Seattle tells Philly their offense is pretty basic

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They've had plenty of games where the offense struggled but they were bailed out by defense and special teams.

Very overrated offense.

Yes, and once again, they were gifted an inexplicable turnover on special teams. Ball hits the Seattle punter right in the hands and he drops it. That has nothing to do with special teams skill, that is the type of luck this unit has been getting all season long. And they still got crushed.
 

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I believe it comes down the having the confidence to play man to man defense and the confidence to apply pressure to the QB.
Do we have the confidence in our secondary to allow them to have Man assignments most of the game? I hope so because it seemed like the last game our defenders didn't really know who to cover in the zone and Mark Sanchez can hurt you if you just let him throw the ball to the holes in the zone without getting any pressure.

I think the eagles are built to play fast on turf and we are a grind it out type of team that plays better on grass than turf. Its funny to say but I think the game being on grass in philly actually is an advantage to us. The philly fans are a nasty bunch of low lifes that will turn on their own very quickly. Sanchez feels the pressure in that stadium.
 

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Philly is going to finish 10-6. Kelly keeps crying about the refs but he need not worry about that when he plays us he will have the refs in his corner. Sanchez is beginning his crash back down to reality.

That was awesome watching him try to convince the refs that throwing a ball out of bounds in the general direction of a receiver is intentional grounding. Despite the fact that has NEVER been ruled intentional grounding, you had to admire his determination! LOL.
 

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Difference is we don't have a pass rush. SANCHEZ has all day to throw. We have to blitz SOMETIMES. Biggest thing is we have a lot of time to recooperate and watch tape. Our season is on the line Sunday. We all know this.
 

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When it's Garrett, it's all about our players executing and precision, despite being simple. When it comes to the Eagles, the O is basic and not all that.
 

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Oh do they now?

Que our highlights from Seattle! WE made their D look basic!

Not to trivialize what we did, but they weren't playing well in the beginning of the year. They are clicking now. And we aren't playing as good as we were than.
 

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The Eagles offense also looked like trash against GB when the game mattered and their defense is ranked 23rd in yardage/game and 21st in yardage/play.

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They've had plenty of games where the offense struggled but they were bailed out by defense and special teams.

Very overrated offense.

Yep.

If they don't find a qb this will be the last year we hear anything great about Chip Kelly's offense.

One and done in the playoffs if they make it.
 

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Chip Kelly has said all along that what he didn't invent anything. The offense has to be pretty basic because of the speed of every snap and that they use a lot of package plays (plays designed where the QB decides whether to hand the ball off to the RB or play fake and throw it). With package plays, the WR's run basic pass routes and the O-Line run blocks. No time for motioning, check with me's, option routes, etc.

I think what has always scared me about Chip Kelly is that he has never thought of himself as a genius and tries to mention that he's not a genius. Usually those guys end up being the smartest coaches.

YR

I'm still not buying this guy. His offenses can score points, but never win the big ones. University of New Hampshire? C'mon man. They play football in New Hampshire?
 

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They weren't playing well in the beginning of the year. They are clicking now.

This is true, but they were at HOME! Rememenber? "No one beats the Seahawjs in Seattle".

With our run game, we can play anybody, anywhere.
 

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90's Cowboys ran a pretty basic offense. You can do that if you execute, an overly complicated one is like a bag of trick plays.

The difference is DBs could fight the WRs back then and throw them off their routes. Nowadays, you have to scheme because DBs can't get away with much.
 

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This is true, but they were at HOME! Rememenber? "No one beats the Seahawjs in Seattle".

With our run game, we can play anybody, anywhere.

Unless our defense folds and we have to play catch-up. But I agree, we got to slow the pace down when it comes to teams like Seattle. We are in an advantage when playing them, because of our running game and bruising style. Seattle doesn't have that great an offense to keep pace with and everybody eventually gets tired.
 

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Seattle makes every offense look pretty basic...

They've struggled a bit this year at times but over the last month they've been rock solid. 20 points in the last 3 games.

Looks like they got their swagger back........OOOH, OOOH!
 

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Not really
The eagles first DT was a result of a muffed punt by the Seahawks at their 10
They were able to do nothing after that

Seattle is a talented , disciplined and fast defense that also punched you in the mouth

We are none if those unfortunately

You are talking about one game.
You are talking gaudy numbers.

I am talking "effective"... Their record says they are effective. So does that beating they put on us.
 

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They've struggled a bit this year at times but over the last month they've been rock solid. 20 points in the last 3 games.

Looks like they got their swagger back........OOOH, OOOH!

I love watching how fired up Pete Carroll gets on the sidelines. The team seems like a reflection of him.
 

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It's effective against bad defenses.

Against good defenses...not so much.

How many good defenses are left in the NFL? The league wants college type score lines, so is it really surprising that a college type offense is smacking around college style poor defenses?
 

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Most of the best offenses ARE simple. Our running game is very simple - we live off the zone stretch and a few different combinations of the power run. It's insanely effective, but it's also very simple.

Offenses like those that Manning runs or with a ton of option routes can be effective when they work, but they also break down quite often because of their complexity.
 

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Chip Kelly's offense is a gambling offense. By that I mean it gambles that it can get first downs consistently and that if they can get a lead on a team, they can get more aggressive on defense.

For example, it's no different than if a team never punted and went for it on 4th down every time no matter the field position. If that team has a game where they convert 8 out of 10 4th down attempts, they come out looking like a dominating offense. If they convert 1 out of 10 4th down attempts, they get exposed and labeled a gimmick offense. It was the same with the old run-n-gun offense. It was high scoring as well long ago, except when it didn't work, and when that happened, it looked really bad.

The problem for Dallas is that it cannot consistently stop other teams on 3rd downs. That plays directly into the Eagles scheme. Dallas can beat the Eagles in Philly, but they can also lose just as easily. No matter the outcome, it's a gamble and whether the Cowboys win or lose next week, it won't make them a better or worse team than they are now. A win will help with their playoff chances of course, but beating the Eagles won't be any real gauge as to how the Cowboys would/will do against other playoff teams.

The bottom line though is the Eagles may beat Dallas and may get into the playoffs, but their gambling offense won't last against good teams over several games.
 

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LOL, Mississippi State in 2002-03? Tennessee? You mean the dregs of the SEC?

Against the top SEC teams, Kelly's offense ground to a halt, much like yesterday.

Maybe you should backpeddle and change your original post because my response shows you were not correct.
 
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