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Doomsday101;2543945 said:
I agree with you and I think there are things Romo needs to work on to improve if he doesn't then this team will continue to come up short.

Yep, you can't say he is all of the problems but at the same time you can not say he is not a problem at all. And at this time the team has so many problems that you might not be able to fix all of them but you should be able to fix some of them.

You can have problems with coaching, scheme, discipline and all of those areas.

You can also break down problems in Offense, Defense and Special teams and each of those units has more than one player in them so it is hard to blame one for all of the problems in those units. But you still have to address the problems with individual positions.
 

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dcfanatic;2543947 said:
Cut him.

We should start Bollinger against the Vikings.

:rolleyes:

Thanks for your healthy contribution as usual.

Right on cue... :hammock:
 

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dcfanatic;2543947 said:
Cut him.

We should start Bollinger against the Vikings.
plus Bollinger completed every pass he threw against the eagles and had no turnovers:D
 

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Doomsday101;2543945 said:
I agree with you and I think there are things Romo needs to work on to improve if he doesn't then this team will continue to come up short.

It really is nearly impossible for a fan, even the most knowledgable fan, to know exactly what the problem was on a particular play. It has appeared, at times, that Cowboys receivers have missed hot reads, leaving Romo nowhere to go with the ball. It also has appeared, at times, that he hasn't been confident a receiver would be in a particular place. But all of those are appearances -- I certainly am not qualified to say this is what has happened.

Romo has his flaws, but on the surface, they appear to be correctable. If they aren't, he will be a disappointment. As a fan, I surely hope that doesn't become the case.
 

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Bottom line IMO: Romo has got to protect the ball, His oline has to protect him better, and his WRs have to help him out in those times where things break down in the pocket. It would also help to have a QB coach not named Wade Wilson.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2543955 said:
Yep, you can't say he is all of the problems but at the same time you can not say he is not a problem at all. And at this time the team has so many problems that you might not be able to fix all of them but you should be able to fix some of them.

You can have problems with coaching, scheme, discipline and all of those areas.

You can also break down problems in Offense, Defense and Special teams and each of those units has more than one player in them so it is hard to blame one for all of the problems in those units. But you still have to address the problems with individual positions.

I fully agree with you. Romo can work on things he can control such as protecting the ball better, throwing it away when he does not have time to find an open man and the heat is coming or taking what is there instead of forcing the issue, but there is not much he can do about things out of his control such as having a defensive line sitting in his lap after 2 steps or WR and or TE running wrong routs or not running clean routs. I know the mindset of many fans and media is it is all on the QB but this is a team sport where the QB relies heavily on those around him for success I don't care who the QB is none can do it alone
 

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Bleu Star;2543962 said:
Bottom line IMO: Romo has got to protect the ball, His oline has to protect him better, and his WRs have to help him out in those times where things break down in the pocket. It would also help to have a QB coach not named Wade Wilson.

I don't think I understand the vitriol thrown Wade Wilson's way.

Tony Romo is a Pro Bowl Quarterback and has been talked about as an MVP Candidate more than a few times.

At what point does he no longer need a QB Coach to coddle him and hold his hand?

If anything, I would blame some of his struggles on Jason Garrett because of his the stale and predictable offense.
 

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shaketiller;2543960 said:
It really is nearly impossible for a fan, even the most knowledgable fan, to know exactly what the problem was on a particular play. It has appeared, at times, that Cowboys receivers have missed hot reads, leaving Romo nowhere to go with the ball. It also has appeared, at times, that he hasn't been confident a receiver would be in a particular place. But all of those are appearances -- I certainly am not qualified to say this is what has happened.

Romo has his flaws, but on the surface, they appear to be correctable. If they aren't, he will be a disappointment. As a fan, I surely hope that doesn't become the case.

Very true, we see end result but seldom do fans know what the play that was acutally call or did the WR run the wrong rout or not. That does not excuse Romo for all mistakes but anyone thinking this is Romo alone does not have a clue as to what they are talking about
 

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Doomsday101;2543967 said:
I fully agree with you. Romo can work on things he can control such as protecting the ball better, throwing it away when he does not have time to find an open man and the heat is coming or taking what is there instead of forcing the issue, but there is not much he can do about things out of his control such as having a defensive line sitting in his lap after 2 steps or WR and or TE running wrong routs or not running clean routs. I know the mindset of many fans and media is it is all on the QB but this is a team sport where the QB relies heavily on those around him for success I don't care who the QB is none can do it alone

So then if you were Romo, would you take a gripe up the chain in the offseason and say get me some ****ing protection? or would you just let things play out? I'm the type of person that will take it up the chain. Just curious.
 

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Doomsday101;2543970 said:
Very true, we see end result but seldom do fans know what the play that was acutally call or did the WR run the wrong rout or not. That does not excuse Romo for all mistakes but anyone thinking this is Romo alone does not have a clue as to what they are talking about

You keep making comments like this.

The Original Poster has made it clear that he isn't trying to bash Tony Romo but wants to have a healthy and constuctive disscussion about his lackluster statistics at the end of the season.

The OP is not even coming close to trying to put it all Tony Romo.

This is exactly how threads get hijacked.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2543969 said:
I don't think I understand the vitriol thrown Wade Wilson's way.

Tony Romo is a Pro Bowl Quarterback and has been talked about as an MVP Candidate more than a few times.

At what point does he no longer need a QB Coach to coddle him and hold his hand?

If anything, I would blame some of his struggles on Jason Garrett because of his the stale and predictable offense.

Most definitely!

I think Wade is just filling a space and accepting a check. I don't think he is doing anything with regard to Romo's development and it's showing. Romo is still technically in the early stages of his "playing" career at this level and could use a little coaching up (IMO). That said, a lot of tihs definitely falls back on the person making the calls and governing the offensive culture. Red is definitely coming up short.
 

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Bleu Star;2543971 said:
So then if you were Romo, would you take a gripe up the chain in the offseason and say get me some ****ing protection? or would you just let things play out? I'm the type of person that will take it up the chain. Just curious.

I think as QB he should have some input but he is not the GM and he is not the HC or OC it is not his call to make but I would hope Jerry, Wade and Jason do listen to input from their QB
 

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Maikeru-sama;2543969 said:
I don't think I understand the vitriol thrown Wade Wilson's way.

There are a lot of us that remember Wade Wilson from his first stint with the Cowboys as QB Coach during which time all of our QBs looked lost and horrible. We remember it took Wade several games into the regular season in 2001 to even IDENTIFY AND CORRECT a mechanical flaw with Quincy Carter adjusting to a pro ball. That right there forever tainted him in my eyes. Wade Wilson is a piece of crap and needs to be sent out on the same bus out of Dallas with Garrett.
 

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Those words will eat at me all offseason.

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Maikeru-sama;2543974 said:
You keep making comments like this.

The Original Poster has made it clear that he isn't trying to bash Tony Romo but wants to have a healthy and constuctive disscussion about his lackluster statistics at the end of the season.

The OP is not even coming close to trying to put it all Tony Romo.

This is exactly how threads get hijacked.

I seen enough people dumping on Romo if you don't like me coming to his defense then too damn bad. My intention is not to hijack the post only to give my virw. Sorry you have a problem with it
 

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Bleu Star;2543971 said:
So then if you were Romo, would you take a gripe up the chain in the offseason and say get me some ****ing protection? or would you just let things play out? I'm the type of person that will take it up the chain. Just curious.

Aikman certainly vented his feelings. He wasn't shy about it. Maybe Romo has as well, and it hasn't become obvious. Of course, there is only so much that can be done, only so many changes that can be made. At some point, Romo will have to deal with any weaknesses that are around him, and he will have to try to overcome them.

If there is a problem with receivers and blockers missing assignments, that should be correctable. Excessive mental mistakes shouldn't be tolerated. If there are physical limitations (Procter), you just have to hope the team finds better players.
 

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Doomsday101;2543984 said:
I seen enough people dumping on Romo if you don't like me coming to his defense then too damn bad. My intention is not to hijack the post only to give my virw. Sorry you have a problem with it

But nobody is dumping on Tony Romo and putting all the blame on him in this thread.

I didn't say I had a problem with you defending Tony Romo, I just don't feel like it is necessary in this thread.

This will only serve to provoke people and make them feel like they can't discussing anything negative about Tony Romo without being made to feel like they are only trying to blame him for everything.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2543990 said:
But nobody is dumping on Tony Romo and putting all the blame on him in this thread.

I didn't say I had a problem with you defending Tony Romo, I just don't feel like it is necessary in this thread.

This will only serve to provoke people and make them feel like they can't discussing anything negative about Tony Romo without being made to feel like they are only trying to blame him for everything.

Then evidently you have not read all the post on this thread. Again if you don't like what I said well I'm sorry but I feel no need to check in with you to see if it is alright that I post my opinion. You have no problem posting yours opinion. If you want to discuss anything I mention fine if you want to tell what to post sorry not going to happen.
 

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Doomsday101;2543979 said:
I think as QB he should have some input but he is not the GM and he is not the HC or OC it is not his call to make but I would hope Jerry, Wade and Jason do listen to input from their QB

I would hope so too. Romo is a major investment. As his GM, Owner, Coach, whatever, I would definitely be receptive to his thoughts. I just hope he cares enough to voice those opinions. I'm sure he does but some of the things he says to the press make me wonder. A man can only take getting pounded for so long before he just mails it in and I would not like to see Romo regress into a David Carr type that becomes so shellshocked from the pounding that he loses sight of the fundamentals like keeping your eyes focused on your read progression downfield. The moment you take your eyes off of the downfield reads a disaster is in the making.
 
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