by himself. I can guarantee you everytime Romo drops back in that pocket, he has no confidence his offensive line can proect him. Do you think Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning have those doubts behind their offensive lines?

The only person I can think of that plays behind a similar offensive line is Aaron Rodgers, but come on Rodgers is arguably the most talented quarterback in the league. Add to the fact he was helped by a defense that created 30+ takeaways for him the year he won the Super Bowl ... when has Romo had that help from his defense? Never.

So saying you can't wait until Romo leaves and we're stuck looking for a QB for 5-7 years doesn't mean you can't wait to see the team lose even worse than it does now? Are we supposed to assume you mean the team will be winning but won't have a QB as good as Romo? That makes no sense. You should just take back what you posted and say it was a poor choice of words and be done with it.
 

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Cowboys22;5016472 said:
So saying you can't wait until Romo leaves and we're stuck looking for a QB for 5-7 years doesn't mean you can't wait to see the team lose even worse than it does now? Are we supposed to assume you mean the team will be winning but won't have a QB as good as Romo? That makes no sense. You should just take back what you posted and say it was a poor choice of words and be done with it.

I'm trying to say fans on here don't appreciate Romo enough and when he leaves, whenever that may be, I feel like they will appreciate him more because I personally believe we will be looking for his successor for several years and they will realize how talented and vital he was to our team for all these years. It happened when Aikman left and I believe it will happen again. Of course I don't want it to happen, I want them to find a young quarterback who can come in and succeed with this team. Past history has shown me though that it will be tough for Jerry to find Romo's successor because he struggled to find Aikman's successor for so many years.
 

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TheFinisher;5016469 said:
40 year old Jon Kitna went 5-5 behind the same line Romo went 1-5 behind and posted similar numbers. He actually had the best year of his career. How does that happen if what you're saying is true?

Let's not ignore the enormous change in how the team played that took place with Coach Cupcake being fired. Kitna went 0-2 with 2 TDs and 6 INTs when he had the same head coach, culture, and supporting cast as Romo.
 

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weaver21;5016476 said:
I'm trying to say fans on here don't appreciate Romo enough and when he leaves, whenever that may be, I feel like they will appreciate him more because I personally believe we will be looking for his successor for several years and they will realize how talented and vital he was to our team for all these years. It happened when Aikman left and I believe it will happen again. Of course I don't want it to happen, I want them to find a young quarterback who can come in and succeed with this team. Past history has shown me though that it will be tough for Jerry to find Romo's successor because he struggled to find Aikman's successor for so many years.

We've missed the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years. What are you so afraid of if Romo leaves? It isn't like we've been successful with him anyway...
 

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Nation;5016481 said:
Let's not ignore the enormous change in how the team played that took place with Coach Cupcake being fired. Kitna went 0-2 with 2 TDs and 6 INTs when he had the same head coach, culture, and supporting cast as Romo.

5-5 as opposed to 1-5, same stats.

What everyone fails to realize is QBs would KILL to have Witten, Dez and Miles as their top targets. Romo has one of the best supporting casts on offense as there is in the NFL and we were the worst 1st half offense in the league. Mark Sanchez did more with Clyde Gates, Jeremy Kerley and Jeff Cumberland as his 3 targets.

The excuses have gotten ridiculous with this guy. Just win.
 

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TheFinisher;5016483 said:
We've missed the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years. What are you so afraid of if Romo leaves? It isn't like we've been successful with him anyway...

I'm afraid we're gonna go through the same thing we went through with Dave Campo ... constant 5-11 seasons. Look at the Cleveland Browns ... they've been terrible for the last 10 years and have all those bad seasons helped them? Sure, they've got a couple good, young players but they have no quarterback and it's killed them. Kansas City Chiefs ... 6 Pro Bowlers last year, yet they went 2-14. Why? Because they had no quarterback.

I don't feel confident Jerry Jones can find our next quarterback. Look at the quarterbacks we went through after Aikman ... Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson ... those guys were terrible. You want go through that crap again? Hell, we got lucky with Romo because he was a undrafted free agent, not some 1st or 2nd round draft pick.
 

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weaver21;5016476 said:
I'm trying to say fans on here don't appreciate Romo enough and when he leaves, whenever that may be, I feel like they will appreciate him more because I personally believe we will be looking for his successor for several years and they will realize how talented and vital he was to our team for all these years. It happened when Aikman left and I believe it will happen again. Of course I don't want it to happen, I want them to find a young quarterback who can come in and succeed with this team. Past history has shown me though that it will be tough for Jerry to find Romo's successor because he struggled to find Aikman's successor for so many years.

See, I think alot of fans here did appreciate Romo very much but he has continued to let them down at the most important times. I think everyone acknowledges that he has put up very nice stats and has improved the teams chances to win since the Carter, Henson, and Hutchinson days but some have given up hope that he can win a super bowl. I don't think its unreasonable at this point to hold that opinion and those that do should not be labeled haters. I don't hate Romo and would gladly proclaim I gave up on him too soon if he were to lead the team to a super bowl victory. Nothing would please me more because I'm a Cowboys fan first. I want the team to win and not be stuck in a rut with a QB that won't get them a trophy. Because I feel that way doesn't mean I want Romo to fail, it simply means I don't think he is the guy and they shouldn't give him a massive payday for his personal stats without the team results. I realize it is not all his fault but no one can deny he has wilted in win or go home games.
 

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TheFinisher;5016492 said:
5-5 as opposed to 1-5, same stats.

What everyone fails to realize is QBs would KILL to have Witten, Dez and Miles as their top targets. Romo has one of the best supporting casts on offense as there is in the NFL and we were the worst 1st half offense in the league. Mark Sanchez did more with Clyde Gates, Jeremy Kerley and Jeff Cumberland as his 3 targets.

The excuses have gotten ridiculous with this guy. Just win.

Sanchez also had the 4th ranked rushing attack in the league and 3rd ranked defense in the NFL that season. Romo has never had that. You're just making yourself look stupid now.
 

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TheFinisher;5016492 said:
What everyone fails to realize is QBs would KILL to have Witten, Dez and Miles as their top targets.

What you fail to realize is that most QBs would be KILLED with this offensive line protecting them.
 

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weaver21;5016493 said:
I'm afraid we're gonna go through the same thing we went through with Dave Campo ... constant 5-11 seasons. Look at the Cleveland Browns ... they've been terrible for the last 10 years and have all those bad seasons helped them? Sure, they've got a couple good, young players but they have no quarterback and it's killed them. Kansas City Chiefs ... 6 Pro Bowlers last year, yet they went 2-14. Why? Because they had no quarterback.

I don't feel confident Jerry Jones can find our next quarterback. Look at the quarterbacks we went through after Aikman ... Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson ... those guys were terrible. You want go through that crap again? Hell, we got lucky with Romo because he was a undrafted free agent, not some 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

QBs are coming out of college more talented and better prepared than ever. When you need one you draft one high, rinse and repeat. This isn't rocket science. Quit acting like there's no life after Romo.
 

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weaver21;5016499 said:
Sanchez also had the 4th ranked rushing attack in the league and 3rd ranked defense in the NFL that season. Romo has never had that. You're just making yourself look stupid now.

Romo had the 2nd ranked defense the year he won his elusive playoff game and fell flat against Minnesota. Top 10 defense and rushing game in 07 too, the year we went 13-3... The year he went to cabo before the divisional round.
 

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weaver21;5016493 said:
I'm afraid we're gonna go through the same thing we went through with Dave Campo ... constant 5-11 seasons. Look at the Cleveland Browns ... they've been terrible for the last 10 years and have all those bad seasons helped them? Sure, they've got a couple good, young players but they have no quarterback and it's killed them. Kansas City Chiefs ... 6 Pro Bowlers last year, yet they went 2-14. Why? Because they had no quarterback.

I don't feel confident Jerry Jones can find our next quarterback. Look at the quarterbacks we went through after Aikman ... Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson ... those guys were terrible. You want go through that crap again? Hell, we got lucky with Romo because he was a undrafted free agent, not some 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

Sometimes you just have to let go and have faith they learned from those days and would go hard for a real QB in the draft or free agency instead of trying to find them cheap. What is the real difference between 5-11 and 8-8? Not much other than about 8-10 draft spots. When you conclude your QB will never win you a super bowl, it's time to move on even if his stats are okay. Some fans have reached that point on Romo and some obviously haven't.
 
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