Should JJ have traded for Jamie Collins?

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Jamie Collins was traded from NE to Cleveland for a 3rd round compensatory pick. I am assuming that's the last 3rd round pick.

Collin would probably be our best LDE from the get go and can easily play SLB. Biggest issue is that this is his contract year and he wants to cash it in. May cost a lot of $$ to resign him.

I think I do it. Here's my rationale. Because this is his contract year he will ball out. If he does that and help us get to or win the Big One (I don't want to say it) then he's worth it already. If he plays well we can still attempt to sign him long term (always a need for a pass rusher) and if we lose him to a big contract I am assuming we get a compensatory pick back for him....3rd or 4th rounder...so it's a even swap and we get a year out of him for cheap. So what do we really have to lose?!

 

[kevm3]

No way do I give up a 3rd for a year rental unless we absolutely fleece another team

 

[jrumann59]

you cant trade compensatory picks, at least I thought you couldn't.

 

[jnday]

you cant trade compensatory picks, at least I thought you couldn't.

Rules changed. Comp picks are tradable now.

 

[jrumann59]

Rules changed. Comp picks are tradable now.

not sure how I feel about that. Nothing stops a team like let say the Bears from tanking and not re-signing their own "star" FA and then signing "role" players and rolling the extra comp picks into better quality picks either into that round or higher.

 

[DTown214]

The thing is... I don't know if the Patriots would've given him to us even if we offered essentially the same thing. I think there's a reason why he ended up on the worst team in football. Right now the favorites to make it to the Super Bowl are the Patriots and the Cowboys. New England is smart enough not to strengthen their competition.

 

[Manster74]

Rules changed. Comp picks are tradable now.

Compensatory picks are tradable starting this year but they haven't been awarded yet have they? I believe it's a conditional 3rd rounder.

 

[cowboyz]

Yeah don't think they'd do that trade to the cowboys. belicheat sent a message to their players. Collins could get franchised and be stuck there.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah there's two problems here. I don't think the Pats trade him to us and I don't think it's worth trading a 2nd or 3rd rounder for a rental. and he's most definitely a rental if he wants "Von Miller money".

 

[Bullflop]

As much as I'd like to add a good pass rush artist to the fold, spending a 3rd round pick for one year is a bit too rich for my blood. Perhaps the offseason and/or the draft will find us welcoming a veteran FA or a young DE with long range potential. We need a sack master, that's for sure.

 

[JBell]

I mentioned this in the other Collins thread, but we drafted a guy in the 2nd round this year whose game reminds me a lot of Collins.

Be patient fellas..

 

[JohnsKey19]

only if you were committed to re-signing him, which is highly unlikely

 

[xwalker]

Jamie Collins was traded from NE to Cleveland for a 3rd round compensatory pick. I am assuming that's the last 3rd round pick.

Collin would probably be our best LDE from the get go and can easily play SLB. Biggest issue is that this is his contract year and he wants to cash it in. May cost a lot of $$ to resign him.

I think I do it. Here's my rationale. Because this is his contract year he will ball out. If he does that and help us get to or win the Big One (I don't want to say it) then he's worth it already. If he plays well we can still attempt to sign him long term (always a need for a pass rusher) and if we lose him to a big contract I am assuming we get a compensatory pick back for him....3rd or 4th rounder...so it's a even swap and we get a year out of him for cheap. So what do we really have to lose?!

He was listed as limited in the last practice report and had been out for awhile.

The trade pick is 2017. A comp pick will be 2018.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Does he play RDE, CB or SS? If not, then my answer is no.

 

[birdwells1]

Yeah there's two problems here. I don't think the Pats trade him to us and I don't think it's worth trading a 2nd or 3rd rounder for a rental. and he's most definitely a rental if he wants "Von Miller money".

That's propaganda.

 

[Broges74]

The thing is... I don't know if the Patriots would've given him to us even if we offered essentially the same thing. I think there's a reason why he ended up on the worst team in football. Right now the favorites to make it to the Super Bowl are the Patriots and the Cowboys. New England is smart enough not to strengthen their competition.

Yep, they deal good players to the Raiders and Browns of the world.

 

[HanD]

the pick is conditional in that if the browns do not have a 3rd round comp pick it becomes their 4th rounder.

 

[TheCount]

not sure how I feel about that. Nothing stops a team like let say the Bears from tanking and not re-signing their own "star" FA and then signing "role" players and rolling the extra comp picks into better quality picks either into that round or higher.

Haha, that sounds like the worst strategy of all time. The draft is a gamble, and it's not like they're going to get a 1st round compensatory pick.

Frankly, if a team wants to let a star go (because they don't believe he's a star or simply can't afford him) and gamble on receiving a high compensatory as a replacement, I don't really see what's wrong with that either. It's their gamble to take.

 

[DogFace]

The Browns third round pick will be worth more than ours. I'd guess New England would've wanted more from us.

 

[JBS]

The problem is paying this guy..he's going to get big big money

We also have to pay Martin