SI: NFC scout says about Witten "He’s almost resigned now to catching the ball and falling down."

[Ken]

By my count...9th in YAC yards for TEs last year. Does this scout consider the QBs who were trying to get him the ball failed miserably or that he was the focal point of defenses since we had no one else who scared them on the outside?

 

[Gameover]

I don't like Jason Witten, but these reasons are stupid. He's never been a great YAC guy. Certainly not in traffic.

 

[Denim Chicken]

YAC TE 2015

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I don't like Jason Witten.

Blasphemy.

 

[xwalker]

Besides his no helmet run against the Eagles.

Yep. They hit him high on that one which does not bother him. It is when they are going to tackle him below the waist that he tends to just do down. Considering his size relative to the DBs, they often go low to tackle him.

 

[Gameover]

Blasphemy.

Yeah I can't have an opinion that differs from the sheep.

 

[CATCH17]

I agree that he just chews up underneath stuff and plays crafty but last year i'm pretty sure he had 2 or 3 lower body injuries including an ankle.

That would slow down a 21 year old much less and old vet like him.

I expect a better Jason Witten this season.


IMO, we do need a guy with a skill set that can stretch the middle of the field. We would destroy teams if we had a TE that could do that with our run game.

 

[Denim Chicken]

By my count...9th in YAC yards for TEs last year. Does this scout consider the QBs who were trying to get him the ball failed miserably or that he was the focal point of defenses since we had no one else who scared them on the outside?

I was going to wait until more posters embarrassed themselves before posting the YAC stats. Oh well

 

[zrinkill]

Blasphemy.

More like stupidity.

 

[xwalker]

YAC TE 2015

It's yards after 1st contact that would be interesting in this discussion. I intentionally didn't mention YAC because he often gets himself so open that the defender is not there to immediately tackle him.

 

[Ken]

I was going to wait until more posters embarrassed themselves before posting the YAC stats. Oh well

In fairness to Witt....he's never been a great YAC guy....

But let's not let that little factoid stop anyone...haha

 

[Denim Chicken]

It's yards after 1st contact that would be interesting in this discussion. I intentionally didn't mention YAC because he often gets himself so open that the defender is not there to immediately tackle him.

The supposition was that he falls after catching the ball.

 

[xwalker]

I was going to wait until more posters embarrassed themselves before posting the YAC stats. Oh well

As I said in the previous post, YAC (Yards After Catch) is completely different than yards after first contact.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Witten catch percentage on catchable balls last season: 100%. With 4 different QBs.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

These guys can claim all they want but Witten moves the chains. He knows how to get open and is tough as nails. Next time he drags a couple of defenders past the 1st down mark I will be sure to revisit this thread.

This, exactly. I don't care if he has no RAC at all. In fact, I'm perfectly happy to have every Defense tackle him, either in the EZ or after he gets open for the 1st down.

 

[pacy]

YAC TE 2015

I am surprised that Tyler Eifert is that low.

 

[The Quest for Six]

So in order to catch the ball and fall down, don't you have to get open first for the ball to be thrown to you, which Witten does constantly and moves the chains which continues the drive........yet he's a declining player...yeah OK!

 

[zrinkill]

 

[xwalker]

The supposition was that he falls after catching the ball.

Fair enough. I'm not supporting that claim. I'm just pointing out why it probably appears that way to a casual observer.

I'm not in any way criticizing Witten. It is much better for him to stay healthy than to try to get an extra yard or two when defenders are coming in to tackle him low. If Dez had gone down quickly in the GB playoff game, the Cowboys likely would have won that game.

 

[Denim Chicken]

As I said in the previous post, YAC (Yards After Catch) is completely different than yards after first contact.

I can't find those stats. Unfortunately, it looks like PFF only tracks for RBs.

In 2015 Jason was 12th in YAC, 9th in total yards, 4th in receptions, with 9.3 yard average--all in a year with spotty QB play.

 

[mugsybows]

you know whats really overrated... scouts.