Romo using Flacco's big contract as leverage

[weaver21]

Romo had the 2nd ranked defense the year he won his elusive playoff game.

Exactly. We went 11-5 that season and actually managed to win a playoff game. We had a top 5 defense and top 10 rushing attack and it helped him out greatly. It was the best season in the Tony Romo era. Since then, Romo hasn't come close to having that kind of help around him. He proved that season that with the right weapons around him and help from his defense, he can lead us deep into the playoffs.

 

[TheFinisher]

Exactly. We went 11-5 that season and actually managed to win a playoff game. We had a top 5 defense and top 10 rushing attack and it helped him out greatly. It was the best season in the Tony Romo era. Since then, Romo hasn't come close to having that kind of help around him. He proved that season that with the right weapons around him and help from his defense, he can lead us deep into the playoffs.

How did he prove that? By scoring 3 points in the divisional round?

 

[weaver21]

Sometimes you just have to let go and have faith they learned from those days and would go hard for a real QB in the draft or free agency instead of trying to find them cheap. What is the real difference between 5-11 and 8-8? Not much other than about 8-10 draft spots. When you conclude your QB will never win you a super bowl, it's time to move on even if his stats are okay. Some fans have reached that point on Romo and some obviously haven't.

Sorry, but I truly believe with a solid offensive line around him and a top 10 defense to help him out, he can win us a Super Bowl. Most people won't agree with it, but that's my thinking.

 

[weaver21]

How did he prove that? By scoring 3 points in the divisional round?

Come on now, he was sacked 7 times in that game and was under constant pressure after Flozell went out. Add to the fact the defense completely folded that game as well. He didn't play well, but he also was facing constant pressure all game.

 

[TheFinisher]

Sorry, but I truly believe with a solid offensive line around him and a top 10 defense to help him out, he can win us a Super Bowl. Most people won't agree with it, but that's my thinking.

How does that make him any different than Alex Smith or Mark Sanchez?

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

I don't understand why people say "Brady won this" or "Manning won that" as if the QB is the only player on the field!!

Someone mentioned Staubach made ordinary men great, but that's simply not true at all! He played with so many HOF-ers or all time greats. So did Aikman!

QB does not, nor has he ever, won a single game. Someone had to make plays for them like Branch did for his QB or the Bears D did for McMahon.

It's frustrating to see our QB, get more crap from our "fans" than they they give to other teams players, like Vick or Manning. Can they see anything beyond the outcome of a game? Like beating a dead horse on this subject!

Flacco put the ravens on his back this year, he played out of his mind in the playoffs, they don't even come close to winning the sb without him.

At some point you can't keep doing the same thing over and over again when its not working. Romo has done some good things as the qb of this team, but its time to admit the fact that this guy is not capable of getting us over the hump.

 

[weaver21]

How does that make him any different than Alex Smith or Mark Sanchez?

Romo is ten times more talented those two combined and they were both top 10 draft picks. The Jets and 49ers both would've won Super Bowls in those years if they had a different quarterback. Look at the 49ers now with Kaepernick, who is a much better quarterback than Smith. And the Jets ... haha, Sanchez is one of the worst quarterbacks in the league and look at him now without any help from his rushing attack or defense ... he's nothing.

 

[weaver21]

Flacco put the ravens on his back this year, he played out of his mind in the playoffs, they don't even come close to winning the sb without him.

At some point you can't keep doing the same thing over and over again when its not working. Romo has done some good things as the qb of this team, but its time to admit the fact that this guy is not capable of getting us over the hump.

If it wasn't for a mishap in the secondary, the Ravens don't even beat the Broncos. Not trying to downside Flacco's play because he was great, but that's the truth. Denver's secondary blew that game.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

If it wasn't for a mishap in the secondary, the Ravens don't even beat the Broncos. Not trying to downside Flacco's play because he was great, but that's the truth. Denver's secondary blew that game.

That is part of football, if asante samuel could hold onto a routine int, people would still be calling eli manning a scrub. The mishap in the secondary happened, and flacco took advantage of it.

 

[DFWJC]

Sorry, but I truly believe with a solid offensive line around him and a top 10 defense to help him out, he can win us a Super Bowl. Most people won't agree with it, but that's my thinking.

You'd be surprised how many DO agree that he is capable.

But it's really hard to prove until you actually have a decent line (not great), good defense, and serviceable running game. Or until you actually do it.

Always the easiest answer is to say a QB (ANY QB) cannot win a SB.

A person saying that has the odds strongly in their favor. They are right every year until it finally happens--if ever.
They could have been right many years regarding Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, for for Marino's whole acreer. Most of Elways' career too. After Brady's last SB win way back in 2004, they could have said he'd never win another one and would still be right 8 years later. Etc, etc....

 

[Cowboys22]

Sorry, but I truly believe with a solid offensive line around him and a top 10 defense to help him out, he can win us a Super Bowl. Most people won't agree with it, but that's my thinking.

That's fine and it's your right to have that opinion. However, there are a lot of QBs that could be just as good or better with a solid OL and a top 10 defense. I think I might go with someone else besides a known choker if I managed to put together a good OL and top 10 defense. I certainly wouldn't give him $16-18 million a year until he wins 2 playoff games in the same year.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

We've missed the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years. What are you so afraid of if Romo leaves? It isn't like we've been successful with him anyway...

This is the laziest, most pin-headed argument permeating this forum today. It can literally be applied to almost any circumstance surrounding a team. You could've used it on some of the greatest champions in the history of sports for long stretches of time. I thought QB wins were lazy, but Romo haters have found an even newer low.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

This is the laziest, most pin-headed argument permeating this forum today. It can literally be applied to almost any circumstance surrounding a team. You could've used it on some of the greatest champions in the history of sports for long stretches of time. I thought QB wins were lazy, but Romo haters have found an even newer low.

The guy played terrible in two win in your in the playoff games in a row.

 

[weaver21]

The guy played terrible in two win in your in the playoff games in a row.

He played bad against Washington, but he actually played well against the Giants in 2011. I believe he had a 106.0 quarterback rating with a couple of touchdown passes and managed to get us back in the game. The defense let him down against the Giants.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

He played bad against Washington, but he actually played well against the Giants in 2011. I believe he had a 106.0 quarterback rating with a couple of touchdown passes and managed to get us back in the game. The defense let him down against the Giants.

He put up 14 points,and did next to nothing in the first half. Yes he got us back in the game, but if we would have played better in the first half we might have had a chance.

 

[DFWJC]

The guy played terrible in two win in your in the playoff games in a row.

See. This shows how lazy some of you guys can be on this topic.
Even while playing with a football-sized hand last year, he completed an absurd 78% of his passes, had 2TDs, 1 int, and a 106 passer rating.
That game was over before it started though.

They should have beaten the Giants in the Dallas home game instead. Even then, Romo had maybe the best regular season game in NFL history in a losing effort. How do you throw for 400 yards, have 4 TDs, 0 ints, and a 141 passer rating and lose! It's insane.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

See. This shows how lazy some of you guys can be on this topic.
Even while playing with a football-sized hand last year, he completed an absurd 78% of his passes, had 2TDs, 1 int, and a 106 passer rating.
That game was over before it started though.

They should have beaten the Giants in the Dallas home game instead. Even then, Romo had maybe the best regular season game in NFL history in a losing effort. How do you throw for 400 yards, have 4 TDs, 0 ints, and a 141 passer rating and lose! It's insane.

The game wasn't over before he started, romo did nothing in the first half.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

See. This shows how lazy some of you guys can be on this topic.
Even while playing with a football-sized hand last year, he completed an absurd 78% of his passes, had 2TDs, 1 int, and a 106 passer rating.
That game was over before it started though.

They should have beaten the Giants in the Dallas home game instead. Even then, Romo had maybe the best regular season game in NFL history in a losing effort. How do you throw for 400 yards, have 4 TDs, 0 ints, and a 141 passer rating and lose! It's insane.

That's how little brainpower that Romo haters put into it. A win in either of the two Giants game clinches the division on the spot. In the two games Romo has 6 TDs and 1 INT. Defense gives up like 75 points combined. Romo hater conclusion: it's Romo's fault we're not in the playoffs.

 

[DFWJC]

The game wasn't over before he started, romo did nothing in the first half.

I know on one of the fiurst plays, cruz had a 74 yard TD.
I know Romo was playing with a deformed hand and got sacked 6 times and pounded on all day long. It was 21-0 before we knew what hit us.
Yet somehow, you look the other way on the rest of the team and find a way to point at him.
We had no chance in that game. And the Giants proceded to do to everyone else what they did to us that day over the next 4 weeks to win the Super Bowl.

Anyhow, I falling into that old trap again of going around and around with Romo detractors.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

I know on one of the fiurst plays, cruz had a 74 yard TD.
I know Romo was playing with a deformed hand and got sacked 6 times and pounded on all day long. It was 21-0 before we knew what hit us.
Yet somehow, you look the other way on the rest of the team and find a way to point at him.
We had no chance in that game. And the Giants proceded to do to everyone else what they did to us that day over the next 4 weeks to win the Super Bowl.

So you can't overcome a 74 yard td by the other team? They didn't fumble the kickoff two times after that td to make it 21-0, romo had his chances to answer, and he didn't. You can't use an injury as an excuse if you play, if your are that hurt, dont' play.