So was Werder and the evil press

[Dave_in-NC]

**** you, i've been a Cowboys fan all my life the fact that i'm not jumping for joy over the team becoming worse somehow makes me a bad fan?

I really hope you like 6-10 seasons cause that's exactly where we're heading and i don't see how any "fan" can be happy enough to gloat about something like that

Dude easy big fella. I didn't say that. I didn't even say you. Some fans of the Cowboys put owens over the team. Just look at whats being said. It was ok to be 9-7 with owens. Hu? It's never ok to be 9-7 in my book.

How do we know we won't be better? We don't until the games are played.
Maybe Jerry has some one in mind that will be helpful in all aspects, the field and the locker room. owens was a problem obviously or Jerry wouldn't have sent him packing. Jerry loves the type of press owens brings, good or bad.

I don't ever say a fan isn't a fan. Except Jordan Taber, god I miss him about now.

 

[Ren]

Dude easy big fella. I didn't say that. I didn't even say you. Some fans of the Cowboys put owens over the team. Just look at whats being said. It was ok to be 9-7 with owens. Hu? It's never ok to be 9-7 in my book.

How do we know we won't be better? We don't until the games are played.
Maybe Jerry has some one in mind that will be helpful in all aspects, the field and the locker room. owens was a problem obviously or Jerry wouldn't have sent him packing. Jerry loves the type of press owens brings, good or bad.

I don't ever say a fan isn't a fan.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Owens with the Cowboys or not is not a reason to celebrate.
This team concerns me. Its been too long and that is the bigger picture for me.

I dont like Jerry and his meddling.


I didnt say you said that Dave(although if I dug enough you probably did and I could find it) lmao

I was commenting on the title of the thread. Werder and the journalists.

Double dog dare ya!

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Ok, good point. But right now I love Jerry. Let me have that for a few minutes. Then I will return to myself.

 

[Alexander]

This is pretty good vindication for those who were saying Stephen was whispering in his father's ear.

 

[superonyx]

none of the running backs matter when we can't run block without the threat of a passing game they'll be real hard to stop..:bang2: Witten will see more coverage then he's ever seen and Roy has proven nothing and don't even get me started on Austin who's caught less NFL passes then his Jersey number. This will be a season full of 2 yard runs on 1st and 2nd an incomplete pass or pick on 3rd then if we're lucky a punt on 4th

but don't let reality come in the way of you celebration and delusions on how good this team is now that we're rebuilding again

So we release a 35 year old receiver and now we are "rebuilding"? Come on get real. I know your feelings are hurt, you want to be mad and hate Jerry and co., but rebuilding? Do you have any knowledge of the NFL at all? Do you really know what it means for a team to be "rebuilding"?

Please admit you are grossly over reacting so you save some face here.

I would hate for everyone to think you have no clue what "rebuilding" means at all.

 

[brickman]

So we release a 35 year old receiver and now we are "rebuilding"? Come on get real. I know your feelings are hurt, you want to be mad and hate Jerry and co., but rebuilding? Do you have any knowledge of the NFL at all? Do you really know what it means for a team to be "rebuilding"?

Please admit you are grossly over reacting so you save some face here.

I would hate for everyone to think you have no clue what "rebuilding" means at all.

:laugh2:

 

[Ren]

So we release a 35 year old receiver and now we are "rebuilding"? Come on get real. I know your feelings are hurt, you want to be mad and hate Jerry and co., but rebuilding? Do you have any knowledge of the NFL at all? Do you really know what it means for a team to be "rebuilding"?

Please admit you are grossly over reacting so you save some face here.

I would hate for everyone to think you have no clue what "rebuilding" means at all.

It's probably going to take 3-4 Commanders type 7-9 seasons before people see it, but it's coming. we're now creating holes in the roster and don't have the ability to fill them.
we're worse off now then last year we're going in the wrong direction.

 

[Control]

Didn't someone here with inside sources say that Tony Romo and Jason Garrett both liked T.O. and wanted him back?

If that's the case, who the heck wants him gone?

I'm asking this question because I honestly don't see it. I remember reading that he was voted a team captain. It doesn't make sense that someone "hardly anyone in the organization wanted back" would get that kind of an honor from his peers.

And his mentoring of young players is well documented. Even Ed Werder said he thinks the vast majority of the Cowboys locker room sided with T.O., but then again, he also said that Owens was going against Romo and Garrett, which apparently isn't true.

 

[Dcz84]

Didn't someone here with inside sources say that Tony Romo and Jason Garrett both liked T.O. and wanted him back?

If that's the case, who the heck wants him gone?

I'm asking this question because I honestly don't see it. I remember reading that he was voted a team captain. It doesn't make sense that someone "hardly anyone in the organization wanted back" would get that kind of an honor from his peers.

And his mentoring of young players is well documented. Even Ed Werder said he thinks the vast majority of the Cowboys locker room sided with T.O., but then again, he also said that Owens was going against Romo and Garrett, which apparently isn't true.

Romo and Garrett wanted him gone he was there scapegoat just like Bill was the defense's scapegoat when he left.
Its a never ending theme with the Dallas Cowboys, blame someone eles and take none of the blame.
Well Romo and Garrett the eye's of Texas are on you now what ya gonna do?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I think Werder embellished and made matters worse.

And Jerry is a dope for allowing this to happen.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm not upset about the move, although I really didn't think it would happen, but I am some what nervous that next year we'll wind up going 6-10 and we'll get a full year of "Oh yeah cutting TO was a brilliant move. It really made us better." type of threads.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I'm not upset about the move, although I really didn't think it would happen, but I am some what nervous that next year we'll wind up going 6-10 and we'll get a full year of "Oh yeah cutting TO was a brilliant move. It really made us better." type of threads.

And it would be the truth.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Some times the media are wrong. But they are almost never wrong in mass, the way they would have had to have been for the "TO to go" stuff to have been incorrect. Besides, Werder surely has more Valley Ranch sources than nearly anyone. He's been covering the team at least since the Johnson days.

All of that is why I felt certain the Owens release was inevitable. And I do think it's the right move. Clearly, things were happening behind the scenes of which were were either unaware or only partially informed. The Cowboys didn't release Owens because of Garrett or Witten or Romo or Carpenter... the Cowboys released Owens because of Owens. Now the team has to begin to repair the damage that surely has been caused.

Unlike some, I'm not "happy." The Cowboys were forced to release a good player because of his attitude. That's no reason to celebrate. But I do think it is a step toward getting this team in a better position to play to its potential.

The thing about Owens: He had a track record. People, including me, wanted to think he had changed. But those of us who are honest must surely acknowledge that, in most things in life, people rarely change much beyond their 30th birthday.

The good news: Owens wasn't the player in 2008 he had been in prior years. This is no longer a superstar -- not in terms of ability.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Bottom line: We have a QB that couldnt get him the ball.

I don't believe a word of that.

 

[LandryFan]

Like Keyshawn said on TV - you never know the real reasons for the release of a player. None of this excuses Werder from his ridiculously bad journalism. Werder, however, would do VERY well with the National Inquirer or TMZ.

The best part of TO being cut is that werder got cut along with him. Wherever TO goes, werder will follow.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Mr. Blue Suit and the others were claiming he was going to be released about 2 weeks ago.

To me, I think when they reported it as FACT it really wasn't the case. I think Jerry has been on the fence up until now.

So yeah, Mr. Blue Suit and the other hacks got it right in the end...but in reality it's pretty apparent that they probably heard from somebody that Jerry was considering releasing Owens and they ran with the story OWENS TO BE CUT!

Even the sun shines on a dog's...



YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The best part of TO being cut is that werder got cut along with him. Wherever TO goes, werder will follow.

If that's true, then I'd be all for the release.

But Mr. Blue Suit will still stick around and will probably target Roy E. Williams and Greg Ellis as his new sources of controversial players in the Cowboys locker room.

There was controversy and distractions in the pre-Owens Parcells era. Hell, the Cowboys were in the midst of a 10 game winning streak in '07 and the local media was largely negative and BSP...err, I mean ESPN did their best to take shots at the team on a weekly basis.

In other words, don't expect the media to change their act.




YAKUZA

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I don't believe a word of that.

TO is already considered one of the best WR's ever.


Romo will never be considered one of the best QB's ever.
Romo is not built for the deep ball. Owens is. Owens can run out and get it. Romo cant really get it to him.


It's Roy Willy time now.

 

[Doomsday101]

TO is already considered one of the best WR's ever.


Romo will never be considered one of the best QB's ever.
Romo is not built for the deep ball. Owens is. Owens can run out and get it. Romo cant really get it to him.


It's Roy Willy time now.

I disagree I think Romo has the talent and yes he can throw the deep ball and can do so on the move as well.