News: Six Cap Moves The Cowboys Will Make In The 2017 Offseason

[AbeBeta]

HE WAS UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2015 for 675k

THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM 17M TO PLAY ONE MORE YEAR

2017 was never a cut year ....that is ridiculous

If you think taking a 10.3m cap hit to waive TCrawford is a good plan you don't understand the cap nearly as well as you think

He was going to be an unrestricted free agent in 2016. Teams regularly try to sign guys early, betting that they can save money on them vs. what it would cost to have them on the open market. You clearly don't understand how the league works.

You also don't seem to understand the cap at all. Crawford has a 10.3 mill cap hit if he stays. He's got at 10.3 mil cap hit if we cut him. That is exactly the situation under which you release an under performing player.

Another poster screaming about dead money and not really understanding what it means.

 

[Nightman]

If the team determines that he's not worth paying $7.25 million to play this season, you don't keep him at that price just because you planned for him to be worth it. If it's a bad deal, it's a bad deal, and you get out of it as soon as possible. Otherwise, you're just compounding the problem.

that is all understandable but not the point......he said this was the plan all along....deciding whether to cut him this year or not.........I was clearly showing that cutting him one year into his extension after paying him 17m for that one year would be a horrible plan

you can cut any player at any time without guaranteed money if you feel they aren't living up to the deal but that doesn't make it a good plan or smart business....... the ability to stop the bleeding in that manner should be a a worst case scenario....plus:

1- Crawford has actually over performed his contract... he was 15th of ALL DL/OLB in hurries
2- they have to add talent, not lose it on the DL
3- you don't give 17m guaranteed with another 7.25m gtd in March to someone you want to after Year One

 

[Nightman]

He was going to be an unrestricted free agent in 2016. Teams regularly try to sign guys early, betting that they can save money on them vs. what it would cost to have them on the open market. You clearly don't understand how the league works.

You also don't seem to understand the cap at all. Crawford has a 10.3 mill cap hit if he stays. He's got at 10.3 mil cap hit if we cut him. That is exactly the situation under which you release an under performing player.

Another poster screaming about dead money and not really understanding what it means.

Don't use my own insults against me.......i forgot more about the cap than you know

no team gives a player 17m gtd and another 7.25m gtd year 2 to a player they want to cut after one year

yes he was an UFA but not until AFTER 2015........they gave him 17m for 2016 under your idiotic scenario

being cap neutral at 10m is not a good thing for one years service.......you really can't be this stupid....I have like many of your posts but you have a gigantic boulder in your eye on this one

whoever told you that (Dead Money=Cap Hit)is a good time to cut is wrong...it is the first time it is possible to consider it........ but it is a worst case scenario for getting out of a contract after one year.......to do this with Crawford would be moronic

 

[AbeBeta]

Don't use my own insults against me.......i forgot more about the cap than you know

no team gives a player 17m gtd and another 7.25m gtd year 2 to a player they want to cut after one year

yes he was an UFA but not until AFTER 2015........they gave him 17m for 2016 under your idiotic scenario

being cap neutral at 10m is not a good thing for one years service.......you really can't be this stupid....I have like many of your posts but you have a gigantic boulder in your eye on this one

whoever told you that (Dead Money=Cap Hit)is a good time to cut is wrong...it is the first time it is possible to consider it........ but it is a worst case scenario for getting out of a contract after one year.......to do this with Crawford would be moronic

Two years service. And any cut that leaves you cap neutral is a good one.

It was a two year show me deal. Only fools believe it was one and that he's earned it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Don't use my own insults against me.......i forgot more about the cap than you know

no team gives a player 17m gtd and another 7.25m gtd year 2 to a player they want to cut after one year

yes he was an UFA but not until AFTER 2015........they gave him 17m for 2016 under your idiotic scenario

being cap neutral at 10m is not a good thing for one years service.......you really can't be this stupid....I have like many of your posts but you have a gigantic boulder in your eye on this one

whoever told you that (Dead Money=Cap Hit)is a good time to cut is wrong...it is the first time it is possible to consider it........ but it is a worst case scenario for getting out of a contract after one year.......to do this with Crawford would be moronic

Man, you can't even read a deal. 17 mill guaranted. 2017 salary guaranteed AFTER March 13th.

It's such an obvious paycut or get cut situation.

You must be trolling me because your posts continue to miss basic facts

 

[Nightman]

Two years service. And any cut that leaves you cap neutral is a good one.

It was a two year show me deal. Only fools believe it was one and that he's earned it.

you keep skipping that 2015 was part of his rookie deal....but that doesn't fit your fairy tale......he was signed for 675k before the extension

2015 was not part of the extension.......the 16.7m in new money just covered 2016 and beyond.....that means 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020........cutting good players one year into 5 year deals is moronic

 

[AbeBeta]

you keep skipping that 2015 was part of his rookie deal......he was signed for 675k before the extension

2015 was not part of the extension.......the 17m in new money just covered 2016 and beyond.....that means 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020........cutting good players one year into 5 year deals is moronic

You keep skipping that he got the SB in 2015. Because the team bet that he'd get more on the open market.

He's two years into the cap hits from his deal. Moronic is not realizing we structured the deal to protect us in exactly this way if he sucked

 

[Nightman]

You keep skipping that he got the SB in 2015. Because the team bet that he'd get more on the open market.

He's two years into the cap hits from his deal. Moronic is not realizing we structured the deal to protect us in exactly this way if he sucked

that is not how it works.....the pro-ration of the signing bonus is just for the bookkeeping

they still paid him 16.7m for one year under your 'test plan'.......which he passed by the way with flying colors

they owe him 4/28m going forward........cutting him now is just plain stupid because that is well below the going rate for a player of TCrawford's ability

 

[AbeBeta]

that is not how it works.....the pro-ration of the signing bonus is just for the bookkeeping

they still paid him 16.7m for one year under your 'test plan'.......which he passed by the way with flying colors

they owe him 4/28m going forward........cutting him now is just plain stupid because that is well below the going rate for a player of TCrawford's ability

No, just plain stupid is your analysis. They owe him nothing going forward.

You don't realize the 4/28 isn't guaranteed? That we can walk away from it?

Good lord.

 

[Hoofbite]

All the money the team would be freeing up is money that was added as a result of previously restructured contracts. Has been for a few years. 22 teams have more than $25M in cap space. and 12 teams have more than $40M. They aren't going to outspend anyone without significantly overpaying. They do currently have the advantage of being a competitive team, which could buy them some talent over teams who have no chance of competing.

 

[CCBoy]

Just resign Williams, Carr, Church, Wilcox, Claiborne, Cooper, Escobar, Kellen Moore, redo the contracts to extend Martin and this group...plus Sheldon Richardson...and then make the drafting of Myles Garrett a reality. Then start lining up meat trucks for the dogs...

 

[AdamJT13]

that is all understandable but not the point......he said this was the plan all along....deciding whether to cut him this year or not.........I was clearly showing that cutting him one year into his extension after paying him 17m for that one year would be a horrible plan

OK, I thought you were saying we shouldn't cut him because of the cost involved. No, the plan was not to cut him, but that should not be a factor in the decision.

 

[Nightman]

OK, I thought you were saying we shouldn't cut him because of the cost involved. No, the plan was not to cut him, but that should not be a factor in the decision.

I agree with that........... Dead money should not be a factor in the decision to cut or keep a player

it should always be if he is worth his salary going forward and can he be replaced