So how did every team do compared to Mayock's top 100?

[Cowboys22]

Very interesting.

http://i.imgur.com/vrWeDvq.png

 

[DEZBRYANT x88x]

It wasn't a terrible draft, it was just we didn't fill the needs.

 

[Wood]

I think Dallas is looking at only 1 1/2 starters. TE will be in certain subsets. C needs to start or its a big fail.

 

[Cowboys22]

I think Dallas is looking at only 1 1/2 starters. TE will be in certain subsets. C needs to start or its a big fail.

I think that attitude is the problem many people have. A draft is not geared soley towards week 1 of the upcoming season. It is geared towards building the entire team for years to come. They are going to have to shed salary again next year so that means guys who are not living up to their contract have to go. Thats Austin and Scandrick. Well, they drafted two pretty good football players to fill those spots after this season. Both may even take them at some point this year. All 7 picks have the ability to develop into starters. Witten will not play forever and when he hangs it up we are going to love the fact that we have Escobar on the team. So what if Randle doesn't start over Murray. We now have a guy that won't be a huge dropoff if and when he has to play.

 

[perrykemp]

Very interesting.

http://i.imgur.com/vrWeDvq.png

Looks like Mayock had Frederick as a 3-4th round type of player and Escobar as a 3rd rounder.

On one hand I guess we can be happy the Cowboys drafted 5 guys in Mayock's Top 100, however, also looking at these numbers it would also indicate the Cowboys 1st two picks were taken too high.

 

[Wood]

I think that attitude is the problem many people have. A draft is not geared soley towards week 1 of the upcoming season. It is geared towards building the entire team for years to come. They are going to have to shed salary again next year so that means guys who are not living up to their contract have to go. Thats Austin and Scandrick. Well, they drafted two pretty good football players to fill those spots after this season. Both may even take them at some point this year. All 7 picks have the ability to develop into starters. Witten will not play forever and when he hangs it up we are going to love the fact that we have Escobar on the team. So what if Randle doesn't start over Murray. We now have a guy that won't be a huge dropoff if and when he has to play.

normally I agree with the drafting for future years but Romo contract tells me this is a 3 year plan..then they will need to rebuild this team. They needed more starters and they needed more lineman on both sides ball. They drafted skill positions where starters are firmly entrenched.

 

[xwalker]

Very interesting.

http://i.imgur.com/vrWeDvq.png

The Cowboys were 1 of 3 teams that had 5 players on the list. The other 2 teams 1st picks were #6 and #8.

 

[xwalker]

normally I agree with the drafting for future years but Romo contract tells me this is a 3 year plan..then they will need to rebuild this team. They needed more starters and they needed more lineman on both sides ball. They drafted skill positions where starters are firmly entrenched.

Yes, they need an immediate starter on the OLine. They have plenty of projects already on the roster. More late round OL picks wouldn't really help.

 

[Cowboys22]

normally I agree with the drafting for future years but Romo contract tells me this is a 3 year plan..then they will need to rebuild this team. They needed more starters and they needed more lineman on both sides ball. They drafted skill positions where starters are firmly entrenched.

They drafted a starter at the weakest OL spot. Who else available at 47 and beyond was going to come in and start right away. They stated they didn't really like Warmack or Jones. They have 14 OL on the roster right now and my bet is they want to give Leary, Arkin, and Kowloski tons of reps this year to see what they have. If they don't view a player as better than all three of them, it would be a wasted pick. They also are likely to sign a vet RT so they may have decided drafting on made no sense. The DL starters are set. I think they could have used a pick on a DE for depth but if Price is healthy, you have 5 DTs that are a lock to make the team. Where is a rookie going to fit in much less start?

 

[DBOY3141]

The Cowboys were 1 of 3 teams that had 5 players on the list. The other 2 teams 1st picks were #6 and #8.

I think we also had 5 players in Kipers top 100 and he loved Randle even though he wasn't in his top 100...but yet Kiper gives out a C+.


Solid football players with most contributing year 1 and starting year 2 and 3.

 

[LarryCanadian]

I'll say it again.
I also wanted to see more picks in the trenches, BUT, overall, how does the media pick on the Boys' draft so much when:

On both Mayock's and Kiper's top 100, we got 5 players on each I believe, PLUS we got a RB that was very highly rated on average as well.

OK, we didn't get any of the top 15, but the team was reported as only ever having about 17 1st Round Rated Players anyway.....

I DO think this team improved it's depth and youth with upside. I like the players. Not sure I would have picked TE and WR's but that doesn't mean I don't see the value in those players.......longer-term.

I would DEARLY like to see a free-agent OT signed still in FA, and the tires kicked at DE/DT here and there, but I think there is a good chance for all the draft picks (ALL 7) to stick on this roster, and for a number of years.

Solid, not sexy.

 

[speedkilz88]

[cowboys22]I think you meant Warford. Easy to get them mixed up. Although on thebreak they said they weren't that high on any of the Alabama guys as far as fitting what Callahan wants. But that they thought Warmack could still fit.

 

[Cowboys22]

[cowboys22]I think you meant Warford. Easy to get them mixed up. Although on thebreak they said they weren't that high on any of the Alabama guys as far as fitting what Callahan wants. But that they thought Warmack could still fit.

Yes, I did mean Warford. Thanks.

 

[jterrell]

normally I agree with the drafting for future years but Romo contract tells me this is a 3 year plan..then they will need to rebuild this team. They needed more starters and they needed more lineman on both sides ball. They drafted skill positions where starters are firmly entrenched.

Dallas wasnt drafting a starter on either line at 47.

They already drafted an OL starter at 31. That's why they reached. He was the last OL starter on the board for them.

Dallas could have drafted a starter at safety at 47. Outside of that position though everyone else was a contributor type. You could argue RB/WR as most likely to start(based on injuries). Maybe SAM if you dismiss the guys we have in house already.

No go amongst the OL. From 47 and forward the next OL drafted was Warford in round 3. He is a very poor athlete who lacks speed, quickness and movement skills in general. He would not have walked in a starter.
The next OT was Terron Armstead at 75. He is a full on project who is a track athlete.

Had Dallas drafted a Safety in round 2 like Swearinger people would feel better about this draft class right now. But it doesn't mean it would be better in 6 months much less 2 or 3 years.

Let these kids get to camp and we'll see how they do.

If Matt Johnson, Barry Church and Will Allen create a workable Safety corps this team should be OK.

Escobar and Williams are depth guys but they'll play and hopefully a lot. With Miles injury history, Terrence Williams may be a starter. Hanna was valuable last year and Escobar is a far better receiver so we can expect him to play a large role.

Randle will be a major factor.
Holloman should be able to help.

This wasn't a great draft for us early but it was strong throughout with guys that should be able to help in 2013.

 

[Doomsay]

I'll say it again.
I also wanted to see more picks in the trenches, BUT, overall, how does the media pick on the Boys' draft so much when:

1st Round reach (high probability could have gotten him in 2nd), poor value trade with SF, non-blocking TE in 2nd when we have Hanna. These seem to be the most consistent media criticisms.

I would DEARLY like to see a free-agent OT signed still in FA, and the tires kicked at DE/DT here and there

Yes!

 

[jterrell]

Yes, they need an immediate starter on the OLine. They have plenty of projects already on the roster. More late round OL picks wouldn't really help.

Wait you mean 5th round OTs can't be expected to start day 1?

Not sure why people think every draftee is the next Joe Thomas. There were 5 OT that went by pick 20 then there wasn't another til pick 42. Then the next was at 75. That's a pretty good indication of where the immediate starters were taken.

OG? Same basic thing. 3 by pick 20 then not another til pick 65. If pick 65 was a starter why did he make it a full 45 picks?

OC we know was Frederick at 31 then Schwenke at 100plus.

So add it all up. 8 OL by pick 31 then 2 more by 75? wow....

 

[xwalker]

1st Round reach (high probability could have gotten him in 2nd), poor value trade with SF, non-blocking TE in 2nd when we have Hanna. These seem to be the most consistent media criticisms.

Yes!

Like they got their #1 target in 2009 Max Unger? Oops.

Would you prefer Max Unger in 2009 or all of the other players that the Cowboys drafted?

 

[Future]

I don't put too much stock into this kind of thing, but its always nice to see the Commanders do poorly :laugh2:

 

[jterrell]

Like they got their #1 target in 2009 Max Unger? Oops.

Would you prefer Max Unger in 2009 or all of the other players that the Cowboys drafted?

I am with you, the thought Dallas could have gotten Frederick at 47 is fatally flawed.

---But all the experts had him in the 90s...

Yea, many did, but he was the top ranked OC and might be an even better OG prospect. How many experts graded his OG film?

No other OC or OG went for a long time. Teams clearly felt the position was picked clean in round 1. Any team wanting a day 1 starting interior guy was going to tap Frederick like Dallas did. These Wisconsin guys aren't all Hall of Famers but they sure come in ready to play day 1.

No one cares where Levitre, Konz or Unger were ranked now just that we didnt draft them.

 

[visionary]

Like they got their #1 target in 2009 Max Unger? Oops.

Would you prefer Max Unger in 2009 or all of the other players that the Cowboys drafted?

this is a good point
i am glad we got frederick

would have liked to get mroe in the trade down but that is what the market was

i am OK with frederick and williams and hopefully both develop into long term starters for us