Saints and Shanle getting owned

[dargonking999]

10-0 by Manning and colts.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

10-0 by Manning and colts.

Second week in a row we get to watch the Colts play a team we just walloped the week before.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I might add too, once again, their running back seems to have no problems gaining yards on a front seven that gave us troubles. That oline is going to go down as the one thing that prevented Bill from winning another Super Bowl.

 

[Yeagermeister]

WHAT????? I thought for sure Shanle would instantly transform that defense in to an all world defense.

/sarcasm

 

[Catch-22]

I might add too, once again, their running back seems to have no problems gaining yards on a front seven that gave us troubles. That oline is going to go down as the one thing that prevented Bill from winning another Super Bowl.

Incorrect. JJ and co. tore up their 7 man fronts when they saw them. The problem was they almost brought up the safety and put 8 in the box. That led to 150 passing yards in the first quarter.

Pick your poison.

 

[superpunk]

I might add too, once again, their running back seems to have no problems gaining yards on a front seven that gave us troubles. That oline is going to go down as the one thing that prevented Bill from winning another Super Bowl.

Or, maybe not 8 in the box against a Peyton Manning.

I love Bledsoe, but someone talked a while ago about how his tendencies in the pocket cause defenses to stack up, not respect the pass, and just stop the run. This might have something. Either way, it sure looks like we'll be making people pay if they try that on us regular season.

 

[SupermanXx]

WHAT????? I thought for sure Shanle would instantly transform that defense in to an all world defense.

/sarcasm

hahahahah

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Incorrect. JJ and co. tore up their 7 man fronts when they saw them. The problem was they almost brought up the safety and put 8 in the box. That lead to 150 passing yards in the first quarter.

Pick your poison.

He tore up the 7 man fronts? So the safety made all the tackles?

 

[superpunk]

He tore up the 7 man fronts? So the safety made all the tackles?

I believe with Flo in, we averaged over 6 ypc.

Once he was out, the respect went out the window, and they started taking advantage of our inexperienced tackles, it seemed.

 

[dargonking999]

maybe you missed the countless threads, showing the stats JJ and Barver were getting on 7 man fronts vs 8, 9, and 10.

You should really stop talking TBC, you making yourself looking worse and worse

 

[Catch-22]

He tore up the 7 man fronts? So the safety made all the tackles?

From Vela:

Defensive coordinators break all this down and any tendency this clear will be noted. In the Saints game Julius Jones had 19 yards on his first two carries. The first was a ten yarder on the third play of the game. New Orleans was in a conventional seven man front. From that point, Saints’ DC Gary Gibbs called for eight man fronts and run blitzes on nearly every 1st and 10. Jones got nine more yards on the next play from scrimmage but had only two more runs of more than five yards. One came when he slashed past a blitzing Saints safety. The other was a seven yard run when Dallas caught the Saints back in a seven man front. Jones had ten rushes. Nine of them came in 1st-and-10 situations when he faced a bulked up New Orleans front.
The same patterns held for Marion Barber. His first run gained ten yards on a third and three, when New Orleans was playing pass. From that point, he had only two runs of five yards or more and both came on second downs against seven man fronts.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I believe with Flo in, we averaged over 6 ypc.

Once he was out, the respect went out the window, and they started taking advantage of our inexperienced tackles, it seemed.

Well, I agree with your theory that stacking the box was more for Bledsoe than Julius. No knock on Jujo, but Bledsoe is the one I think they zeroed in on.

 

[tomson75]

I might add too, once again, their running back seems to have no problems gaining yards on a front seven that gave us troubles. That oline is going to go down as the one thing that prevented Bill from winning another Super Bowl.

and someone else might also add that we were not facing a front seven, but rather a front eight. and someone else might also add that we indeed did NOT have any problem running against them in the first quarter, and it wasn't until Flozell went out of the game that they gave us any resistance whatsoever.

someone else may, at some point, add that.

 

[tomson75]

and apparently they have, as i was typing so slow.

 

[Catch-22]

Well, I agree with your theory that stacking the box was more for Bledsoe than Julius. No knock on Jujo, but Bledsoe is the one I think they zeroed in on.

They were running run blitzes, to guess what, stop the run.

We picked those up and torched them through the air like any good offense should.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

From Vela:

Defensive coordinators break all this down and any tendency this clear will be noted. In the Saints game Julius Jones had 19 yards on his first two carries. The first was a ten yarder on the third play of the game. New Orleans was in a conventional seven man front. From that point, Saints’ DC Gary Gibbs called for eight man fronts and run blitzes on nearly every 1st and 10. Jones got nine more yards on the next play from scrimmage but had only two more runs of more than five yards. One came when he slashed past a blitzing Saints safety. The other was a seven yard run when Dallas caught the Saints back in a seven man front. Jones had ten rushes. Nine of them came in 1st-and-10 situations when he faced a bulked up New Orleans front.
The same patterns held for Marion Barber. His first run gained ten yards on a third and three, when New Orleans was playing pass. From that point, he had only two runs of five yards or more and both came on second downs against seven man fronts.

I'm not willing to buy that one play means Julius is the man. Hey, I'm hoping he looks like that rookie of old as much as you, but teams tried stacking against Emmitt in his last years too, and he still managed 1,000 yards. I know, bad comparison with a Hall of Famer, but I want to see more from Jujo, but mainly, more from that offensive line. You don't think teams play Kansas City and know what they're going to do? When you have the maulers, who cares?

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

and someone else might also add that we were not facing a front seven, but rather a front eight. and someone else might also add that we indeed did NOT have any problem running against them in the first quarter, and it wasn't until Flozell went out of the game that they gave us any resistance whatsoever.

someone else may, at some point, add that.

No doubt about it Flozell is the man, but we weren't running left the entire game, were we?

 

[superpunk]

I'm not willing to buy that one play means Julius is the man. Hey, I'm hoping he looks like that rookie of old as much as you, but teams tried stacking against Emmitt in his last years too, and he still managed 1,000 yards. I know, bad comparison with a Hall of Famer, but I want to see more from Jujo, but mainly, more from that offensive line. You don't think teams play Kansas City and know what they're going to do? When you have the maulers, who cares?

Once we prove that the passing game will eat people alive if they keep doing that to us, it will stop, and more lanes will open up. That's how the balance has to come. Bledsoe needs to step up big time this year. The domino effect will be something to see.

 

[superpunk]

No doubt about it Flozell is the man, but we weren't running left the entire game, were we?

Well, McQ was having a heck of a time cutting off the backside pursuit.

 

[dargonking999]

I'm not willing to buy that one play means Julius is the man. Hey, I'm hoping he looks like that rookie of old as much as you, but teams tried stacking against Emmitt in his last years too, and he still managed 1,000 yards. I know, bad comparison with a Hall of Famer, but I want to see more from Jujo, but mainly, more from that offensive line. You don't think teams play Kansas City and know what they're going to do? When you have the maulers, who cares?

I guess having Dante hall Kennsino and gonzlaz dont exist on that team

yes KC runs the ball, but they are also a league leading team in Passing yards. Not the easiest team to defend