Roy Williams isnt who we thought he was

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I think it's safe to say Roy Williams hasnt and probably wont turn out to be the SS we all hoped for. he had a great rookie year and went down hill from there. Sure He makes plays and has good games but he isnt who we thought He would be, and that's a great SS.

So He is who he is..A average SS..Nothing more nothing less. He's not overrated or underrated..He's just average.


I wouldnt mind starting ball hawg Kieth Davis at Strong Safety...He's kind of like a roy williams, but he's faster. probably can cover better then Roy to:( .
 

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This a joke,right?

You made this out of sarcasm cuz of the other Roy thread already on the front page of this forum?


Please tell me this is a joke.
 

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I think someone had a little bit of too much "punch."
 

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I didnt even see the other Roy thread I just came Home from a hard days Work and thought about My Boy Roy Williams not living up to expectations...So I posted this.
 

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Dang man ,danged o' horse dead man ,stop kickin' 'em ,man gonna get damn o' peta in here ,man start trollin' 'round like danged o' stupid Commander fan, man danged o' danny snyder reminds me like a ole shetland pony man. aw heck man kick it again ,shoot man feel better already. Boomhower'd your silly butt.You like?:D
 

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DallasDomination;1719944 said:
I think it's safe to say Roy Williams hasnt and probably wont turn out to be the SS we all hoped for. he had a great rookie year and went down hill from there. Sure He makes plays and has good games but he isnt who we thought He would be, and that's a great SS.

So He is who he is..A average SS..Nothing more nothing less. He's not overrated or underrated..He's just average.


I wouldnt mind starting ball hawg Kieth Davis at Strong Safety...He's kind of like a roy williams, but he's faster. probably can cover better then Roy to:( .

You want to bench Roy and play Keith Davis at SS???

No offense dude, but I am so glad you are not the coach/GM of the team.

Keith Davis starting.........somebody has had too much "punch" tonight.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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ndanger;1719951 said:
Dang man ,danged o' horse dead man ,stop kickin' 'em ,man gonna get damn o' peta in here ,man start trollin' 'round like danged o' stupid Commander fan, man danged o' danny snyder reminds me like a ole shetland pony man. aw heck man kick it again ,shoot man feel better already. Boomhower'd your silly butt.You like?:D

Is it sad that I knew you were impersonating Boomhower (Before I read the end) eventhough I don't watch King of the Hill?
 

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Beast_from_East;1719952 said:
You want to bench Roy and play Keith Davis at SS???

No offense dude, but I am so glad you are not the coach/GM of the team.

Keith Davis starting.........somebody has had too much "punch" tonight.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

No offense taken...but I never said I want to start Kieth..I said I wouldnt mind. AS in, if it ever happened I wouldnt mind..Catch my drift beast?

I dont need to be drunk to know Roy Williams is Average...But if you wanna give me that Kool-aid your drinking I'll take it..maybe then i'll be totally satisfied with Beast Roy Williams.
 

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I dunno man if somebody could pop a cap on the sidelines ole' killa would prolly have some mad moves.He'd be all faster than a speeding bullet type fast.They can't even measure that kind of speed. :lmao2:
 

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ndanger;1719957 said:
I dunno man if somebody could pop a cap on the sidelines ole' killa would prolly have some mad moves.He'd be all faster than a speeding bullet type fast.They can't even measure that kind of speed. :lmao2:

If they replaced footballs with bullets, my man Keith Davis would lead the league in interceptions.
 

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Keith Davis got his chance to start last season and was absolutely dreadful in coverage. Pat Watkins was, too, but at least he was a rookie and had a chance to improve -- which he seems to have done. Davis is right where he should be, which is on special teams. Roy is FAR better than Davis in coverage, not to mention far better than an average strong safety.
 

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Why we didnt go after Sharper is beyond me. Roy is lost in coverage. Since Woodson left we have been without a true safety. I dont understand it.
 

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Honestly, guys, if he was as bad as some here like to say in coverage, you don't think we'd find someone else? If the root of all our coverage woes and defensive meltdowns over the last few years was him, you seriously don't believe a change would have happened by now?

The issue is, yes, he sometimes screws up, but most of the time he gets the blame for other peoples screw-ups because he's the one that seems to be caught on camera chasing people from the other side of the field.

Now, don't get me started on his interesting tackling technique....
 

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Better angle ...........would be for Wade P to swing Hamlin into the SS spot periodically with Watkins at FS.

do it enough so that the opposing offense couldnt game plan and scheme to get at Roy

Ya, Roy can hit...........but still gotta remember to wrap up..........this is the nfl...not gonna just blow everyone off their feet.....learn to tackle
 

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ndanger;1719951 said:
Dang man ,danged o' horse dead man ,stop kickin' 'em ,man gonna get damn o' peta in here ,man start trollin' 'round like danged o' stupid Commander fan, man danged o' danny snyder reminds me like a ole shetland pony man. aw heck man kick it again ,shoot man feel better already. Boomhower'd your silly butt.You like?:D

Oh my God!!! That is funny! :lmao: :lmao2:
 

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every year we are sold on a bill of goods that roy will be moved closer to the line where he can make plays. with the new defense, we all bought into it yet again. at almost mid season, one of two things must be true... either the staff is not making an effort to put him closer to the line or roy is simply overrated.
 

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I'm a RW homer - got the authentic to prove it - but to declare the guy average is a bit much. Granted, I want the CONSISTENT playmaker I saw in his rookie year, but for the most part, he is still a fearsome hitter, and I think his coverage skills have markedly improved this year.

Someone posted about him always being in the frame and getting blamed - case in point, against NE, on two post-game breakdowns of the game, it was pointed out how Hamlin overbit on play action resulting in plays over the top.

I'm sure someone can come in and post "yeah, but on this play.." My point is, there is something to be said for comfortability in a scheme. And I feel after his first year, RW was asked to play to his weaknesses as they were, and not his strengths - close to the line and instinctively. He was basically asked to take over as the de facto QB in the secondary with the sudden removal of Woodson.

This results in tentativeness - half a beat late on decisions resulting in big plays in the secondary - and stifling of aggressiveness - if I commit, does someone have my back?

That was not the plan when we drafted him and because of his draft status and hype, he became the whipping boy for all that ails the secondary. Look who he's played with since he's been here and tell me how he could play with abandon since his rookie year.

One cornerstone and that's been Newman. Otherwise, revolving door at the other corner and safety. And then the constant re-definitions of our safties, etc. was confusing as all get-out. Combine that with the subpar personnel we kept throwing back there and it's no wonder to me anyway, why he never looked comfortable.

When you draft a player its up to the coaches to plug that player into a scheme in a way for maximum success and outside of his first year and this one, that hasn't been the case for Williams.

I stick firm in my belief (and hope) that by the time we hit December and postseason this D, including Roy, will have their "sea legs" and we will see a CONSISTENT return of the playmaker we drafted.

But, you wouldn't mind Davis over Williams? I think a little too much time on your way home from work DD...
 
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