Slot WR vs Passing Receiving "3rd Down" RB

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  1. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    Nope...…….that's exactly what we don't need. What we need is another quality, all around back that can keep the run game humming when Zeke needs a rest or gets hurt.
     
  2. gp_cowpolk

    gp_cowpolk Landry Hat Zone Supporter

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    Zeke would be a great slot receiver he has great hands and the speed to do it just move him around
     
  3. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    No question about Zeke being a 3-down back and a damn good one. My point was if we're planning to give him a long-term deal, he can't have over 400+ touches ( similar to DeMarco Murray's final year). Otherwise, you risk wearing him down before his potential $14-15M long-term deal ends. I'm guessing the FO is on the same page coz this first they seem determined to find good quality back-up and not just a body.

    BTW..agree 100%, the division is our for the taking.
     
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  4. Number1

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    all other RBs fall short of that standard

    not a real good argument for playing a guy obviously hampered
     
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  5. SSoup

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    Putting a backup RB on the field in Elliott's place seems unlikely to make us situationally better at running or at passing. Putting a backup RB on the field in place of a WR seems unlikely to make us better equipped to pass either.

    Moreover, I'm not nuts about bending over backwards to find a passing game specialist RB. I'd much rather have good all-around RBs in the stable who, if Elliott goes down, aren't just gadget players who catch passes, but will actually be a threat to run the football like a starting RB.

    Maybe Kellen Moore will be better at this, but we've had a bad habit lately of kidding ourselves that specialty players are some amazing secret weapon. When we send a gadget player onto the field to perform their novelty act, opposing defenses tend to see it coming from a mile away and have zero trouble handling it whatsoever.
     
  6. 1LoyalCowboyFan

    1LoyalCowboyFan Active Member Zone Supporter

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    James Williams WSU
     
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Riding the Red Rocket Staff Member

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    Johnson would be a great alternative to Zeke if he’s available. We still need to be looking at another talented WR early. We need all the weapons we can get, and we need another red zone threat.
     
  8. xwalker

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    Yes, he had a lot of receptions for a RB.

    Fearless with great balance.

    Elusive despite lacking great speed.

    Balance is something that does not get discussed enough. Some otherwise great athletes don't have it while some athletes with average measurables have great balance (Emmitt, Boobie Williams).
     
  9. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Good all around RBs tend to go earlier in the draft and likely earlier than the Cowboys will pick a RB.

    The type of RB that I described tends to go in mid/late.
     
  10. DakPresgoat

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    I hear you. But to be honest my preference would be for them to carry 3 RB’s on the roster.

    One back up should be the well rounded RB that can spell Zeke in any situation and also carry the load if god forbid Zeke gets hurt.

    The 3rd running back on the roster could be the 3rd down back type. Small, shiftiest, with speed/quickness who can make things happen in the open field.
     
  11. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    The dirty little secret is that Zeke wasn't even that effective last year. Volume masked his bad efficiency.
     
  12. Typhus

    Typhus Catching Catfish

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    49ers signed Tevin Coleman on a two year 8.5 mil deal.
    Would have been worth that to keep Zeke around a bit longer.
     
  13. starfan1

    starfan1 Well-Known Member

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    True dat and I have mixed feelings on the rb position on one hand I get that zeke is the motor for this team and based on recent contracts and words from Steven he’s going to get paid handsomely so save him a bit for the back end

    On the other hand I can see the rationale of using him and moving on much like Murray get what you can while you can.

    I would lean towards option 1
     
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  14. Hawkeye0202

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    I think the motivation to give Zeke a long-term deal vs Murray is a bit different for a few reasons. We have a 4th overall pick invested in Zeke vs Murray was 2nd rounder. Also, Zeke age and he doesn't have Murray's injury history.

    Not sure if you remember, but they made no secret about the concerns they had giving Murray a long-term even during his record-breaking 2014 season. Stephen showing the media a chart/stats that RB's careers start declining after 27. Jerry saying he believed Joe Randall or almost any back could get 1500 yards behind our OL. Even Romo, Garrett and Witten tried to convince Stephen to get Murray signed. Of course after letting him walk we tried to bring him back.

    My point here, I think the Murray issue taught Stephen a lesson about keeping a franchise type RB.
     
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  15. Whirlwin

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    I could tell you. Tony Dorset and Robert Newhouse. No and he didn't take himself out of the game that often. Jimmie Johnson wouldn't stand for it at least stay in there and be a decoy. I don't recall who Emmett's backup was. I know the guy had a great day in the rain and everybody want him to start. And Jimmy said woah down slow down
     
  16. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    Zeke is a pass catching RB
     
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  17. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    First of all I don't think Elliot it's the best running back in the league. I think the Giants have the guy Barkley.
     
  18. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    Smash Mouth football they know it's coming I hope this new offensive brings some balance.
     
  19. 1LoyalCowboyFan

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    I used to think he’d make it to the 7th. I don’t anymore. I don’t think I’d be upset in the 5th. He seems like the running back NE would get and be super productive.
     
  20. Johnny23

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    It's not an either or thing. You get a recieving back and a slot receiver. You put the most talent on the field.
     

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