Scrap the 3-4, go back to 4-3

[Punkabilly56]

I say scrap the 3-4. go back to 4-3. the D was fine as a 4-3 under Zimmer. Parcells brought in his renowned 3-4 and screwed things up.

 

[Achozen]

I say scrap the 3-4. go back to 4-3. the D was fine as a 4-3 under Zimmer. Parcells brought in his renowned 3-4 and screwed things up.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

 

[lane]

I say scrap the 3-4. go back to 4-3. the D was fine as a 4-3 under Zimmer. Parcells brought in his renowned 3-4 and screwed things up.

that's just another thing i can't stand about parcells...

i'll never forgive that sob for changing my beloved 4-3 defenses i watched since 1975.

 

[elcocinero]

The 3-4 is the least of our problems and The 4-3 wont help our coaching or our shotty cornerback play..

 

[Plumfool]

no team is not built for 4-3

 

[justbob]

zimmer zimmer :laugh2:

 

[Rack]

I say scrap the 3-4. go back to 4-3. the D was fine as a 4-3 under Zimmer. Parcells brought in his renowned 3-4 and screwed things up.

Wow.

Just... wow.


Another added to the ignore list.

 

[Achozen]

I love the 3-4, just not the way we run it.

 

[CF74]

How many does that make it now?

 

[juck]

I say scrap the 3-4. go back to 4-3. the D was fine as a 4-3 under Zimmer. Parcells brought in his renowned 3-4 and screwed things up.

I agree,we have 4-3 guys wanting it,obviously with ellis and Tank wanting it,ware is a pure pass rusher.Zimmer sucked at times but he also had a top 5 D at times too.Campo had a top 10 4-3 D his whole tenure as a DC here.Unless belicheat or Lebeau comes here scrap the 3-4 we have had a horrid D since.U cannot deny that.

 

[sonnyboy]

I would like to make a motion:

Starting a Scrap the 3-4, go back to 4-3 thread gets you banned!

Do I have a second?

 

[Shaun]

Are we gonna form a Bring Back Zimmer club now?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I think we would do better under the 4-3.....

 

[cml750]

We definitely have the personal to switch back to the 4-3. People forget we had the #1 defense in 03 under Zimmer before BP made us switch to the 3-4. For whatever reason coaching or not having the correct players we have not done very well in the 3-4 under 2 different styles of it. However, no defense will do very well when the conerbacks or giving receivers 10 yard cushions and not jamming them at the line. Either Wade, Stewart, or Campo whoever in the hell is planning the scheme the secondary is running should look at the way other teams are playing TO. They are basically taking him out the game by knocking him off his route by jamming him at the line. Our secondary seems to play "prevent" defense the whole game. We need to play aggresive defense and quit worrying about big plays. We give up enough of them when our whole scheme is based on stopping them. If we play aggresive and get the other teams offense off the field with a bunch of 3 and outs then there will be a lot less chances of big plays.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

So how does switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 fix our Offensive Line problems?

 

[Shady12]

We have the personnel that would allow us to run the 4-3, but our personnel isn't as suited to run the 4-3 as they are the 3-4. Primarily at linebacker. Wouldn't have any good outside linebackers. And some dlinemen would be froze out. Canty and Hatcher, for example, are pure 3-4 DE's. Too tall to play DT like Spears and Ratliff would be able to do..and definitely not 4-3 DE's.

 

[28 Joker]

Greg Ellis had double digit sacks in Phillips' 3-4 defense last year and made the Pro Bowl for the first time, ever.

Now, he has 2 sacks after 7 games, and he is making excuses about the scheme and throwing the "defensive coordinator" under the bus according to Mosley.

This defense, a few of these cry babbies are playing, is player friendly. It is a one gap scheme, and it is aggressive. The defense has 4-3 concepts. If players like Ellis and Tank Johnson don't have the guts to go to Wade Phillips and make their complaints known and they have to run to the principal's office like little kids, then no wonder they have not made an impact this year, outside of Ellis' two sack game against the Eagles. It tells me all I need to know about them. They don't take responsibility for their poor play.



Bat,

This one is yours.

 

[CF74]

When do we get most of our sacks? In the nickel and dime packages or the 3-4?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm curious about this but what exactly would the change to a 4-3 do for the secondary not playing up to par?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm curious about this but what exactly would the change to a 4-3 do for the secondary not playing up to par?

Dware rushing the passer more....