Something has to give. (QB Salaries)

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  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Fallacy? it is been happening since FA and the cap has been in place. Guys understand they hit FA 1 time they must cash in and so Dak today may end up being the 2nd highest but yet in 2 years that deal will be surpassed by the time he hits 4 to 5 years of the deal he will be around the 8th and likely lower than that. Guys are not looking at and saying I will take 15th most money knowing damn well they would be vastly underpaid by the time they hit the end of their deals. Again people are treating this like contract are 1 year and the cap never moves, none of this is a fixed scale and with big money coming to the NFL on TV contract which Amazon just signed worth 3 billion dollars they players and the union expect to be paid as such.
     
  2. TexasFrog

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    I’m with this completely.
    Agree completely. RBs used to be the players going to the highest bidder until owners realized injuries and shortened careers were not making that a good investment...except Jerry. There is no way this will keep escalating for QBs unless you are so elite it’s obvious. Sturm wrote an article about paying Dak because it’s market value. Well he’d get taken to the cleaners in real estate. It’s ridiculous to just say “this is the market” and cave
     
  3. kskboys

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    While Jerry definitely overpaid Z and DLaw, he did not give them what they wanted. His contract offer to Dak is very similar to what he gave those guys.
     
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  4. kskboys

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    No one whines about Zeke? Dude.................
     
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  5. Rayman70

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    don't think any of us are saying we are geniuses here lol..just using common sense and what we see with our eyes. Our eyes don't lie. Mensa not required.
     
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  6. Zekeats

    Zekeats theranchsucks

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    None of them are except for the best of the best. Mahomes, Saquan, Garrett Miles, they are the exceptions and the reason for salary caps. And Im not blaming Dak and I'm not blaming Jerry which is why we are still at where we are at with no contact signed. My argument is if you could get a top 3 qb who is healthy as opposed to a top 10-15 qb who is coming off a terrible injury why not do it, especially if the later is going to cost you more $.
     
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  7. erod

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    That was a lie.
     
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  8. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    guess it would depend on who that QB is and any additional cost in terms of draft picks,
     
  9. Verdict

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    Its NOT happening in New England. How are the Patriots doing compared to the rest of the league?
     
  10. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    Has it? I would argue that it has taken a step back this year. These guys who signed big deal and are now either out or on their way out, they are not making the same amount of money on their deals that previous QBs who played out their deals might have. I mean, don't get me wrong, they will go out and find other work and some of them will probably make more big money but just in terms of the contracts they signed, I don't know that they are making more money. A lot of these teams took big cap hits in order to avoid huge salary against the cap. I do wonder if this is the new NFL. I suspect that it is.
     
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  11. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    So wait, what you are saying here is that it was "reported" that he agreed to the highest AAV, at the time, for a duration that would have allowed him to come right back to the table once the TV deal was in place, so that he could get a much bigger contract? Seriously right, how in the world do fans call him greedy?

    o_O
     
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  12. 88sAndHeartbreak

    88sAndHeartbreak Well-Known Member

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    That was reported by every single sports news outlet... unless you know more than they do.
     
  13. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    With Brady gone, last time I checked they were not in post season and benching Cam Newton. Pats will be in QB market and the likelihood of finding another Brady well lets just say that does not happen very often. Brady was with the Pats 20 years and over that time was paid as a top QB, later in his career he was still paid a lot but not top money but Brady was in a completely different situation that 1st time FA players
     
  14. Rayman70

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    very true, but we are talking much higher percentages than that with Watson and dak...its insane.
     
  15. CowboyRoy

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    Its NOT all about the QB. We see that time and time again. At the end of the day, every team with a top 10 QB is going to be paying 35-40 million per year. There will be no advantage. The real trick is what is the GM capable of putting around the QB. That is where the game will be won and lost between teams with top 10 QB's.

    The goal for a football team should be to find a top 10 QB, top 5 if your lucky. Then you pay the guy. Until you have someone better for cheaper, thats where you are at.

    Now obviously there is a limit, but 5 million here or there isnt going to matter in the overall scheme. Most top end QB's are going to break the previous contract. Its actually nice to have a guy like Mahomes that clearly #1 and sets the high side of the market.

    IF for some reason the coaches think the QB isnt worthy of what he wants, then you trade him for as many picks as you can get. Or you can do it after you sign him if you dont like the results.
     
  16. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    Pats sign Dak for 40 million a year no question about it.
     
  17. CowboyRoy

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    As long as the percentage of the salary cap remains consistent it wont matter how high they go.

    Now what will be affected is the benefit of a great young QB on a rookie deal. The higher these salaries get, more a team saves. But again, it all comes down to the ability of the GM to build a great defense WHILE he has a top QB either on a rookie deal or otherwise.
     
  18. CowboyRoy

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    Who won the playoff game when Dak and Wilson played a couple years ago?

    And how about the great Zeke Elliott. Is his 935 yards and 6 TD's worth 15 million? :muttley:
     
  19. Dre11

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    Raymond, I ask how will it destroy the league, the salary cap goes up every year, the league bring in huge money every year. Are the salaries suppose to stop while the league keep making money? what happens to the player's bargained 51-49 share of revenue?
     
  20. Rayman70

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    .how? The pecking order. The tail that wags the dog theory. Your seeing it now more than ever. Its only getting worse. The power the employee will want is equal to the money they think they will command. AT some point they will demand part ownership in their contract or part "GM" say so...Its a very slippery slope.
     
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