Sign Pharoh Cooper

[Avery]

I literally remember three returns for TD's for us in the last ten years or so. Dez took two back his rookie year and Switzer last year.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Cardinals used the #1 waiver priority on him

That's all you need to know

It could be that the Cardinals are playing the Rams this week. The Jags picked up Bo Scarbrough right before we played them, pretty common tactic.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

It could be that the Cardinals are playing the Rams this week. The Jags picked up Bo Scarbrough right before we played them, pretty common tactic.

Picking a guy up from a practice squad and using a #1 waiver priority are a little different, dontcha think?

Using the #1 waiver when your team has the worst record in the league, gunning for that #1 draft spot, while your opponent is one of the few power houses in the NFL. I doubt thats the case on this one.

They saw talent and they grabbed it.

 

[OmerV]

He averages 25.1 for his career. 21.3 this season on 6 attempts. Im not sure where you got 20.2

On top of that he's averaged 12.5!!!! And 6.0 yards per punt return the last two years respectively. We average 5.3 this season.

We'd take Cooper because he's a year removed from being the best kick returner in the league, would be our best punt returner since Harris, and is only 23 years old.

Thompson was also cut for added cap space and comp pick.

You're right about the 21.3. I'm not sure what I was looking at with the 20.2. In any case, still not much of an upgrade, especially for a guy that doesn't seem to have use as anything other than a return guy. I understand that he had a big 2017 as a return man, and because of that I would be interested in him for next year, but I doubt the team would be willing to cut a current receiver to make room, especially if he isn't fully recovered from his injury.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

You're right about the 21.3. I'm not sure what I was looking at with the 20.2. In any case, still not much of an upgrade, especially for a guy that doesn't seem to have use as anything other than a return guy. I understand that he had a big 2017 as a return man, and because of that I would be interested in him for next year, but I doubt the team would be willing to cut a current receiver to make room, especially if he isn't fully recovered from his injury.

When it comes to a 23 year old player, I'm thinking long term as well as short term. Especially at a position we have no young promising talent at.

I'd cut Lenior for Cooper in a millisecond

All this is moot though, as the Cards used the #1 waiver on him so we didnt have a chance regardless.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Picking a guy up from a practice squad and using a #1 waiver priority are a little different, dontcha think?

Using the #1 waiver when your team has the worst record in the league, gunning for that #1 draft spot, while your opponent is one of the few power houses in the NFL. I doubt thats the case on this one.

They saw talent and they grabbed it.

There is some merit in the "why is he available" argument. He was pro-bowler last season, why 2 weeks before the playoffs would they decide to cut him, especially when the guy they signed to fill in literally just fumbled a return last week that sealed their defeat? Maybe they didn't trust him to not fumble again in the playoffs like he did last year? He just had ankle surgery, who do we cut even if we had priority and how much is really going to help?

Sometimes the "why was he available" question is a valid one.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

There is some merit in the "why is he available" argument. He was pro-bowler last season, why 2 weeks before the playoffs would they decide to cut him, especially when the guy they signed to fill in literally just fumbled a return last week that sealed their defeat? Maybe they didn't trust him to not fumble again in the playoffs like he did last year? He just had ankle surgery, who do we cut even if we had priority and how much is really going to help?

Sometimes the "why was he available" question is a valid one.

Sure there is to the "why is he available" question and that's why I try to research , but there's never any merit to the "if he's so good why would he be available" argument. It's awful.

That's a possibility, but given that he's only had 3 fumbles in 100 career returns it's a very small chance.

I'd cut Lenior immediately for him, would you not?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

With Gordon gone from the Pats, looks like NE will sign him if he is any good.

 

[Joe Realist]

Only if he brings the Rams playbook with him, otherwise, no.

and offensive coaches?

 

[Creeper]

No thanks. Bonehead plays are a trademark of his.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

There is some merit in the "why is he available" argument. He was pro-bowler last season, why 2 weeks before the playoffs would they decide to cut him, especially when the guy they signed to fill in literally just fumbled a return last week that sealed their defeat? Maybe they didn't trust him to not fumble again in the playoffs like he did last year? He just had ankle surgery, who do we cut even if we had priority and how much is really going to help?

Sometimes the "why was he available" question is a valid one.

Here's some background from a credible source



They needed room to sign a backup RB. They felt since Cooper only had the KR job at this point and that KR have been marginalized they decided to cut him. They also have a solid replacement in Countess who is averaging 24.6 ypr.

So really nothing to do with Cooper, but more so the situation with the Rams. Didnt lose any faith, just had to make room.

 

[plymkr]

Miles is not coming back to Dallas no matter how much you liked him Catch.

Miles pulled his hamstring while you typed this.

 

[Dre11]

Do you think there might be a chance the Rams had a reason for letting him go, or that there is a reason a quality 2017 player has had so little production this season?

For example, I found this LA Time article online ...

Cooper, 23, suffered an ankle injury during the season opener at Oakland and underwent surgery. He returned in Week 13 at Detroit, but had not displayed the form that helped him average 27.4 yards per kickoff return last season.

You always have to look deeper and understand the circumstances.

All teams have reasons, doesn't make those reason are going to prevent them from not producing with you. If thats the case lets not sign any free agents or released players ever, that's asinine .

 

[Dre11]

I don't know man. I watched that Ram's game the other night and The Pharoah looked more like King Tut's mummy... all wrapped up and no place to go

That means what? Cooper was too in Oakland

 

[Dre11]

I cant stand it either.

It gets said over and over again during free agency and it's beyond ridiculous

It's like me saying "if derwin James was so good why was he available at pick 17"

Exactly

 

[northerncowboynation]

That means what? Cooper was too in Oakland

IDK, does it have to have a meaning lol. Maybe Pharoah is the guy that put's us over the top on a SB run (shrugs).

 

[Dre11]

50 cents I thought in your song lyric from the early 2000's, " it was like a fat kid loves cake".

I wasn't using 50 lyrics. He says something like that, but this is an expression used in urban settings

 

[Dre11]

IDK, does it have to have a meaning lol. Maybe Pharoah is the guy that put's us over the top on a SB run (shrugs).

He's been picked up by Arizona now, so it's a mute point

 

[OmerV]

When it comes to a 23 year old player, I'm thinking long term as well as short term. Especially at a position we have no young promising talent at.

I'd cut Lenior for Cooper in a millisecond

All this is moot though, as the Cards used the #1 waiver on him so we didnt have a chance regardless.

I forgot Lenoir was on the active roster. I would have done that as well.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Sure there is to the "why is he available" question and that's why I try to research , but there's never any merit to the "if he's so good why would he be available" argument. It's awful.

That's a possibility, but given that he's only had 3 fumbles in 100 career returns it's a very small chance.

I'd cut Lenior immediately for him, would you not?

As a PR/KR he has 1 career TD, but during last year's playoffs he fumbled a KR and muffed a punt, not a fumble, it bounced off his foot. They lost both and both lead to points and inevitably to losing the game. So add in another fumble and a muff, which was effectively a fumble to those 3 fumbles, since those were regular season only stats. Over the last 2 seasons he has 5 fumbles on 81 attempts seems kinda high, even for a Pro-Bowler.

As a WR, the past 2 years under McVay, he has 11 catches on 20 passes and 1 rush, 0 TDs, 1 drop....meh

Add in the fact, he's coming off ankle surgery, there's really not much to get excited over. There was no reason for us to claim him off waivers or to sign him if he becomes available. There will be players with more upside available.