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[Rogerthat12]

Since you alluded to McAdoo's measurables as being something special, I thought it relevant to mention that they weren't all special.

Like most of us, I know little of McAdoo so far with respect to what he's doing performance-wise. Preseason promises to be invaluable in educating us all in that respect. The same might be said of Mayowa, irrespective of his weight. I'm sure we'll all enjoy being enlightened. As far as Mayowa being "prized," I'd venture to say that aspect remains to be seen but I'm confident his play will speak for itself in due time.

Nevertheless, there are assuredly attributes that bear attention other than weight, if it pleases you to hear as much, although physicality is and will always be a factor in football and bulk plays a prominent role in it. I won't knock either of them, as long as their performances support their being remotely worthy of praise . . . sound fair enough?

I said specifically that he had "nice" measurables not "special" and then proceeded to indicate that I did not see much from the player in my viewing which negates your counter post.

Obviously the Cowboys like his measurables unlike you and do not think his weight is " a bit light in the britches" and that he was a "smidge" wanting in strength due to his weight.

Direct quote with reference specifically being critical of the weight measurable as "light" with corresponding lack of strength in your view.

Surely his length as a DE is not problematic when David Irving is the same height at 6'7.

"McAdoo was originally listed as 6-7, 245 on the roster and currently is reportedly at 255.

Seems a bit light in the britches and perhaps just a smidge or more wanting in strength."

Further, Benson Mayowa is 6'3 and 240, under the same scrutiny of criticism he is 15 pounds lighter without the length and arm reach so he must be feather lite and have an absolutely prodigious amount of lack of strength in your book.

You sir, made the connection between his light stature and strength alone as being the problematic measurable.

Marinelli obviously has no problem with edge rushers particularly at the RDE position that are lighter in weight he cares that they have the abilty to capture the edge with speed.

His entire defensive philosophy is to attack upfield with pass rush, this is not rocket science and he does not need all of his DE's to weigh 270-280 pounds to sucessfully run his scheme.

Mayowa is 240 pounds without the length and long arms but they do not care, they signed him for his pass rush ability and speed, obviously something a lighter guy will usually have accordingly.

 

[Bullflop]

I said specifically that he had "nice" measurables not "special" and then proceeded to indicate that I did not see much from the player in my viewing which negates your counter post.

Obviously the Cowboys like his measurables unlike you and do not think his weight is " a bit light in the britches" and that he was a "smidge" wanting in stregnth due to his weight.

Direct quote with reference specifically being critical of the weight measurable as "light" with corresponding lack of stregnth in your view.

Surely his legnth as a DE is not problematic when David Irving is the same height at 6'7.

"McAdoo was originally listed as 6-7, 245 on the roster and currently is reportedly at 255.

Seems a bit light in the britches and perhaps just a smidge or more wanting in strength."

Further, Benson Mayowa is 6'3 and 240, under the same scrutiny of criticism he is 15 pounds lighter without the legnth and arm reach so he must be feather lite and have an absolutely prodigious amount of lack of stregnth in your book.

You sir, made the connection between his light stature and stregnth alone as being the problematic measurable.

Marinelli obviously has no problem with edge rushers particularly at the RDE position that are lighter in weight he cares that they have the abilty to capture the edge with speed.

His entire defensive philosophy is to attack upfield with pass rush, this is not rocket science and he does not need all of his DE's to weigh 270-280 pounds to sucessfully run his scheme.

Mayowa is 240 pounds without the legnth and long arms but they do not care, they signed him for his pass rush ability and speed, obviously something a lighter guy will usually have accordingly.

Sounds to me like someone got a bee under his bonnet -- you might try taking a valium -- maybe it'll help calm your oversensitivity. Nice book, though.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Sounds to me like someone's got a bee under his bonnet -- you might try taking a valium -- maybe it'll help calm your oversensitivity.

Actually, instead of the ad hominem personal attacks, you should take greater care in creating a criticism that fails to understand the subject matter.

 

[Bullflop]

Actually, instead of the ad hominem personal attacks, you should take greater care in creating a criticism that fails to understand the subject matter.

Maybe you should try taking that valium now. Might help.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Maybe you should try taking that valium now. Might help.

More personal attacks, figured as much when someone obviously has failed in their argument.

Reducing an argument to absurdity is not attacking a person but literally attacking the person is a typical logical fallacy when their agrument has been frustrated.

 

[Bullflop]

More personal attacks, figured as much when someone obviously has failed in their argument.

Reducing an argument to absurdity is not attacking a person but literally attacking the person is a typical logical fallacy when their agrument has been frustrated.

Personal attacks -- not really. I think you take yourself way too seriously. Take your Freudian BS somewhere else, it's weak.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Personal attacks -- not really. I think you take yourself way too seriously. Take your Freudian BS somewhere else, it's weak.

You left the reservation when you started making personal attacks and references, your argument was weak and you know it, time to move on because petty "off topic" arguments clog the board and warrant Mod intervention.

 

[Bullflop]

You left the reservation when you started making personal attacks and references, your argument was weak and you know it, time to move on because petty "off topic" arguments clog the board and warrant Mod intervention.

OK, in the interest of world peace and your blood pressure, let's just be friends, OK? Run along now . . .

 

[Rogerthat12]

OK, in the interest of world peace and your blood pressure, let's just be friends, OK? Run along now . . .

Time to move on from your personal references, by the way, Broaddus has a write up of McAdoo you may find informative at Dallascowboys.com!

Command language and personal attacks are simply logical fallacies and are childish, do you need a Mod to step in to help?

 

[Bullflop]

Time to move on from your personal references, by the way, Broaddus has a write up of McAdoo you may find informative at Dallascowboys.com!

Command language and personal attacks are simply logical fallacies and are childish, do you need a Mod to step in to help?

Did Broaddus take issue with me for saying McAdoo might not have enough bulk? I'm betting he didn't. Jeez, Louise -- for someone who claims not to be a fan of McAdoo, you definitely seem to object far in excess of what that matter deserves. Please, let it go. That molehill had already turned into a mountain long ago. I think your over reactions are epic.

In addition to that, your personal attack fantasy is simply a weakly veiled attempt to make this whole thing more of an issue than it deserves. Nice try to invite intervention that simply isn't warranted, though -- (smh.)

Let's not waste any more time on this already over-wrought matter unnecessarily. It's well past time for it to come to an end.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Did Broaddus take issue with me for saying McAdoo might not have enough bulk? I'm betting he didn't. Jeez, Louise -- for someone who claims not to be a fan of McAdoo, you definitely seem to object far in excess of what that matter deserves. Please, let it go. That molehill had already turned into a mountain long ago.

In addition to that, your personal attack fantasies are simply weakly veiled attempts to make this whole thing more of an issue than it deserves. Nice try to invite intervention that just isn't warranted, though -- (smh.)

From post #22 on you have engaged in "off topic" personal attacks and references since your argument was refuted concerning weight and strength.

Broaddus simply states McAdoo is tall and lean but demonstrates strength and speed, hence why they like him accordingly. The length and arm reach is another factor they like as I previously stated as well.

In addition, I qualified that my comments above were a small sample size, McAdoo could have better days and may improve in terms of consistency and technique as camp moves about.

Think before you post a criticism next time, you were wrong and apparently can not allow the pride to take the hit hence the name calling and personal references.

What is often the case, when someone is aware that their argument was reduced to absurdity and they have no valid reply, they attack the person with a myriad of personal references and attacks (see your replies since post #22).

You have offered nothing to the discusion from post #22 on, simply more personal references that are indeed logical fallacies and against board policy.

Intervention is warranted when a poster goes off topic while personally attacking simply because they lost an argument on a topic.

 

[Bullflop]

From post #22 on you have engaged in "off topic" personal attacks and references since your argument was refuted concerning weight and strength.

Broaddus simply states McAdoo is tall and lean but demonstrates strength and speed, hence why they like him accordingly. The length and arm reach is another factor they like as I previously stated as well.

In addition, I qualified that my comments above were a small sample size, McAdoo could have better days and may improve in terms of consistency and technique as camp moves about.

Think before you post a criticism next time, you were wrong and apparently can not allow the pride to take the hit hence the name calling and personal references.

What is often the case, when someone is aware that their argument was reduced to absurdity and they have no valid reply, they attack the person with a myriad of personal references and attacks (see your replies since post #22).

You have offered nothing to the discusion from post #22 on, simply more personal references that are indeed logical fallacies and against board policy.

I reserve the right to state my personal opinions on this forum about the team and its players. If you can't handle it, that's your problem. Your fanatical insistence upon continuing this fiasco is going from the ridiculous to the absurd. Again, it's time to let it go. I'm done with you.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I reserve the right to state my personal opinions on this forum about the team and its players. If you can't handle it, that's your problem.

I reserve the right to reduce your argument to absurdity but you have no right to name call and personally attack someone because they disagree with your opinion.

The proof is in your posts # 22 and on are all off topic and personal.

Then let it go without more personal attacks, you just can not help yourself apparently.

 

[Bullflop]

I reserve the right to reduce your argument to absurdity but you have no right to name call and personally attack someone because they disagree with your opinion.

The proof is in your posts # 22 and on are all off topic and personal.

Then let it go without more personal attacks, you just can not help yourself apparently.

There was no name calling involved -- kindly abandon the martyr routine, you gave as much as you got.

Again, I'm done with you. Go in peace, but just go.

 

[Rogerthat12]

There was no name calling involved -- kindly abandon the martyr routine, you gave as much as you got. Again, I'm done with you.

Go read your posts filled with personal comments, sorry but you personally attacked once your argument was reduced to absurdity.

Every response from you has been personal references and without regard to the topic at hand.

Nice try but those are attacking the man logical fallacies!

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Both of your posts are making my eyes bleed.

 

[Bullflop]

Go read your posts filled with personal comments, sorry but you personally attacked once your argument was reduced to absurdity.

Every repose from you has been personal references and without regard to the topic at hand.

Nice try but those are attacking the man logical fallacies!

Go read your posts filled with personal comments, sorry but you personally attacked once your argument was reduced to absurdity.

Every response from you has been personal references and without regard to the topic at hand.

Nice try but those are attacking the man logical fallacies!

Hogwash!!!

 

[Bullflop]

Both of your posts are making my eyes bleed.

The sound of reason . . . thank you.

 

[Rogerthat12]

[QUOTE

Hogwash!!!

Denial!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Knock it off guys.