So Jerry keeps saying we're going to be different

[CATCH17]

On Offense.


Anyone know what he means by this?

Could it finally be an end to this slow, lethargic style football?

Will we finally make defense play on their heels and go to a quicker paced offense?

Is this why Jerry wants Romo more involved? Because we looked our best last year when we were running the no huddle with Romo directing the offense?

 

[SDCowboy]

It's being rumored/expected that the team is going to be going to a super fast, get the ball out quick offense. Who knows if it will actually change though. One would certainly hope we're going to see a lot of no huddle.

 

[perrykemp]

Last year was a Coryell styled offense.

This year is a Patriots style 2-3 TE offense.

Next year will be something else.

Flavor of the day -- ain't it great!

 

[Miller]

Last year was a Coryell styled offense.

This year is a Patriots style 2-3 TE offense.

Next year will be something else.

Flavor of the day -- ain't it great!

That's my issue...I might as well post this in 3 threads since it keeps coming up

I keep hearing the NE references but we haven't run anything close to what they have run so far. They use their TEs to create match up issues while running their no huddle...teams can't bring in other packages. Last year we REFUSED to run no huddle until we fell behind and I'm not sure if there is a change to do that now. If this was a progression to this style offense, why not start last year and see how it worked. You can't tell me that getting 1 TE all of a sudden puts us on the map to run this now. To me, if we do, it seems more like an ultimatum than something Garrett was progressing to.

 

[CATCH17]

Last year was a Coryell styled offense.

This year is a Patriots style 2-3 TE offense.

Next year will be something else.

Flavor of the day -- ain't it great!

I've always felt like playing with Pace and overwhelming teams with Romo's ability to move around is the way to go.

Plus look at the receiver's we have? They are the greatest route runners out there. But you get the ball in their hands and they can make a play.

So many times our style of play looks like it just kills momentum. (Waiting until the last second to snap the ball)

I really think playing with a faster pace would help this team out so much.

 

[TheCount]

I think it'll mostly be lip service. I don't see much changing. The line simply isn't good enough to get creative and Garrett is still learning on the job. We still don't even know who's calling plays, yet we know what the play style will be?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Romo is going to be involved in the intial game-planing earlier in the week, as opposed to just going over the gameplan at implementation later in the week and giving the thumbs up/thumbs down on concepts. This is going to lend itself to Romo calling plays and audibling ala Peyton. Romo wants to be an NFL offensive coordinator after his playing career is over. The key is you have to have a base offense skillset that is versatile enough to handle anything you audible them into. Motioning Jon Phillips to Joker split really doesn't mean much.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The real issue that concerns me is intellect.

Romo is on a different plane than most of the offense. He sees something and wants to exploit it, but does he have the collective intellect to accomplish that?

The Bears game last year says not really.

So what makes the Pats so smart when it comes to changing plays?

And what makes it difficult for Dallas?

Those are two very important questions when discussing the role of Romo in planning, play calling, and the audible.

 

[Bowdown27]

Seems to me with this draft we will be running more of packers and pats offense. When romo actually called plays at the line we did good. Probably more hurry up offense

 

[DenCWBY]

The real issue that concerns me is intellect.

Romo is on a different plane than most of the offense. He sees something and wants to exploit it, but does he have the collective intellect to accomplish that?

The Bears game last year says not really.

So what makes the Pats so smart when it comes to changing plays?

And what makes it difficult for Dallas?

Those are two very important questions when discussing the role of Romo in planning, play calling, and the audible.

Bingo!!
Either the JG needs to dumb it down for the rest of the offense to understand and execute. Which is what I think he should have done last year when we were struggling with wrong routes, wrong blocking assignments and Romo having to tell everyone where to go instead of focusing on reading the defense while watching the play clock.
Or JG needs another year to teach his strategy and some Rhodes scholars to play on offense to understand his system.
Not all JG's fault. I think JJ just sees the latest and greatest and has to follow along with the "contenders" since he really does not have a football mind of his own.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

They better be different on offense.

Last season guys took stupid penalties & many games Tony had to tell guys where to even line up.

Bunch of knuckleheads.

 

[xwalker]

I think there will be stretches where Romo calls his own plays.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I see an attacking team on both sides of the ball. No more take what the opposition gives you or reacting.

The team appears to be getting smarter and tougher.

 

[Galian Beast]

Changes in defense are more obvious especially with coaching changes.

When Parcells came at first we still ran Zimmers 4-3. But soon after Parcells made the move to the 3-4, and Zimmer was still coaching it. No coach change, but a scheme change. Eventually Zimmer was let go, and Parcells basically ran the defense. When Parcells left we still ran a 3-4 but it was Wade Phillips style of 3-4. Another change. Then when Phillips was let go we brought in Rob Ryan, another different style of 3-4.

The offense on the other hand has essentially been the same since 2007/2008.

We ran an Air Coryell system, I think mostly starting in 2008.

We allowed the offense line to deteriorate since then. And our running game has basically gotten worse since then.

Somehow Garrett kept his job, and was elevated to head coach... (don't ask me how).

That being said that system is being changed this year. I'm not saying we won't run Air Coryell next year, but what we will have is a very different way of doing it from what we have done before. That difference is going to require a lot of involvement from Romo.

Basically we're going to redesign the system around Romo and what makes him successful. You're going to see us try to use elements from the Patriots subpackages.

Ultimately we don't know what we're actually going to see. But don't just assume since Garrett is still here it will be the exact same offense from the previous years.

 

[Wood]

If you want fast paced..tune in during Eagles/Dallas games. Not sure what to expect yet but Brent Celek (Eagles TE) is saying Chip Kelly is going to change the game. Going to one word play calling combined with 'sprint' offense. Will be interesting to see how that unfolds.

 

[Zordon]

Last year was a Coryell styled offense.

This year is a Patriots style 2-3 TE offense.

Next year will be something else.

Flavor of the day -- ain't it great!

That's the worst thing about Jerry. There is no philosphy. That's why people always ask "Who are the Cowboys?" The guy is always picking the flavor of the month. Whether it be his love affair with the Giants way a few years ago or "Wanting linebackers like the Niners"....every year it's something different. Far cry from Tex and Landry when everyone else was copying us.

 

[Frozen700]

I think this year we will play with a little more pace. I feel we will take what the defense gives us, and attack weak areas, even it means over and over.

No more trying to be cute, and calling plays that even if the defense has the right defense for it, maybe just maybe we can fit it in.

I also feel we see more of a vertical attack with Dez, more moving him around ect

 

[Galian Beast]

History of the Dallas Cowboys


2003 - Bill Parcells
4-3 Defense (Zimmer)
Air Coryell (Payton)

2004
Fairbanks-Bullough 3-4 (2 gap 3-4 defense)

2007/2008
Air Coryell (Garrett)
Phillips 3-4 (1 gap 3-4 defense)

2011
Rob Ryan 3-4 defense (Rob Ryan)

2013
Tampa 2 Defense (Kiffin)

The thing those is even though we're running a Tampa 2, you might as well call it a Dallas 2. It's not going to be run the same way it was run in Tampa Bay, and probably not Chicago, Minnesota, or Seattle either.

Different players, different coaches e.t.c.

Similarly the Air Coryell system of Garrett isn't the same as Sean Payton. And the Air Coryell or West Coast hybrid that we may or may not run next year, whatever it is, should have a lot of differences from what we run this year.

 

[Galian Beast]

That's the worst thing about Jerry. There is no philosphy. That's why people always ask "Who are the Cowboys?" The guy is always picking the flavor of the month. Whether it be his love affair with the Giants way a few years ago or "Wanting linebackers like the Niners"....every year it's something different. Far cry from Tex and Landry when everyone else was copying us.

The problem is that we haven't had a lot of success. You better believe a lot of teams copied us in the 90s.

I wouldn't say it's a flavor of the month thing. We've been trying to get a two tight end thing going for quite some. Well before the Patriots did it well. People like to crack on Jerry, but it was Parcells that shifted us to the 3-4. After we had invested so much, Jones did the best to keep it going. It forced us into getting Wade Phillips, and it is why we hired Rob Ryan.

We've had mixed results from it, but what was the boiling point is that the league has shifted so much to 3-4, it is now harder to get 3-4 players. That used to be it's saving grace. Rob Ryan's defense was also too complex for players, which meant that plugging in young players or fresh free agents was difficult. We went with Kiffin because of the success of the Tampa 2, and because it's an easy scheme for players.

 

[ufcrules1]

That's the worst thing about Jerry. There is no philosphy. That's why people always ask "Who are the Cowboys?" The guy is always picking the flavor of the month. Whether it be his love affair with the Giants way a few years ago or "Wanting linebackers like the Niners"....every year it's something different. Far cry from Tex and Landry when everyone else was copying us.

That is an excellent point. It seems like our team has no direction every year. We have lost our identity along the way. We are always trying to emulate some other team. NE isn't successful because of their TE's, they are successful because of their coaching, elite QB, a GM that stay out of the teams day to day affairs, and ingenuity. In order for us to be as successful with our TE's, we need a coach who knows exactly how to utilize them. I'm not sure we have that.