Romo vs Staubach and Aikman

[big dog cowboy]

11 players on the field, 6 points for TD, 3 points for a FG, must tackle well, must block well, must not turn the ball over, must create turn overs and the goal has always been to outscore your opponent. TV coverage has changed, players have changed, fans have changed, but football has really stayed the same.

Uh, no.

 

[coogrfan]

11 players on the field, 6 points for TD, 3 points for a FG, must tackle well, must block well, must not turn the ball over, must create turn overs and the goal has always been to outscore your opponent. TV coverage has changed, players have changed, fans have changed, but football has really stayed the same.

http://pfref.com/tiny/N2FVS


In the 1970's there was only one QB who passed for 4000+ yards in a season.

In the 1980's that number jumped to 14.

In the 1990's there were 22.

In the 2000's there were 46.

In the 2010's there have already been 58 4000+ yards seasons.

You were saying?

 

[KJJ]

11 players on the field, 6 points for TD, 3 points for a FG, must tackle well, must block well, must not turn the ball over, must create turn overs and the goal has always been to outscore your opponent. TV coverage has changed, players have changed, fans have changed, but football has really stayed the same.

Someone has been spending too much time in Margaritaville.

 

[willia451]

Are you kidding? They had one of the best teams in league and lost after a bye. He had talent for years. Just wrong! AGAIN, love Tony and had his back here for years but reality is he squandered games when they counted early in his career. The mature Tony from last 3 years when healthy was off and on in early years and in big games he sunk. Great talent but Roger and Troy did this when counted

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1483892-the-best-postseason-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history

9) Roger Staubach

Titles: 2

Title Appearances: 5

Postseason Victories: 11

Postseason Winning Percentage: .647

One of only six quarterbacks with at least four Super Bowl starts, Roger Staubach is a two-time winner and came away with the game's MVP honor in Super Bowl VI—becoming one of just four players to win both this MVP and the Heisman Trophy (as listed on the Jim Plunkett slide).

Staubach lost two Super Bowl starts by a combined total of only eight points.

Had the Dallas Cowboys been on the winning end of those games, we may be looking at the greatest postseason quarterback in NFL history with Staubach.

7) Troy Aikman


Titles: 3

Title Appearances: 3

Postseason Victories: 11

Postseason Winning Percentage: .733

Though Troy Aikman's regular-season statistics don't necessarily scream off the page, his postseason resume is one to marvel over.

Leading the Dallas Cowboys to three Super Bowl titles in a four-year span in the early and mid 1990s, Aikman was the leader of one of the greatest runs in NFL history.

Aikman was named the MVP of Super Bowl XXVII after throwing for 273 yards and four touchdowns in the Cowboys' 52-17 victory over the Buffalo Bills.

Then how do you explain Troy saying Tony is a better QB than he ever was?

Are you calling Troy a liar? Not sure what you are saying.

 

[Miller]

Then how do you explain Troy saying Tony is a better QB than he ever was?

Are you calling Troy a liar? Not sure what you are saying.

Troy says a lot of stuff. He's a commentator and a humble guy. There are very few if any football experts out there that put Tony above Troy. Troy responds to criticisms of players he finds unwarranted. Tony has always had unwarranted criticism and he still is a Cowboy alum that supports the team. Emmitt just said Elliott is better than him. You think this is true?

 

[jnday]

Then how do you explain Troy saying Tony is a better QB than he ever was?

Are you calling Troy a liar? Not sure what you are saying.

Troy is that kind of guy. He is very modest and is not the type to want attention. Troy has never been the type to want credit for much at all. It is called having class.

 

[SuspectCorner]

If Romo EVER had the kind of defenses Roger and Troy excelled playing with - he'd plotz.

 

[WillieBeamen]

If Romo EVER had the kind of defenses Roger and Troy excelled playing with - he'd plotz.

2009

#2 ranked defense

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

2009

#2 ranked defense

Some act like Tony didn't have any good teams during his time here.

 

[mattjames2010]

2009

#2 ranked defense

And he made the playoffs, before they allowed Favre to put up 30 points on them.

Regular season statistics mean nothing if a D can't produce in the playoffs.

 

[Jstopper]

2009

#2 ranked defense

Did you watch that game where the Vikings destroyed the cowboys on both sides of the ball? Gtfoh

 

[WillieBeamen]

Did you watch that game where the Vikings destroyed the cowboys on both sides of the ball? Gtfoh

Yea i Guess his 3 turnovers didnt play a factor in any of those points given up either...


But I get it. He needs everything to be perfect around him to win big games. You probably think he wasnt at fault in the season finale in 2012 either right?

 

[mattjames2010]

Yea i Guess his 3 turnovers didnt play a factor in any of those points given up either...


But I get it. He needs everything to be perfect around him to win big games. You probably think he wasnt at fault in the season finale in 2012 either right?

Oh, you mean the 2 fumbles he had because our offensive line was showing their age and couldn't stop an impressive defensive front? Or that INT he threw when targeting Austin when the game was looking to be out of reach anyways?

How about giving some context.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Oh, you mean the 2 fumbles he had because our offensive line was showing their age and couldn't stop an impressive defensive front? Or that INT he threw when targeting Austin when the game was looking to be out of reach anyways?

How about giving some context.

So was the line and defense was good enough all season and the week before?

Like I said, you guys act as if Romo hasnt had good teams here at all.

 

[mattjames2010]

So was the line and defense was good enough all season and the week before?

Like I said, you guys act as if Romo hasnt had good teams here at all.

Wrong, I even stated in this thread he had 3 good teams: 2007, 2009, and 2014. The best was 2014, and Romo was the reason we didn't advance against Green Bay. Two evenly matched teams, on controversial call, and we had to pack and go home. That's how it goes sometimes. 07, we played a team that didn't give up 20 points throughout the playoffs and stopped one of the most impressive offenses in NFL history to win the Super Bowl.

And what point are you making about the 09 team? No, our offensive line WASN'T great all season, Romo was sacked 34 times and was running for his life in many games. What our defense did in the regular season and against the Eagles didn't matter, they blew it against the Vikings.

Because you continue to miss it: The point the entire time has been, Romo has never and will never have a team like the 90s Cowboys.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Wrong, I even stated in this thread he had 3 good teams: 2007, 2009, and 2014. The best was 2014, and Romo was the reason we didn't advance against Green Bay. Two evenly matched teams, on controversial call, and we had to pack and go home. That's how it goes sometimes. 07, we played a team that didn't give up 20 points throughout the playoffs and stopped one of the most impressive offenses in NFL history to win the Super Bowl.

And what point are you making about the 09 team? No, our offensive line WASN'T great all season, Romo was sacked 34 times and was running for his life in many games. What our defense did in the regular season and against the Eagles didn't matter, they blew it against the Vikings.

Because you continue to miss it: The point the entire time has been, Romo has never and will never have a team like the 90s Cowboys.

If you want to sit here and pretend that Romo didnt have a good team/defense in 09, that was capable of winning the Super Bowl, then shame on you.

That was a good team that year. Remember we went in to New Orleans, and beat the eventual Super Bowl champions when they were 13-0?

For the last time, Romo has had opportunities to advance far in the playoffs and he hasnt done it.

Lol at you copping pleas for us losing to the Giants in 07, when we dominated them both times we played them in the Regular Season.

 

[mattjames2010]

If you want to sit here and pretend that Romo didnt have a good team/defense in 09, that was capable of winning the Super Bowl, then shame on you.

That was a good team that year. Remember we went in to New Orleans, and beat the eventual Super Bowl champions when they were 13-0?

For the last time, Romo has had opportunities to advance far in the playoffs and he hasnt done it.

Lol at you copping pleas for us losing to the Giants in 07, when we dominated them both times we played them in the Regular Season.

Did you even read my post? I said he had 3 good teams, I'm not going to repeat that again. I SAID the 09 team was good, READ please. New England also beat the Giants in the regular season, and didn't beat them in the Super Bowl. They were a better team than us.

Your arguments have been terrible up to this point. This is over.

 

[csirl]

I miss the days when fans Cowboy could talk smack and be arrogant because they had the team to back it up. It disgust me to see the state of the modern fans that clings to jag players and defends mediocrity. How can any sane person defend a 4-12 season? They should even try. Fans during the Landry years would not have tolerated these last 20 years.

Agree. We ended the season ranked #29. We've never been ranked this low ever before...though there weren't as many teams in past eras. Anyone who thinks a #29 can be turned around in a year is nuts. Multi year rebuilding necessary.

 

[csirl]

Much of Romos career has been marred by bad throws and mental errors. Like it or not a significant portion of Romos career was spent like this. You cant disregard this because hes improved recently. He also sat on the bench for years and so was never thrown into the fire with little experience.

Aikman never went through a bad throws/mental errors phase and performed straight out of the box on the worst team in the league.

 

[mattjames2010]

Much of Romos career has been marred by bad throws and mental errors. Like it or not a significant portion of Romos career was spent like this. You cant disregard this because hes improved recently. He also sat on the bench for years and so was never thrown into the fire with little experience.

Aikman never went through a bad throws/mental errors phase and performed straight out of the box on the worst team in the league.

1989 - 9 TDs 18 INTs
1990 - 11 TDs 18 INTs
1994 - 13 TDs 12 INTs
1996 - 12 TDs 13 INTs

1994 playoff game against San Fran - 2 TDs, 3 INTs
1996 playoff game against Carolina - 1 TD 3 INTs
1998 playoff game against Arizona - 1 TD 3 INTs

Career Totals - 165 TDs, 141 INTs

Yeah, no mistakes or mental errors made by Aikman.