Something about the way Ellis approached that interview on Sirius ....

[GimmeTheBall!]

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OK, so Roy Williams doesn't feel as if he the correct fit or the defense fits him.
All players at one time or the other probably feel this way during the learning stages of a particular position, new season or new team.

But . . .

The more I think of it the more arrogant and presumptuous Greg Ellis has come off.

Why did Ellis feel compelled to "out" Roy as being uncomfortable?

Why does Ellis feel that he has to blurt out this untidy laundry on worldwide radio?

Does Ellis not know that management would have appreciated him coming to them about his teammate? Or Roy himself approaching management to air his grievances? Maybe he has and maybe this is why he sent his errand boy Ellis to go public?

Does Ellis see himself as an elder statesman? One who reprepresents his fellow players with management? One who feels self-assured by his pay raise last year to become the team's designated voice and who is immune because of stature? One who is allowed his stream of consciousness because, well. . . he's paid his dues, he's a leader, he's recorded a million sacks, blah-blah-blah.

I wonder if the front office might have already phoned or told Ellis that he is not to be meddling in the affairs of other players and the way the team conducts its business or plans its game strategies. Didn't the team take a hardline stance with that defensive player who was drafted and mentioned Tony's liaison with Jessica?

As Ellis ages he becomes more vocal, bitter and insecure. He's not paid to speak up and be the go-to guy for good quotes. So shuddup already.

The time has come for the team to make an example of this kind of prima dona attitude, to let the other players know that even a grizzled player with supposed "stature" should not be airing these grievances in public.

Further, it's time for the team to consider how to unload this aging, bitter "sackmeister" and inject more youth. Let him go run his mouth in Oakland or New orleans or other team and see how far he gets.

 

[theogt]

100% agree. It was pretty shady of Ellis to do this. Perhaps he thought he was helping. He's such a negative, depressing individual.

 

[rickster14]

Ellis should tow the company line and not cause any trouble. Jerry went out on a limb for him and gave him some guaranteed $$ that he would not have gotten anywhere else b/c of his injury.

It's time he show some loyalty and stop being a bitter complainer.

 

[VACowboy]

Despite having the best season of his career in '07, playing linebacker for Wade Philips, Ellis is still unhappy and still running his mouth. WHY??? My guess is, he's run out of stuff to moan about himself so he's griping on behalf of Roy Williams. For whatever reason he wants out of Dallas, so he's doing what he can to make himself a pain in the ***.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Jerry went out on a limb for him and gave him some guaranteed $$ that he would not have gotten anywhere else b/c of his injury.

Exactly! And he bites Jerra's hand in public.
And something else I noticed: He referred to Wade as . . . "Wade."
Does he feel himself to be on a first-name basis, on a par with . . . Wade? Are players doing this now? Would a player refer to man boobs as "Bill" or any other coach by his first name?

Ellis is certainly a puzzle.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

listen fellas....as i have stated before...there are teams out there right now that would give greg a 6 - 8M signing bonus right now....that is a cash infusion he is not going to get in dallas...the only way for him to see that kind of cash is to get out of dallas...the only way he is going to get out of dallas is to make an arse of himself...it's pretty simple if you ask me

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Ok then its settled.


Roy Williams SS to Detroit for Roy Williams WR to Dallas.

 

[trickblue]

the only way he is going to get out of dallas is to make an arse of himself...it's pretty simple if you ask me

That's what I've been saying for a while as well... he's forcing Jerry's hand at the expense of the team...

He's wanting to cash in on a Pro Bowl season...

He's no longer a "good guy" in my book...

 

[links18]

That's just Ellis being Ellis. I don't think what he did was too swift, but maybe Roy was OK with him doing it? Maybe Ellis is acting as Roy's surrogate. Greg already has a reputation as a whiner. Whatever, we know these two guys are disgruntled, but it could be worse, we could have Chad Johnson!

 

[khiladi]

That's what I've been saying for a while as well... he's forcing Jerry's hand at the expense of the team...

He's wanting to cash in on a Pro Bowl season...

He's no longer a "good guy" in my book...

Kind of like Roy cashing in and becoming average on the football field...

 

[billknows]

listen fellas....as i have stated before...there are teams out there right now that would give greg a 6 - 8M signing bonus right now....that is a cash infusion he is not going to get in dallas...the only way for him to see that kind of cash is to get out of dallas...the only way he is going to get out of dallas is to make an arse of himself...it's pretty simple if you ask me

Agreed

 

[khiladi]

So when teammates become vocal about a player like Chad Johnson, it isn't meddling with the affairs of an organization? Is a player only suppose to sing praises in public about a player like Pac-man, because he may benefit the team, but not call out a player whose play is deteriorating and hurting the team.

I don't see Ellis' comments as in any way related to his issue with 'management'.

 

[TNCowboy]

When a guy like Greg Ellis is one of your team leaders, December and January collapses shouldn't come as a big surprise.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

So when teammates become vocal about a player like Chad Johnson, it isn't meddling with the affairs of an organization? Is a player only suppose to sing praises in public about a player like Pac-man, because he may benefit the team, but not call out a player whose play is deteriorating and hurting the team.

I don't see Ellis' comments as in any way related to his issue with 'management'.

Taking it to the appropriate places to complain is called "courtesy."

And I don't care what other players on other teams do.

And if you see nothing wrong with what Ellis (maybe with Roy's acquiensence) then I cannot explain the situation to you.

All you kids are rotten!!!

 

[theebs]

ellis always called parcells Bill. Countless times I heard him.

Ellis is the leader in the locker room of this defense and maybe the team. Whether that is good or bad I dont know, but he is.

I dont have a problem with ellis calling out roy though, I wish he would have just done in in the weight room and not on sirius.

Even if just for the fact that it brings more national media scrutiny and will be viewed as a problem, another problem this team has when we get to july.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I did not hear the interview myself, so it is extremely difficult to make a judgement but soley based on the transcripts, I don't see how Greg Ellis could have thought he was doing Roy Williams a favor.

I don't think his words could have any positive effect.

It serves to isolate Roy Williams more, draw in more detractors and strains the relationship between he and Roy Williams.

However, it was interesting to read.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

ellis always called parcells Bill. Countless times I heard him.

Ellis is the leader in the locker room of this defense and maybe the team. Whether that is good or bad I dont know, but he is.

I dont have a problem with ellis calling out roy though, I wish he would have just done in in the weight room and not on sirius.

Even if just for the fact that it brings more national media scrutiny and will be viewed as a problem, another problem this team has when we get to july.

You see Ellis as a leader.
I see Ware as the leader.
The rest of the Free World sees Zach as the leader.

And I did not see Ellis' actions as calling out Roy. More like calling out the team.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

You see Ellis as a leader.
I see Ware as the leader.
The rest of the Free World sees Zach as the leader.

And I did not see Ellis' actions as calling out Roy. More like calling out the team.

And herein lies the problem, I don't think anyone knows who the leader of this defense is.

I believe this is important because with all facets of life, the group tends to take on the identity and attitude of the leader.

 

[theebs]

You see Ellis as a leader.
I see Ware as the leader.
The rest of the Free World sees Zach as the leader.

And I did not see Ellis' actions as calling out Roy. More like calling out the team.

I dont see ellis as a leader personally, I just feel from what I read and hear he is the leader and will step up and say stuff in the locker room.

Ware is the best player on this team and much like Emmitt Smith he leads with his play, I dont think he is the vocal leader type. I also think bradie james is a leader on this team and a very good player.

Maybe part of the playoff problem here is the lack of that singular guy who can fire up his teammates and get them to follow their lead, the brian dawkins, teddy bruschii, joey porter type.

 

[CATCH17]

All these guys, who want new contracts, end up bad mouthing their team and making all sorts of threats.

Its the nature of Free Agency.

Dont hate the player hate the game.

Ellis may do some whining but he still brings it on Sunday.

If you can root for a criminal then you should be able to root for a guy who wants more money.