Roy Williams 31

[tyke1doe]

I can tell you what happen, but the thing that changed in Roy's life was the cause of his downfall. The problem is, that subject is off limits here at CBZ.

And, in this case, I'm glad. Unless Roy Williams said so, we shouldn't speculate in that area. All it does is cause controversy.

 

[YosemiteSam]

And, in this case, I'm glad. Unless Roy Williams said so, we shouldn't speculate in that area. All it does is cause controversy.

but, but, but, I love me some controversy!

 

[tyke1doe]

but, but, but, I love me some controversy!

Don't ... do ... it!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Don't ... do ... it!

Too late!

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I was basically joking. It certainly wasn't her fault.

If anything, he just got rich, fat and happy, so to speak. He enjoyed living the high life with a beautiful girl and lost his fire and desire to play football, IMO.

He was just more interested in having fun with his woman than playing football. It takes a lot of desire to stay at the top of this sport. Without it, you lose in the Oklahoma drills.

Every offseason this thread pops up and every offseason I give the same answer. He just didn't like football that much. All of the evidence is there, not necessarily before we drafted him, but certainly throughout his tenure. In an age where safeties were required to become more like CBs, he never had enough discipline controlling his weight and began looking more like a LB. He never put the work in watching film that most great players do, like a Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, which explains why he was constantly out of position.

One red flag that popped up during the pre draft process, was RW31 was asked how long does he see himself playing football and his answer was 8 years. Now the average NFL career is less than 8 years, but for a guy with his accolades, that answer was very telling.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I don't think it was the 3-4 per se, but just a different defense with different requirements and not having Woody there to teach him how to play in that defense. RW31 was not a cerebral type player.

Hit me on the head with a hammer, the next time I want to draft a dumb player - Jimmy Johnson

 

[Manwiththeplan]

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

Most of these are BS, I don't think the 3-4 defense, religion or Kelly Rowland factored in at all. The confidence and motivation issues are the main 2 imo.

 

[KJJ]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

He was a very good player his first few seasons with the Cowboys making a few pro bowls when he was a able to play closer to the line of scrimmage. Playing close to the line of scrimmage and making plays is what made Williams such a good player and a top 10 pick in 02. It all started coming apart for him when the Cowboys started having issues at corner and he had to help in coverage. The knock on him coming out of college was his coverage skills and he became a huge liability for the Cowboys in coverage. He was so dreadful in coverage he completely lost his confidence so much so he said in an interview that he felt lost out there. Due to his lack of speed he began trailing plays which resulted in a lot of horse collar tackles. When the NFL banned the horse collar tackle after TO was injured during a Williams horse collar his career went into a complete free fall. Can't think of many players who went from being so good to so bad in such a short period of time like RW31.

 

[CyberB0b]

Just watched him get destroyed on a Bengals version of Hard Knocks in the Oklahoma drill. This is a drill where two players pretty much run full speed into each other and see who wins.

To my point, what ever happened to this guy? Never in my life, in any sport, have I ever witnessed someone fall so low from being so high. I remember watching him and thinking he has the makings to be one of the best safeties in Cowboys history. It's not even like he only got exposed in coverage, he also became soft with his tackling. The Roy Williams rule was only when he was chasing, has nothing to do with head up contact. I know he supposedly was "reborn" with the church but it has to be something deeper then that. Damn Roy

Santanna Moss happened.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It was a confluence of many factors.

He said the 3-4 defense didn't fit his skill set.
Religion.
Hollywood type GF.
Big money caused loss of motivation.
Parcells probably burned out some players from football.
His violent style was probably not going to result in a long career.
Darren Woodson retiring.
Maybe some loss of confidence.
Probably got to fat.

He made a comment at one point something like he woke up one day and didn't feel like hitting people anymore.

I think this is a pretty good way to explain it.

It was one thing after another that eventually added up to him simply not being able to play effectively anymore.

 

[jaybird]

I was basically joking. It certainly wasn't her fault.

If anything, he just got rich, fat and happy, so to speak. He enjoyed living the high life with a beautiful girl and lost his fire and desire to play football, IMO.

He was just more interested in having fun with his woman than playing football. It takes a lot of desire to stay at the top of this sport. Without it, you lose in the Oklahoma drills.

i took that as a Joke, she's soft on the eyes. Roy's game went South after Darren Woodson. He had more coverage responsibility couldnt handle it. I was a fan, love him when he was making big hits. Really loved it when he picked Mc Flabb to win the game. Thats was a great day!!!!!!!

 

[AbeBeta]

I can tell you what happen, but the thing that changed in Roy's life was the cause of his downfall. The problem is, that subject is off limits here at CBZ.

He got into politics?

 

[Plumfool]

Roy isn't married to Kelly Rowland. Is now working in Ok as a reporter. And has a really cool foundation he's active in.

as far as what happened to Roy? Kept breaking his arm. In additon The rules changed. He became a star because of big hits. He played that way in OK. Played that way in the pros. When the rules changed his game quickly became archaic.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I seem to recall JJ was going to sign him to like a one day contract so he could retire a Cowboy as was his wish. Did that ever happen?

 

[guag]

Santanna Moss happened.

It always brightens my day when I read delirious comments from Commanders fans on Youtube (or anywhere else really). Thanks for that.

 

[Satchel89]

This guy is definitely a head scratcher. He looked so good his first couple of years. I was excited that they had a thumper in the secondary and then he just completely turned into an absolute joke. He got bad very quickly and then the Cowboys go and overpay for a receiver with the same name. Let's hope that's the last time we hear that name. Bad karma

 

[rynochop]

He got into politics?

Lol, nice one

 

[sideon]

This happened.

He was actually a very good player while he was with her, it's when he started messing with this radio host here in Dallas when his career tanked.

 

[JohnsKey19]

i knew it was over when the Titans RB easily stiff-armed into the ground like a chump during the preseason. That marked the beginning of the end for the Roy Williams, the feared SS.

 

[Doomsday101]