Shotgun and Play Action: Romo vs Playoff QB

[visionary]

God pass defense -- i.e., an interception returned to the 2 yard line. Then on the next drive Brady went 4 for 4 and 57 yards. That put them up 14-0.

since your post quoted madden as saying you have to score more points than the other team, were the scoring plays passing plays or running plays?

 

[Vintage]

since your post quoted madden as saying you have to score more points than the other team, were the scoring plays passing plays or running plays?

Without a doubt, their excellent rush game really opened things up on that 2 yard TD drive.



They relied heavily on the run there, which set them up for that excellent drive.

 

[visionary]

Without a doubt, their excellent rush game really opened things up on that 2 yard TD drive.



They relied heavily on the run there, which set them up for that excellent drive.

rushing: 234 yards rushing with 6 TDs
passing: 185 yards with 0 TDs

yep, all the rushing success was in the second half when the patriots were up big and the colts were trying to catch up

 

[Risen Star]

 

[Risen Star]

That was a joke, Percy. Be gentle.

 

[visionary]

That was a joke, Percy. Be gentle.

post padding is not allowed
esp for like collectors

 

[jterrell]

Romo had a 50% completion rate on 3rd downs, I'm still checking, but I bet that's in the bottom 10% among QBs.. Now there's a relative stat.

Not sure about that but I can tell you of 126 3rd down pass attempts he earned 48 first downs.
That was a fairly poor number at only 14th in the NFC.
It was bottom 3rd but not bottom 10%.

 

[DFWJC]

What's his playoff record compared to the current playoff QB's?

Tennis or golf?

 

[jterrell]

Brady through for less than 200 and 0 TDs

No offense but arguing NE as a run argument is just rather goofy.

NE takes advantage of it's own personnel.

They basically invented the empty sets and 2 TE sets with pass catching every down stuff.

Now they have crap WRs and they run the ball.

It is called using what works because working is what matters, not what you use.

 

[jterrell]

No offense but arguing NE as a run argument is just rather goofy.

NE takes advantage of it's own personnel.

They basically invented the empty sets and 2 TE sets with pass catching every down stuff.

Now they have crap WRs and they run the ball.

It is called using what works because working is what matters, not what you use.

Further, NE stays ahead of the game. That's the real beauty of that staff.
Everyone has film but that staff utilizes it.

When other teams develop great run stopping defenses they create crazy spreads you have to cover with 5 or 6 DBs on the field.

When other teams load up in coverage and forget about LB they attack with the run.

They force teams ot be good at ever y level and will attack anything that works repeatedly.

 

[visionary]

No offense but arguing NE as a run argument is just rather goofy.

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no more goofy than arguing that running the ball has no correlation with winning
clearly it does

the rest of your post i agree with

 

[jterrell]

since your post quoted madden as saying you have to score more points than the other team, were the scoring plays passing plays or running plays?

do they count scoring TDs and passing TDs different in the NFL?

 

[jterrell]

no more goofy than arguing that running the ball has no correlation with winning
clearly it does

the rest of your post i agree with

Running the ball's correlation with winning is speculative at best.
There have been any number of season's when top passing teams made deep playoff runs or won the SB while they were terrible run teams.

Ideally, obviously you'd like to do both but ultimately you just want to score the ball and win games.
I will certainly agree ignoring the run altogether and becoming predictable with passing leads to turnovers and losses.

The top 5 in rushing offense:
1. Philly -- one game playoff stay.
2. Buffalo -- missed
3. San Fran -- awesome
4. Seattle -- more awesome
5. Washington -- sucks at life

Each of the last 2 seasons 3 of the 5 top leading rushers in the NFL missed the playoffs.

 

[visionary]

do they count scoring TDs and passing TDs different in the NFL?

no, it was a different discussion in a different context

 

[visionary]

Running the ball's correlation with winning is speculative at best.
There have been any number of season's when top passing teams made deep playoff runs or won the SB while they were terrible run teams.

Ideally, obviously you'd like to do both but ultimately you just want to score the ball and win games.
I will certainly agree ignoring the run altogether and becoming predictable with passing leads to turnovers and losses.

The top 5 in rushing offense:
1. Philly -- one game playoff stay.
2. Buffalo -- missed
3. San Fran -- awesome
4. Seattle -- more awesome
5. Washington -- sucks at life

Each of the last 2 seasons 3 of the 5 top leading rushers in the NFL missed the playoffs.

agree 100% with you
try to be balanced
this does not mean 1:1 or even in every individual game but in most situations the other team should at least have to prepare for both options i.e. be unpredictable

on another note, i think that we do a good job of passing when the other team is expecting the pass (and that is largely becasue of romo) but there is something to be said to have the ability to run when the other team knows you are going to run

if every 3rd and 5 or more you are in shotgun and pass nearly 100% of the time, that is not a good strategy