Six Teams Grade Solomon Thomas Mid-to-Late First

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Six Teams Grade Solomon Thomas Mid-to-Late First
Updated March 1, 2017
By Charlie Campbell. Follow Charlie on Twitter @draftcampbell.

One of the fastest rising prospects in mock drafts since the end of the 2016 season was Stanford defensive end Solomon Thomas. BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1 was first to report that Thomas would leave the Cardinal early for the 2017 NFL Draft, and his huge bowl game against North Carolina jump started a lot of hype for Thomas that led to him being projected to go in the top 10 picks, with Thomas being as high as No. 4 overall in Walt's 2017 NFL Mock Draft. In speaking with sources from seven different teams, however, six of them thought that Thomas is more of a mid-to-late first-round pick.

A general manger of a NFC playoff team said Thomas should go in the top 24 picks, but they didn't have him as a high first-rounder. Another AFC playoff team graded him as a late first-round pick. The issue that is coming up the most with Thomas is that many teams feel he has tweener size with listed numbers of 6-foot-3, 273-pounds. Some 3-4 teams feel that he isn't a great fit in their defense and more of a 4-3 end. Sources from that AFC playoff team said that Thomas is more of a good left defensive end for a 4-3 team. They think he has good technique, hand use, awareness, and feel while also being a great person off the field. An NFC team picking in the top 20 said they thought Thomas would go in the 11-20 range.

There were a number of interesting comments about Thomas from league sources. One AFC director of college scouting picking in the top 20 had this to say about Thomas: "Late one is right for him. Not worthy of a top 10. Nice player, but not special; undersized defensive end."

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Doesn't surprise me one bit; the talk of him being Aaron Donald-like is ridiculous. In my 'draft hot takes' thread I talked about the problem/issue of where do you play Thomas on a down-in, down-out basis; he's not shown the ability to consistently capture the edge against OTs and he gets mauled inside against skilled OGs & Cs. I think he's pass rush specialist on the inside on obvious passing downs or an LDE.
 

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huge bowl game against North Carolina jump started a lot of hype for Thomas that led to him being projected to go in the top 10 picks,

What people dont realize is he was going against UNC backups at Guard and Tackle. They sustained multiple OL injuries late in the year. I wouldn't put too much stock in that tape.

Caleb Peterson and Jon Heck were both out. FWIW Heck is a guy I would like to try to draft and play RT. NFL pedigree. Dad is OL coach for the chiefs who played 12 years in the league.
 

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What people dont realize is he was going against UNC backups at Guard and Tackle. They sustained multiple OL injuries late in the year. I wouldn't put too much stock in that tape.

Caleb Peterson and Jon Heck were both out. FWIW Heck is a guy I would like to try to draft and play RT. NFL pedigree. Dad is OL coach for the chiefs who played 12 years in the league.
Is that Andy Heck's boy?
 

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Ejuan Price is going to make somebody one hell of a linebacker. He's like a little bowling ball that eats QBs up. He's had 24.5 sacks and 42.5 tackles for loss in just the last two seasons.
 

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yep. His brother is at UNC also. 2 of the biggest humans I have ever stood beside. 6'6 or 7 and 300. Both of them
Andy is a big dude himself (I think he's 6-6). Didn't realize he had sons that played but it isn't surprising given the genes.
 

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Andy is a big dude himself (I think he's 6-6). Didn't realize he had sons that played but it isn't surprising given the genes.

Andy Heck came to Notre Dame as a tight end before transitioning to tackle. He was a good player for the Seahawks and Bears.
 

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Ejuan Price is going to make somebody one hell of a linebacker. He's like a little bowling ball that eats QBs up. He's had 24.5 sacks and 42.5 tackles for loss in just the last two seasons.
Put him on an aggressive 3-4 team as a designated pass rusher, he could make some noise.
 

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Price is a really good undersized guy. He gets a lot of pressure but hes not a fit for us unfortunately
Same goes for a lot of good talent.

Oh well, not twitchy or tall or long armed.
 

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Agreed, would you rather McDowell?

Yeah I think McDowell has the higher ceiling. I don't think either really helps us in our most pressing needs on defense but if McDowell is the BPA on the board at 28 for us, I don't have an issue with taking him.
 

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Yeah I think McDowell has the higher ceiling. I don't think either really helps us in our most pressing needs on defense but if McDowell is the BPA on the board at 28 for us, I don't have an issue with taking him.
I think him next to Collins will be a nightmare on the inside for most teams in the NFL. Thats just me. We cant seem to generate pressure on the outside, so may as well work on the strength of the defense if there is one. IMO
 

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I think him next to Collins will be a nightmare on the inside for most teams in the NFL. Thats just me. We cant seem to generate pressure on the outside, so may as well work on the strength of the defense if there is one. IMO

Would he play next to Collins in this system? McDowell is either a 3 tech or a SDE in this defense. I don't think they'd view him as a 1 tech unless you are suggesting Collins moves over to the 1 tech spot.
 

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Would he play next to Collins in this system? McDowell is either a 3 tech or a SDE in this defense. I don't think they'd view him as a 1 tech unless you are suggesting Collins moves over to the 1 tech spot.
Whatever works. I just want some damn pressure lol
 
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