Skins ready to move on from RGIII

[lostar2009]

With a 16 mil cap number next season NOBODY is going to trade for him. Washingon will have to release him after the season. Thing is if he gets hurt this year and his injury carries over into next season, per the CBA, Washington will NOT be able to cut him and will have to pay him his full salary.

If I'm not mistaken since he was a top pick isn't pretty much his while salary is guaranteed ? Oh and trust me a qb thirsty team will look into RG3. But then I think about it I can't think of team this year that have a bad qb situation. Every team so far has someone with potential except for the Commanders.

 

[Plankton]

LOL you're right. I cant remember the last time we got a guy who used to play for the skins. had to be forever ago.

One of Jimmy Johnson's early moves when he came to Dallas was to trade for Dean Hamel, a DT for the Commanders. Hamel started most of the 1989 season.

 

[Plankton]

Griffin literally needs to be torn down to the foundation, and rebuilt. He has to completely learn how to play the position fundamentally - from studying film, to his footwork, to anticipation of routes.

I am not particularly impressed with what Wade Wilson brings to the table as a QB coach, so I don't think Dallas is a good place for a flailing QB to learn how to play the position. With a different QB coach, perhaps.

 

[The Natural]

In a new york minute

 

[Aikmaniac]

No thanks. What's the latest on Aaron Murray in KC?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I wouldn't have a problem giving him a shot.

He has the athletic ability to play the position. He is mobile and he does have a strong arm.

What he needs to do is sit on the bench and work on his mechanics. I would take him on the cheap and only if he realizes that he's not going to get a *chance* to start for the 2-3 years and only if he continues to work hard and progress and at a cheap rate.

I have zero problem with that.




YR

 

[Plankton]

If they were going to dump him, they would not have picked up his 2016 option for 16M.

It is more likely that the HC will get fired there if RG-Knee does not play or play well this season.

Picking up the option is ceremonial, and means nothing other than trying to give the QB confidence about his future. The money isn't guaranteed. They can cut him now, and only be on the hook for this season's salary.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Griffin literally needs to be torn down to the foundation, and rebuilt. He has to completely learn how to play the position fundamentally - from studying film, to his footwork, to anticipation of routes.

I am not particularly impressed with what Wade Wilson brings to the table as a QB coach, so I don't think Dallas is a good place for a flailing QB to learn how to play the position. With a different QB coach, perhaps.

Yea, he really should do his best to latch on to a talented team with an aging QB and just sit and learn. Dallas does come to mind, but so does Denver and Arizona.

 

[Bizwah]

I wouldn't have a problem giving him a shot.

He has the athletic ability to play the position. He is mobile and he does have a strong arm.

What he needs to do is sit on the bench and work on his mechanics. I would take him on the cheap and only if he realizes that he's not going to get a *chance* to start for the 2-3 years and only if he continues to work hard and progress and at a cheap rate.

I have zero problem with that.




YR

This is the best post in this thread.

 

[Plankton]

RG3 isn't going to Dallas and the Skins will want something in return. This is a stunt to get teams in line to trade for him. Me personally I think Gruden don't want him and he will learn soon how not having a decent qb can end someone coaching career. If there is a drift those guys need to work it out. It's odd when Shannhan was there no problems. But once Gruden came in here comes the issues.

Not true at all - Griffin and Shanahan had plenty of problems.

Shanahan should have pulled him from the game against the Seahawks. Like a cornerman in boxing, he needed to protect his QB from himself. Shanahan didn't, and the trust between the two was permanently fractured. It has been downhill for Griffin ever since.

 

[black label]

 

[DallasInDC]

Yes, he has no OL. He's a part of a dysfunctional organization. He's better than Weeden, Vaughn, and Showers.

hmmm, that same OL didn't seem to have a problem protecting Cousins when he started.

QB ATT Sacks
RGIII 214 33
Cousins 204 8

RGIII has very poor pocket presences, doesn't feel where the pressure is coming from, and panics when there is a push in the pocket. This makes his OL look worse than they actually are.

 

[tideh20heel]

Jerry took QC in the 2nd round. That's high enough. I wouldn't be surprised if we picked QC with our first round pick in 2001 if we still had it.

In the front office's defense they liked Brees a lot and probably would have taken him instead.

 

[DallasInDC]

Same excuses people used for Weeden, the he got here and everyone realized that maybe it's him. So while I do agree that RG3 played behind a poor o-line and is a part of a dysfunctional o-line, he makes the o-line look worse because he holds the ball to long, not trusting what he sees and he's also a large part of the current dysfunction. On top of that, he's almost afraid to take shots down field. I live in the Washington DC area and have seen almost all of his games, and trust me when I say, he'll throw it deep on play actions, but he's so worried about throwing ints that he takes literally no chances.

Looks like you and I see things the same way

 

[Aikmaniac]

I wouldn't have a problem giving him a shot.

He has the athletic ability to play the position. He is mobile and he does have a strong arm.

What he needs to do is sit on the bench and work on his mechanics. I would take him on the cheap and only if he realizes that he's not going to get a *chance* to start for the 2-3 years and only if he continues to work hard and progress and at a cheap rate.

I have zero problem with that.




YR

Any thoughts on his shortcomings as a leader and or teammate ?

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Looks like you and I see things the same way

anyone who thinks getting RG3 would be some sort of coup, just has not been paying attention since the end of 2012. he clearly can make any throw and still has elite level athleticism, but he's just to thin skinned to be an NFL QB imo, which has lead to problems with coaches.

 

[tideh20heel]

Picking up the option is ceremonial, and means nothing other than trying to give the QB confidence about his future. The money isn't guaranteed. They can cut him now, and only be on the hook for this season's salary.

They actually can't cut him now because he isn't cleared. Once he passes a physical they can

 

[Bizwah]

hmmm, that same OL didn't seem to have a problem protecting Cousins when he started.

QB ATT Sacks
RGIII 214 33
Cousins 204 8

RGIII has very poor pocket presences, doesn't feel where the pressure is coming from, and panics when there is a push in the pocket. This makes his OL look worse than they actually are.

He needs time to learn. As Parcells said in the Deep Blue story, too many QBs are thrown into the fire before they're ready. He would be a good fit here behind the consummate pro, Romo. He would be a much better backup than anything we have on the roster now.

Is he a better option than any other potential cut? It depends. I would take Barkley or Sanchez, Austin Davis....but we don't know who will be cut yet.

 

[DallasInDC]

I see a lot of talk about RGIIIs athleticism amd arm strength as a reason for wanting him, but think some people are overlooking his injury history and the impact that has had on his athleticism. RGIII has had two ACL tears a LCL tear, dislocated ankle, and several concussions. This has definitely had impact on his speed and ability cut. If you watched him play last year, you saw him getting chased down by linemen and linebackers....something that never would have happened in his rookie year. He is not very durable and is an injury waiting to happen....that is not something you want in a QB who can only perform well in a read option type offense.

 

[DallasInDC]

He needs time to learn. As Parcells said in the Deep Blue story, too many QBs are thrown into the fire before they're ready. He would be a good fit here behind the consummate pro, Romo. He would be a much better backup than anything we have on the roster now.

Is he a better option than any other potential cut? It depends. I would take Barkley or Sanchez, Austin Davis....but we don't know who will be cut yet.

I think that was true when he first came into the league. now I think he is only damaged goods (see my previous posts on his injuries and durability). and as I posted in another post he will not be better than Weeden in 2015 so if you are thinking of trading for him, I would much rather draft a QB in rounds 1-3 next year or pick up a FA QB that is not going to cost us $16MM. If you think he will released, the odds are likely that one of the 26 teams ahead of us on the waiver wire pick him up (preferably the Eagles who offer him a huge contract).