Seahawks O-Line

[mattjames2010]

If anyone has been watching the Seahawks offensive line this year, you will probably agree they have the worst pass blocking line in the league. Russel Wilson has been sacked 31 times through 7 games, yes you read that correctly, 31 times. Their line in the Lions game was non-existent, I'd even go as far as saying it's the worst pass protection I've seen since the David Carr days in Houston.

The downside is, the run blocking is still good in Seattle. We looked bad against the run in New York in the first half, if Lynch gets going, they can cover up the pass blocking weakness. If we can keep Lynch in check and contain Wilson and not let him improvise on the run, we have a real shot at winning. Lee and McClain are the key to this game, our defensive line will get it's pressure.

 

[Amy50632]

I want at least 5 sacks on Wilson. Even better, 10 sacks.

 

[Zordon]

This is the worst pass blocking line we'll face all season. But just b/c you get to Wilson doesn't mean you can get him down. We need to stay in our lanes and sack him when we get the opportunity. If he breaks contain or gets outside of the tackles, we're screwed.

 

[mattjames2010]

This is the worst pass blocking line we'll face all season. But just b/c you get to Wilson doesn't mean you can get him down. We need to stay in our lanes and sack him when we get the opportunity. If he breaks contain or gets outside of the tackles, we're screwed.

Oh, I agree. He is right up there with Romo and Rodgers when it comes to improvising. We did a great job containing him last year, and we seem to have more talent on defense this year. I think we'll do well with keeping him in check.

My fear is still Lynch.

 

[RunDMC]

Their run blocking sucks too. Lynch is only averaging 3.7 yards a carry which is terrible for a guy of his caliber. That's coming off a big game last week. A lot of their rushing comes of Wilson as well. If Marinelli dials back some of the stunts and linebackers fill the holes I think we'll be just fine.

 

[mattjames2010]

Their run blocking sucks too. Lynch is only averaging 3.7 yards a carry which is terrible for a guy of his caliber. That's coming off a big game last week. A lot of their rushing comes of Wilson as well. If Marinelli dials back some of the stunts and linebackers fill the holes I think we'll be just fine.

Their run blocking hasn't sucked, inconsistent maybe, but it doesn't suck. Rawls had two big games for them in Lynch's absence.

If we play the run like we did against the Giants, who doesn't have anywhere near the type of RBs the Seahawks do, look for them to have a rushing game they had against the Bengals.

 

[RW31]

They don't have a good O-Line but it's definitely not the worst pass blocking in the league, it's not even close. Russell Wilson gets himself in trouble sometimes by how he's running around and allowing guys to chase him and hold on to the ball more than anything. They have a good LT, a good Center and a good RG. But I think this is the first time in his career that Wilson doesn't have the best pass protection in the NFL and he doesn't respond well to it. Which coordinators see, they throw blitzes at him and he's panicking and running around which leads to more trouble. There's a bunch of teams that have worse O-Lines its just that the QB realizes when to get rid of the ball to mask this issue. Best example would be the Commanders, Colts maybe, Vikings. 49ers are terrible though.

 

[mattjames2010]

They don't have a good O-Line but it's definitely not the worst pass blocking in the league, it's not even close. Russell Wilson gets himself in trouble sometimes by how he's running around and allowing guys to chase him and hold on to the ball more than anything. They have a good LT, a good Center and a good RG. But I think this is the first time in his career that Wilson doesn't have the best pass protection in the NFL and he doesn't respond well to it. Which coordinators see, they throw blitzes at him and he's panicking and running around which leads to more trouble. There's a bunch of teams that have worse O-Lines its just that the QB realizes when to get rid of the ball to mask this issue. Best example would be the Commanders, Colts maybe, Vikings. 49ers are terrible though.

Then you haven't watched Seahawks games.

Russell Wilson is the one getting himself in trouble? No, just no. The Seahawks have never technically had a great pass blocking line, but to sit here and state 31 sacks were mostly on the QB is ridiculous. The Lions defensive players were seeing NO resistance when they faced Seattle, Wilson snapped the ball and there were Lions in his face at all angles.

 

[mattjames2010]

http://www.fieldgulls.com/football-...-offensive-line-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch

A nice little breakdown of that Seattle and Detroit game. The pass blocking is terrible, and that article doesn't even show all of the offensive line mistakes. It was even worse in the 4th quarter of that game and nearly killed Wilson if it wasn't for his legs.

 

[RW31]

Then you haven't watched Seahawks games.

Oh, great comeback. Haven't heard that one before. Especially from somebody who is using NFL.com stats instead of watching film. "I know everything you don't!". Great. Good for you.

 

[RW31]

http://www.fieldgulls.com/football-...-offensive-line-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch

A nice little breakdown of that Seattle and Detroit game. The pass blocking is terrible, and that article doesn't even show all of the offensive line mistakes. It was even worse in the 4th quarter of that game and nearly killed Wilson if it wasn't for his legs.

Wow. Take a game from a month ago. How about you try the last couple games instead when they were much better recently? And did you even bother watching those plays? Look at how Wilson is hanging on to the ball when guys are wide open because of all the blitzing. How do you not see his receivers being wide open? He doesn't get rid of the ball. This is where he's not helping his O-Line. Graham is wide open over the middle he just ignores him and keeps the ball instead, then he has to scramble around and he ends up getting sacked. Very RG3 like. Brady, Cousins, all those guys get rid of the ball FAST, they don't wait for guys to get open downfield, they just run slants a lot and pick you apart that way.

 

[mattjames2010]

Wow. Take a game from a month ago. How about you try the last couple games instead when they were much better recently? And did you even bother watching those plays? Look at how Wilson is hanging on to the ball when guys are wide open because of all the blitzing. How do you not see his receivers being wide open? He doesn't get rid of the ball. This is where he's not helping his O-Line. Graham is wide open over the middle he just ignores him and keeps the ball instead, then he has to scramble around and he ends up getting sacked. Very RG3 like. Brady, Cousins, all those guys get rid of the ball FAST, they don't wait for guys to get open downfield, they just run slants a lot and pick you apart that way.

Dude, it's looked this way in EVERY game outside of the Packers game. Wilson is hanging onto the ball? What the hell are you talking about? The Lions are blowing right past the damn line! It's right there for you.

Is this going to be another time you argue with me, I show you facts, and you say "I'll get back to you later"? Let me know now.

 

[DallasDomination]

Then you haven't watched Seahawks games.

Russell Wilson is the one getting himself in trouble? No, just no. The Seahawks have never technically had a great pass blocking line, but to sit here and state 31 sacks were mostly on the QB is ridiculous. The Lions defensive players were seeing NO resistance when they faced Seattle, Wilson snapped the ball and there were Lions in his face at all angles.

I know I'm butting in but I have to agree with the poster above. The pass protection isn't good up there with the worst in the league. But Russell Wilson does have some blame to that. He holds on to the ball a lot and moves out of the pocket a lot. That's gonna translate to sacks. Not saying he's to blame but the qb deserves blame for sacks too.

 

[mattjames2010]

I know I'm butting in but I have to agree with the poster above. The pass protection isn't good up there with the worst in the league. But Russell Wilson does have some blame to that. He holds on to the ball a lot and moves out of the pocket a lot. That's gonna translate to sacks. Not saying he's to blame but the qb deserves blame for sacks too.

I never said QBs aren't to blame for sacks, I said 31 sacks within 7 games isn't on the QB.

Football outsiders has them ranked dead last in pass protection, Wilson has had one game where he was sacked less than 4 times all season. You guys say he holds onto the ball too long, he also avoids sacks as much as any QB in the league.

 

[Alexander]

I want at least 5 sacks on Wilson. Even better, 10 sacks.

I want them too but there are times they almost invite the pressure so Wilson can improv his way.

 

[JohnsKey19]

If we allow them to establish the run with Lynch, Rawls and also Wilson, their shoddy pass blocking wont even be much of a factor.

 

[31smackdown]

It's a combination of bad blocking and Wilson not getting rid of the ball trying to create. His own offensive coordinator said that some of it has to do with timing and Wilson not throwing on time and then trying to create something due to past successes. The games I have watched Wilson rarely throws the ball on time with his drop. I would say more than 50% of the pass plays look like schoolyard plays where he is just scrambling and finding someone, which is something they actually practice a lot, which is why it works more than some other teams. Wilson is probably the most elusive QB in the NFL, with his shorter stature, being able to move in small spaces much quicker then D Linemen. Seattle fans are wanting him to run more and they think that he is trying to be more of a pocket passer this year. If he was not so elusive he would probably be hurt already but he rarely gets hit with a clean shot because defenders are so concerned with his escape ability that they breakdown and try to play under control to ensure the tackle.

This game hinges significantly on being able to contain Wilson and prevent the big play. Seattle can not drive the ball in their normal offense. They want to suck you in and then throw deep to Lockette or Richardson(If he plays). Those guys are hard to chase for 10 seconds. Crawford and Hardy are going to have a field day in the backfield, but you have to bring the guy down when you get there. The Seattle offense is volatile. It can have a 20 yard loss on a sack or a 50 yard TD on a scramble play. It can easily be one of the most frustrating things to watch as the defense stops the designed play, only to give up a conversion on the scramble, over and over. But that is what Seattle is. It's Wilson scrambling and keeping them on the field, which wears down defenses that chase him around. Then Carroll throws in some planned trick plays, or rubs or some special planned deep throw 2 or 3 times a game.

 

[reddyuta]

I want at least 5 sacks on Wilson. Even better, 10 sacks.

Sacks mean jack if we don't force TOs because they are going to destroy us in the run game.

 

[Stash]

I expected much if the same against the Giants, with our pass rush at full strength and New York's offensive line coming off of an embarrassing performance against Philadelphia. Instead, the Ginats did a much better job than expected, especially in the run game.

I hope for better production this week, but I'm not as confident in it as I was a week ago.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Id like to think we will get to him but then I've wanted that when they say we playing against a sucky line and don't get even one sack even when we had DWare. So I just hope the line gets after Russell. Been disappointed to many times, everybody seems to bring their A game against Americas Team.