Sparano, Garrett, & Ireland

[Hostile]

Yeah, I know, another thread. Sorry about that.

I think we're looking at the possibility they are leaving in the wrong light. I can't speak for everybody who has been around for a long time, but I know that when Tom Landry's assistants started getting hired as Head Coaches I was really proud. I always thought Dan Reeves would be the guy to come back and replace Landry, but an Arkansas oil wildcatter had other plans. Reeves, Ditka, Stallings, Nolan and others got jobs and the team moved on.

In the 90's when our Assistants become hot commodities I felt the same pride. Wannestedt, Turner, Davis, all got the same ops as Jimmy's guys that the previous ones had as Landry's guys.

I feel a sense of pride that Ireland, Garrett, and Sparano are coveted around the NFL, and if they happen to leave (I don't believe all will) then we will find guys to take their places and we will move on.

Good teams do that. Forgive me, but in recent years the New England Patriots have lost Mangini, Crennel, and Weis and they have survived.

If they can, we should be able to. Does that mean I want them to go? No, but I don't mind the speculation at all. It puts this franchise in a good light and sends the signal to any potential free agents and coaches that this is the place to be.

Just another perspective to think about while we chew on our fingernails to balance out the Maalox we're taking.

 

[Big Dakota]

You have to be able to replace personnel. If you can't you don't win. Jerry has struggled in the past but has show a much improved eye in the last 5 years once he set his ego aside.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Our season isn't over yet and I feel this is happening at the wrong time. But I guess jerry needs to know who needs to be replaced so we don't put ourselves in a bad position where we can only get the leftovers of other teams/colleges.

 

[BlueStar II]

Our season isn't over yet and I feel this is happening at the wrong time. But I guess jerry needs to know who needs to be replaced so we don't put ourselves in a bad position where we can only get the leftovers of other teams/colleges.

:starspin I agree about the timing, but it doesn't look as though we can do anything about it unfortunately. I just hope that whomever we bring in to replace them, will do a comparable job...let's hope, eh.

 

[Frosty]

Yeah, I know, another thread. Sorry about that.

I think we're looking at the possibility they are leaving in the wrong light. I can't speak for everybody who has been around for a long time, but I know that when Tom Landry's assistants started getting hired as Head Coaches I was really proud. I always thought Dan Reeves would be the guy to come back and replace Landry, but an Arkansas oil wildcatter had other plans. Reeves, Ditka, Stallings, Nolan and others got jobs and the team moved on.

In the 90's when our Assistants become hot commodities I felt the same pride. Wannestedt, Turner, Davis, all got the same ops as Jimmy's guys that the previous ones had as Landry's guys.

I feel a sense of pride that Ireland, Garrett, and Sparano are coveted around the NFL, and if they happen to leave (I don't believe all will) then we will find guys to take their places and we will move on.

Good teams do that. Forgive me, but in recent years the New England Patriots have lost Mangini, Crennel, and Weis and they have survived.

If they can, we should be able to. Does that mean I want them to go? No, but I don't mind the speculation at all. It puts this franchise in a good light and sends the signal to any potential free agents and coaches that this is the place to be.

Just another perspective to think about while we chew on our fingernails to balance out the Maalox we're taking.

But the Patriots won supebowls with those guys, the Cowboys have not won a playoff game yet. I hope BP gave JJ the blue print, next year could be real ugly

 

[Bill Wooten]

My big concern is that we haven't really done anything yet with these "hot" staff members. It is much easier to let go of your hot OC after you have won a SB or two. Look at NE, they have had turnover, but it was after a system was instilled and success was had.

Right now, if all 3 of these names left, is the team really in position to just keep rolling? I'm not trying to be a naysayer or chicken little, just asking a question. There are a lot of building blocks in place, but the puzzle is not finished and it would be a much more attractive future to have these guys in place for another year or so.

 

[Frosty]

get their understudy ready, give him the keys and tell him to run with it

 

[Hypnotoad]

I can't blame the "hot" staff members for selling their stock as high as it will get. They have a chance to sell out when our team caught a lucky break with a QB and had an amazing season. The are "Parcells" guys and that will get them $$$$ as parcells has a reputation...

The only thing that is alarming is that if the coaches jump ship they probably believe we don't have something special here. And by taking advantage of an unexpected 13-3 season with Parcells name all over it they can make more money then they can if they stuck around and we go 8-8 next year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But the Patriots won supebowls with those guys, the Cowboys have not won a playoff game yet.

A very important point.

 

[rw54]

You can give the water away as long as you have a well. If these three go, I think we are giving away the water and the well. But maybe Wade is better in personnel than I think. I don't like Jerry without a top shelf football guy. This situation makes me think we need a executive type head coach. We can keep him under this system.

 

[Clove]

Yeah, I know, another thread. Sorry about that.

I think we're looking at the possibility they are leaving in the wrong light. I can't speak for everybody who has been around for a long time, but I know that when Tom Landry's assistants started getting hired as Head Coaches I was really proud. I always thought Dan Reeves would be the guy to come back and replace Landry, but an Arkansas oil wildcatter had other plans. Reeves, Ditka, Stallings, Nolan and others got jobs and the team moved on.

In the 90's when our Assistants become hot commodities I felt the same pride. Wannestedt, Turner, Davis, all got the same ops as Jimmy's guys that the previous ones had as Landry's guys.

I feel a sense of pride that Ireland, Garrett, and Sparano are coveted around the NFL, and if they happen to leave (I don't believe all will) then we will find guys to take their places and we will move on.

Good teams do that. Forgive me, but in recent years the New England Patriots have lost Mangini, Crennel, and Weis and they have survived.

If they can, we should be able to. Does that mean I want them to go? No, but I don't mind the speculation at all. It puts this franchise in a good light and sends the signal to any potential free agents and coaches that this is the place to be.

Just another perspective to think about while we chew on our fingernails to balance out the Maalox we're taking.

I just wish we could at least get someothing in return for 1 of them.

 

[dmq]

Make no mistake, talent makes people look good. I want to keep Garrett, but what do you grade his performance the last few games when Romo has looked average and TO has been hurt? I don't know anything about Ireland except our drafts. Our drafts have been good, but it seems like his understudy can do the job. Sparano.... Not sure about him either. My guess is w/ Wade's personality and Jerry's money, who wouldn't want to work for this organization? We will get ourselves a good staff.

 

[TheSkaven]

There is indeed some pride that we can all feel, however if we hit the trifecta (i.e. lose all three) they will be difficult to replace here. This is not a situation of a coach bringing in his philosophy and hiring his guys. Wade inherited Garrett and Sparano. I think that we can afford to lose one, but not both. If we lose both it could just be a step back next year.

 

[Hostile]

There is indeed some pride that we can all feel, however if we hit the trifecta (i.e. lose all three) they will be difficult to replace here. This is not a situation of a coach bringing in his philosophy and hiring his guys. Wade inherited Garrett and Sparano. I think that we can afford to lose one, but not both. If we lose both it could just be a step back next year.

Tom Ciscowski (sp?) will do a good job if we lose Ireland. I believe that.

I still don't believe Garrett is going anywhere. I think he has a deal to be the next HC here. That is the job he wants.

 

[AdamJT13]

If it makes anyone feel better if he leaves, we can queue up the interview with Ireland talking about how great Bobby Carpenter will be as a pass-rusher in the 3-4 that we can plug right into the SOLB position opposite Ware.

 

[Hostile]

If it makes anyone feel better if he leaves, we can queue up the interview with Ireland talking about how great Bobby Carpenter will be as a pass-rusher in the 3-4 that we can plug right into the SOLB position opposite Ware.

True. They all make errors. I think we get too comfortable when things are going good and forget things.

 

[Seven]

Great, and I mean great, post.

Shold've ended with ............Tah-Dah.

 

[Crown Royal]

I almost made this same thread earlier today but was afraid to get into a fire storm about it.

I completely agree - one of the early lessons I learned in business was that no matter how good your team is, you always support an employee or group member's decision to leave and better themselves. It's the moral and just thing to do, and you just have to deal with it. I believe the same thing holds true in the NFL. It is up to those in charge to find other good people to fulfill the duties, as necessary, left vacant by personnel leaving to improve their position. It is not right to block that movement.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Tom Ciscowski (sp?) will do a good job if we lose Ireland. I believe that.

I still don't believe Garrett is going anywhere. I think he has a deal to be the next HC here. That is the job he wants.

Tom Ciskowski, the current assistant director of college scouting for the Dallas Cowboys.

I agree about Garrett.

 

[Frosty]

There is indeed some pride that we can all feel, however if we hit the trifecta (i.e. lose all three) they will be difficult to replace here. This is not a situation of a coach bringing in his philosophy and hiring his guys. Wade inherited Garrett and Sparano. I think that we can afford to lose one, but not both. If we lose both it could just be a step back next year.

I would be more worried about losing TO, someone (coach) has earned his respect (not ROMO) I hope it would be Wade Phillips but if a new coach comes and does not agree with TO it could be the end to a new begining...just like 2006