S Kenny Vaccaro Working Out w/ Cowboys on Wednesday

Vinnie2u

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Never really heard about Vaccaro until he was brought up in here. Is he that good or is it Longhorn Homerism. Just asking.
 

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Vinnie2u;5026963 said:
Never really heard about Vaccaro until he was brought up in here. Is he that good or is it Longhorn Homerism. Just asking.

You obviously like to hang out under rocks during draft time? That's my only explanation for you not hearing of Vaccaro before.
 

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pupulehaole;5026974 said:
You obviously like to hang out under rocks during draft time? That's my only explanation for you not hearing of Vaccaro before.

Ummm no. I was asking a serious question with no agenda. How does he compare to Barron. Who I knew about before draft time last year.
 

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Vinnie2u;5026981 said:
Ummm no. I was asking a serious question with no agenda. How does he compare to Barron. Who I knew about before draft time last year.

I think he can play as good as Barron...
 

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dwarecwby311;5026942 said:
would love for Vaccaro to be a cowboy, great safety at Texas

I would love em to. If is there at 18 and Wamack and Cooper aren't, then lets get him baby.
 

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jason54858;5026985 said:
I would love em to. If is there at 18 and Wamack and Cooper aren't, then lets get him baby.
I prefer oiline or dline in the 1st, but when you think of a secondary with Carr, Claiborne, Vaccaro, and Church, you can't help but smile.
 

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DFWJC;5026990 said:
I prefer oiline or dline in the 1st, but when you think of a secondary with Carr, Claiborne, Vaccaro, and Church, you can't help but smile.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on OL, but if those two Olinemen I previously mentioned aren't there I'd take the kid from Texas. Try to get Barrett Jones in the 2nd round or something.
 

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DFWJC;5026990 said:
I prefer oiline or dline in the 1st, but when you think of a secondary with Carr, Claiborne, Vaccaro, and Church, you can't help but smile.


Any errant passes should be picked off this year then with this secondary if that is the case. I am tired of horrible passes not get picked off. When I watch a team other than the cowboys, those passes seem to result in INT.
 

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Vinnie2u;5026981 said:
Ummm no. I was asking a serious question with no agenda. How does he compare to Barron. Who I knew about before draft time last year.

Completely different players. Barron is a thumper.. A run stopper.. A big hitter.. Can't cover, can't play the ball, and doesn't have much range. Vaccaro isn't the big hitter that Barron is but is a sure tackler with range and he can cover. I honestly like Vaccaro better for a modern NFL safety.. Guys who can't cover will be phased out.
 

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DFWJC;5026990 said:
I prefer oiline or dline in the 1st, but when you think of a secondary with Carr, Claiborne, Vaccaro, and Church, you can't help but smile.

You lost me at Church. I see Barry Church as maybe a guy who can play strong side linebacker on some downs. He does not have the range to be a safety in a Tampa 2. It's a position that calls for a large range of coverage ability.
 

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TheXFactor;5026793 said:
How does uh oh imply excitement? I guess it's just me but to me it sounds like "I might get drafted by the Cowboys, uh oh..."

"Uh oh" means....like "Uh Oh we're about to be a problem...".
 

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I watched a lot of highlights of Vaccaro on YouTube and wouldn't mind him being picked. I have my doubts because I would much rather they address the OL or DL with their 1st round pick.

I must admit: Vaccaro and Church (if he can return to form from injury) could help give us the best secondary in the league to go with Mo and Carr. But we still have to address OL to protect Romo and open holes for Murray; or we have to be able to stop the run and allow Lee and Carter make plays.

I guess we will see what they do.
 

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Vinnie2u;5026963 said:
Never really heard about Vaccaro until he was brought up in here. Is he that good or is it Longhorn Homerism. Just asking.

He's actually a good player, Texas homerism aside. If you watch the game against Tech, you can see he may take a bit of time to adjust to the NFL though. JMO.
 

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He is generally accepted as the best safety in this class. He has good range and plays the ball well in the air. He is a quick reacting safety, once he diagnosis the play he is gone and to the ball. He is always around the ball and IS a big hitter IMO. He tries to lay his shoulder into people too often. Its very frustrating to watch because he is a sound tackler at times. He played in the slot all year for Texas in nickle situations.

IMO he would be a great selection for the cowboys at 18. Some will argue that we will be stuck with two SS in Church and Vaccaro. I think he has the range to play in the tampa 2. He very well could be the top player on the board when we pick.
 

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Galian Beast;5027177 said:
You lost me at Church. I see Barry Church as maybe a guy who can play strong side linebacker on some downs. He does not have the range to be a safety in a Tampa 2. It's a position that calls for a large range of coverage ability.
John Lynch.

If you have a guy with less range, you just put him on the short side, giving the more rangy guy a lot more room.

Or, you simply move him down and play single high or cover 3. Just because cover 2 will be our base doesn't mean we are going to use it on every single play I woudln't think.
 

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XxTDxX;5027176 said:
Completely different players. Barron is a thumper.. A run stopper.. A big hitter.. Can't cover, can't play the ball, and doesn't have much range. Vaccaro isn't the big hitter that Barron is but is a sure tackler with range and he can cover. I honestly like Vaccaro better for a modern NFL safety.. Guys who can't cover will be phased out.

This is incorrect. Barron was a much higher rated safety for a reason. He had 12 career interceptions and 22 passes broken with Alabama. He also could thump with 13 TFL, and 5 sacks over his career. Vaccaro has 5 interceptions, 20 passes broken, 13 TFL, and 2 sacks in his career with Texas. While this all means little to how they perform on the big stage, Barron was better in nearly every statistic.
 
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