Simple Math

Kangaroo;4851795 said:
Once again someone talking out their arse with no facts to back them up

Aaron Rodgers sacked 32 times oh winning record

Rogers > Romo
 
burmafrd;4852325 said:
If the Giants had not decided to have their usual slump we would not be contending for much of anything.

Amazing how many want to boast about being mediocre

and if we did not slump out at the end of the year last year, the Giants would not have made the playoff and won the superbowl.

I see no "boasting" here, only statements of fact.
 
Hostile;4852121 said:
Mine won't be funny.

My simple math.

Our first 8 opponents record to this point is 50-30. That equates to a .625 winning %. By far the hardest in the NFL. We were 3-5, and came within 2 feet and 4 fingertips of 5-3, plus played 2 other top teams as hard as they have been played this year.

Our second 8 opponents record to this point is 32-48. That equates to a .400 winning %. Which is the lowest remaining in the NFL. We are 2-0 so far against this schedule to bring us to 5-5.

Tomorrow we will hopefully move on the other side of the ledger and have a winning record. Then if the Packers handle the Giants, as they should, we will take the lead in the NFC East.

This despite a horrible OL to provide that no blocking you mentioned. This despite no running game due to a combination of no blocking and a key injury to our star RB and the heart of the Offense having some semblance of balance. This despite losing our Defensive leader and top tackler which leads to no tackling as you mentioned. Throw in 4 other key injuries and it can be seen as a miracle that we have contended at all.

I believe in miracles.

:laugh2: Let me just share that I read this particular post on my Android slimmed without seeing the name of the person that posted it. Then, to no surprise, I moved the windows over to see that it was you. Great perspective! Even though our offensive line leaves many of us on pins & needles every week, I am beginning to see some light at the end of the tunnel. 8-8 still seems likely but 9-7 is becoming an increasing possibility. If I have learned anything following the Boys over the past few years, it is to sit back and maintain an even keel. Enjoy the ride (good or bad) because nothing in life is guaranteed. Here's hoping for a major step forward tomorrow against a charged up Washington squad.
 
I just don't see us beating the Steelers, Bengals and Saints.

I also see a split with Washington.

7-9. No winning record.

I'm a fan, not a hater, but that's just the way I see it.
 
maxdallasfan;4852358 said:
I just don't see us beating the Steelers, Bengals and Saints.

I also see a split with Washington.

7-9. No winning record.

I'm a fan, not a hater, but that's just the way I see it.

That's fair, however I see it completely different. I think this team will see what is front of them and go grab it. I said it at the beginning of the year, this team feels different to me than the ones in the past. We have not had a ton of success, granted but we have fought harder this year than I have seen in a long time. That is very encouraging.

I think we beat Washingtion this week, Philly next week, I think we beat Cincy and Pittsburgh and washington again. The NO game is a toss up, so I will go with a loss there and we finish 10-6! How about that.
 
maxdallasfan;4852358 said:
I just don't see us beating the Steelers, Bengals and Saints.

I also see a split with Washington.

7-9. No winning record.

I'm a fan, not a hater, but that's just the way I see it.

Dallas could lose those game but I don't see any of those teams you are pointing to as teams without issues of their own and can't be beaten.

I think winning this coming game is big, after that getting the days off and hopefully start getting players back like Murray and some others can help in making the final push on the season.
 
Cowboy4ever;4852369 said:
That's fair, however I see it completely different. I think this team will see what is front of them and go grab it. I said it at the beginning of the year, this team feels different to me than the ones in the past. We have not had a ton of success, granted but we have fought harder this year than I have seen in a long time. That is very encouraging.

I think we beat Washingtion this week, Philly next week, I think we beat Cincy and Pittsburgh and washington again. The NO game is a toss up, so I will go with a loss there and we finish 10-6! How about that.

I like your thinking!!
 
All u need is a chip and a chair. But this team needs to score some points consistently.
 
As much as we are in contention today; we could also fall to third place in the NFC Least tomorrow behind a dreadful Commanders team that just beat us at home. Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow, before talking about contending. If we beat the Commanders and the Pack takes care of the Giants, then yes, we are right there in contention for the division. I want to see a competent offense tomorrow and a defensive game plan that holds RGIII in check before I get too excited.
 
links18;4852403 said:
As much as we are in contention today; we could also fall to third place in the NFC Least tomorrow behind a dreadful Commanders team that just beat us at home. Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow, before talking about contending. If we beat the Commanders and the Pack takes care of the Giants, then yes, we are right there in contention for the division. I want to see a competent offense tomorrow and a defensive game plan that holds RGIII in check before I get too excited.

Hope to see that as well. Main thing is get the win and then hopefully get some guys back on the OL and Murray back in the lineup. If Cowboys can get to 6-5 with NY playing the Packers on sunday and then get 11 days between games and as mentioned maybe get some starters back on the field then we just may have enough to make a final push. Tomorrows game is pretty big in terms of setting themselfs up for that push
 
links18;4852403 said:
As much as we are in contention today; we could also fall to third place in the NFC Least tomorrow behind a dreadful Commanders team that just beat us at home. Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow, before talking about contending. If we beat the Commanders and the Pack takes care of the Giants, then yes, we are right there in contention for the division. I want to see a competent offense tomorrow and a defensive game plan that holds RGIII in check before I get too excited.
Or we could acknowledge that the Commanders are also still in contention. Then we don't have to feel all guilty over something as innocent as the fact the Cowboys are.
 
TwoDeep3;4852266 said:
Momentary contending with a brutal schedule coming up means zip.

Every schedule has a soft part.

But for the football fan with enough experiences watching this game, the truth is on the table.

This team struggles with good defenses.

This team doesn't score enough points against those tough defenses.

This team has the Stealers, Bengals on the road, Saints, Washington twice and Philly.

Some around here pencil in what they think are gimme games.

Time is running out and all the math used by some doesn't block the blitz, nor does it open holes for the running game, and it doesn't cause the WR's to understand the nuances of the game and run the right routes.

And it sure doesn't cause Opie to manage a team successfully.

At least somebody here gets it.

Sure we can win the NFCE , "IF" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

If what?

If the Giants lose their next game . . . . . . . . .

If we win on Thanksgiving . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Then all of a sudden we are in position - Yes, its true, we could win the division.

If the Giants continue to struggle the rest of the way and we can win more than them.



By normal standards, when you speak of a "contending team" its a team that is not only in position to contend, but actually looks and plays like a team that has a realistic shot at winning it all.

To take a team that is really a pretender, and try to put all the "ifs" together and hope the "ifs" all fall into place like donimos so you have a shot at contending, isnt really a true contender. Pretender? YES! At this point this team is more of a pretender than contender.

We have a team that isnt even a "contender" for a wildcard spot, but may trip over their own feet by winning a sorry division "IF" the the other 3 teams lay down enough so we stumble in.

The only way to call this team a contender is to recognize that it is humanly possible for things to fall into place so that it COULD happen. Nothing else other than the "possibility" of it happening says contender about this team.
 
Hostile;4852334 said:
Seattle finished 7-9 just 2 years ago and contended. That is a fact, whether you are intelligent enough to accept it or not.

Wow.

Tough one to answer.
 
I wrote NY off last year and look what happened. Like someone else mentioned this team can either beat or lose to anyone on any particular day.

We certainly qualify for a Jekyll and Hyde team IMO.
 
I always figured contending was getting past the first play-off game.

I mean they do call that punch drunk pug who is ranked 10th a contender.

But is he really?

Dallas played Cleveland and the announcers were talking all through the game how the Browns needed to learn how to win. They played tough but lost late.

So is this a real test?

Is beating a rookie QB with the Eagles a real test?

Is beating the Bucs who decided to be brain dead calling running plays when their passing game was working a real test?

And why should you care what I think about this team?

But when they end up 6-10 or 7-9, no play-offs and another season of Romo wasted, I ask you this.

What is the real difference between Opie and his middle of the road team and Campo and his 5-11 teams.

The answer is draft slotting.

Because .500 ain't winning in my book.
 
TwoDeep3;4852655 said:
What is the real difference between Opie and his middle of the road team and Campo and his 5-11 teams.

The answer is draft slotting.

Because .500 ain't winning in my book.

That's it in a nutshell, folks.
 
Tell it to NY who was 500 heading into week 17 needing a win to get into post season and then made it all the way.

before any team has a chance you got to get to the post season.

I don't know if Dallas will or won't but I do know with 6 games remaining there is still a good chance they can.
 
TwoDeep3;4852655 said:
I always figured contending was getting past the first play-off game.

I mean they do call that punch drunk pug who is ranked 10th a contender.

But is he really?

Dallas played Cleveland and the announcers were talking all through the game how the Browns needed to learn how to win. They played tough but lost late.

So is this a real test?

Is beating a rookie QB with the Eagles a real test?

Is beating the Bucs who decided to be brain dead calling running plays when their passing game was working a real test?

And why should you care what I think about this team?

But when they end up 6-10 or 7-9, no play-offs and another season of Romo wasted, I ask you this.

What is the real difference between Opie and his middle of the road team and Campo and his 5-11 teams.

The answer is draft slotting.

Because .500 ain't winning in my book.

Well, hell, if you're going to make up your own rules, then tell us so we have some idea of which reality you are experiencing.

So, when 7-9 Seattle beat NO a few years back, that was contending.

GB last year, 15-1, did not contend.

Gotcha.
 
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