Schlereth: I wouldn't invest two cents in George Pickens

[conner01]

If we pay Pickens we are moronic and stupid

(Of course that means Jerry will pay him )

I see the talent being game changing. I also seen the last game. Before ghe last game I’d have said sign him now. After the last game I’ve got concerns

 

[Praxit]

Wasnt that guy doing soap's at ones time?

 

[TwentyOne]

The hate brigade on Pickens is pathetic. They don’t give this same energy to AJ Brown though. Or Jamar Chase or Jefferson….one cries after wins, the other spits on people and the other sulks and stays quiet. Yet Pickens is the problem.

Yes it is.

I like what i have seen from him so far. Not near the headcase he was advertised. He has some antics but what WR doesnt?

Maybe the future will prove me a liar. But as i said i like what i have seen rom him so far. He also took over when CD went down and he looked really good over that timespan.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Comparing George Pickens loafing around out there to Ceedee dropping passes is hilarious

Let me make this simple for you:

1 receiver that was criticized was a multiple-time all pro, has 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons here (working on 5), and funny enough having one of his best seasons despite those drops

The other receiver has a history (not just that one game) of the behavior you saw on Thursday. And he did it in a season where hes trying to get paid.

A logical person would conclude that it is very risky to extend this player to the upwards of $30m a year because of his history.

Also, this isnt the first time Schottty had to talk to him about his effort either. You homers/casuals just go game by game and dont even understand what you are watching

Lamb has no games where we questioned his effort?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes it is.

I like what i have seen from him so far. Not near the headcase he was advertised. He has some antics but what WR doesnt?

Maybe the future will prove me a liar. But as i said i like what i have seen rom him so far. He also took over when CD went down and he looked really good over that timespan.

Yep. I’ll happily admit I was wrong if it bites us but I’ve been pleased with him.

 

[Sydla]

I think the problem I have and others is we are pretending like guys go 100 percent all the time. Because I know for sure Lamb doesn’t….Zeke didn’t. A ex player knows that for whatever reason whether it’s not focus or injury or wherever no one goes 100 percent of the time. They are using this to get their agenda off on Pickens.

It's not an agenda. The dude has a pretty clear history of just being a pain the ***, moreso than Lamb. There is a reason why Pittsburgh was willing to ship off such a talent.

The people with the bitterness over what Schlereth said are being silly. Yes, paying all that money to Pickens carries a ton of risk, morseo than most players on our team (or in the league for that matter).

 

[visionary]

That Pickens has a history of being a pain in the butt, laziness, on field antics, etc.

And that's what Schlereth is stating here. You risk a ton putting all that money into Pickens. In his eyes, what you saw from Pickens against the Lions is who he is and as such, he'll never change and once he gets paid, he may actually get worse.

Thats where im at

I know Jerry will sign Pickens so all this hand wringing is just that
I hope it works out but i have my doubts

 

[Sydla]

Comparing George Pickens loafing around out there to Ceedee dropping passes is hilarious

Let me make this simple for you:

1 receiver that was criticized was a multiple-time all pro, has 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons here (working on 5), and funny enough having one of his best seasons despite those drops

The other receiver has a history (not just that one game) of the behavior you saw on Thursday. And he did it in a season where hes trying to get paid.

A logical person would conclude that it is very risky to extend this player to the upwards of $30m a year because of his history.

Also, this isnt the first time Schottty had to talk to him about his effort either. You homers/casuals just go game by game and dont even understand what you are watching

It is so weird watching people dig in on these odd positions.

There is a reason why the Steelers were OK with trading him. He has a well documented history of being a giant pain in the butt. You can even go back to his days at Tennessee where he routinely did stupid stuff on the field (ejected for fighting, squirting water on an opposing QB during a game, he was accused of sloppiness and laziness at UT).

Lamb has his issues. The drops are an issue for sure which is mostly lack of focus. But anyone trying to compare Lamb as being the same kind of volatile player as Pickens are hilarious. Geezus.

 

[Sydla]

Thats where im at

I know Jerry will sign Pickens so all this hand wringing is just that
I hope it works out but i have my doubts

Like I said I am torn. On one hand, Dak is what Dak is. He needs players and Pickens with Lamb help Dak immensely. Can you really give up on that kind of talent given how the offense is set up? Losing him creates a big hole from an explosiveness perspective that I worry we try to fill by drafting a guy like Jeremiyah Love (who is an elite talent but we have way bigger needs than a TB) in the 1st to try to find another explosive offensive player.

On the flipside, I am not blind to the reality that Pickens has a well documented history of being a putz, that often times guys that are putzes kind of play nice to get their big deal and then go back to being putzes once they get paid, and this franchise' history with taking on these kind of volatile players isn't great.

But I think you have to bring him back and cross your fingers.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's not an agenda. The dude has a pretty clear history of just being a pain the ***, moreso than Lamb. There is a reason why Pittsburgh was willing to ship off such a talent.

The people with the bitterness over what Schlereth said are being silly. Yes, paying all that money to Pickens carries a ton of risk, morseo than most players on our team (or in the league for that matter).

When Pickens came here in hr concern was his tardiness, recklessness, limited route tree, penalties….how he would respond to not getting the football. One of those concerns was not him not giving his all. It was all behavioral. He hasn’t given them ammo until this week. People arr fit sure getting agendas off. Giving guys money is a risk. If it wasn’t Steelers wouldn’t have traded him for a 3rd.

Which btw, head over to the Steelers forum and see how much they hate they traded him away. For a malcontent the majority of those fans seem to want him back.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It is so weird watching people dig in on these odd positions.

There is a reason why the Steelers were OK with trading him. He has a well documented history of being a giant pain in the butt. You can even go back to his days at Tennessee where he routinely did stupid stuff on the field (ejected for fighting, squirting water on an opposing QB during a game, he was accused of sloppiness and laziness at UT).

Lamb has his issues. The drops are an issue for sure which is mostly lack of focus. But anyone trying to compare Lamb as being the same kind of volatile player as Pickens are hilarious. Geezus.

Steelers screw up all the time. They got rid of one malcontent for another in DK. So using the “it’s a reason they got rid of him” argument falls flat.

 

[Sydla]

When Pickens came here in hr concern was his tardiness, recklessness, limited route tree, penalties….how he would respond to not getting the football. One of those concerns was not him not giving his all. It was all behavioral. He hasn’t given them ammo until this week. People arr fit sure getting agendas off. Giving guys money is a risk. If it wasn’t Steelers wouldn’t have traded him for a 3rd.

Which btw, head over to the Steelers forum and see how much they hate they traded him away. For a malcontent the majority of those fans seem to want him back.

To saying giving guys money is a risk for all players is a silly rationalization. There are many players I would have zero problem giving a ton of money to. Pickens is a guy that you should worry about giving money too. Oh and yes, to say his effort was never a concern is wrong. He had issues at times dating back to his time in college.

His effort was questioned many times in Pittsburgh including a couple of games where he showed zero desire to block and on a couple of interceptions, he made no effort to tackle the guy.

Like I said, I think you have to sign him given how this team is set up but I am not blind that he's a risky re-signing, moreso than other guys we have brought back.

 

[Sydla]

Steelers screw up all the time. They got rid of one malcontent for another in DK. So using the “it’s a reason they got rid of him” argument falls flat.

But we all have eyes. We can all read the stories.

Pretending that Pickens hasn't done these things or that everyone does them just like Pickens is a complete and utterly disingenuous stance. So it's odd why you would dig in and try to pretend Pickens apparently is a victim in this thread. LOL.

 

[MS17]

Thats where im at

I know Jerry will sign Pickens so all this hand wringing is just that
I hope it works out but i have my doubts

Exaclimento (yep). The maverick in Jerry says he probably enjoys the chatter on Pickens this week.
Jerruh will sign him now or bust hell wide open.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

To saying giving guys money is a risk for all players is a silly rationalization. There are many players I would have zero problem giving a ton of money to. Pickens is a guy that you should worry about giving money too. Oh and yes, to say his effort was never a concern is wrong. He had issues at times dating back to his time in college.

His effort was questioned many times in Pittsburgh including a couple of games where he showed zero desire to block and on a couple of interceptions, he made no effort to tackle the guy.

Like I said, I think you have to sign him given how this team is set up but I am not blind that he's a risky re-signing, moreso than other guys we have brought back.

You may not have an issue giving money to players but it for sure is a risk. Look at all the players who get paid who gets better? lamb will never be what he was in 2023. And that’s ok. He doesn’t need to be. Sure maybe guys aren’t as Pickens is but you think it was a risk paying Bland? Or Ferg? It’s all a risk.

 

[jazzcat22]

I see the talent being game changing. I also seen the last game. Before ghe last game I’d have said sign him now. After the last game I’ve got concerns

What about Dak”s picks, any concern?
What about wide open receivers and poor tackling for certain players, Any concerns?
Ferguson and his recent fumbling issues, any concerns?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

But we all have eyes. We can all read the stories.

Pretending that Pickens hasn't done these things or that everyone does them just like Pickens is a complete and utterly disingenuous stance. So it's odd why you would dig in and try to pretend Pickens apparently is a victim in this thread. LOL.

He’s paying for past sins for sure. I don’t agree with that. Charles Haley was reckless as hell in San Fran. There was risk bringing him in. But he was gonna have to show me. What he did in San Fran has no bearings on what he will do with the Cowboys. George may prove all of you right. When he does I will happily say you right. It’s not that im not expecting him to do it. I’m allowing him to do it before saying he’s the same guy.

 

[conner01]

What about Dak”s picks, any concern?
What about wide open receivers and poor tackling for certain players, Any concerns?
Ferguson and his recent fumbling issues, any concerns?

There’s a huge difference in a player fumbling or throwing a pick and a player taking the game off. He played the entire game like he had no interest in being there

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Sounds like a former Commander who doesn't want to see Pickens beat his team over the head twice a year

 

[stuckindc]

All true. But Detroit played on the same schedule and they played hard. Both had their seasons on the line. One stepped up the other didn’t

And Ferguson was the killer not GP. He’s not gonna have 100 and a TD every game. He set us up fist and goal and Ferguson got called for hands to the face. Along with his fumble. The last one was not a penalty on him.